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News Discussion  » General: Interview: Chris Kramer, SOE

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  Bama1267

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Joined: 8/24/04
Posts: 1829

8/19/06 2:53:02 AM#21
...another game i can scratch off my list.
  Skeltem

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Joined: 2/01/04
Posts: 68

8/19/06 3:14:11 AM#22
What a bag of corporate BS!
 ... and he didn't even sound ashamed.

 Wow and kudos to the corp brainwahers!
I myself would prefer they wouldn't wash some of the intelligence matter along with the self-esteem and sense of shame.

  WoodenDummy

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Joined: 11/08/05
Posts: 210

8/19/06 6:09:48 AM#23

Originally posted by Cymek

I believe the dev attitude at CCP is a model that needs to be followed....they are the antiSOE.



There isn't a day that goes by when I don't think about playing EVE again, JUST because of CCP.

  Rubiade

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8/19/06 6:14:56 AM#24
Chris Kramer:

The company’s mission statement sums it all up: To be the worldwide leader in online entertainment; and to expand our company through the development of high-quality, industry-leading entertainment, software and services, while fostering an environment of empowerment, creativity and commitment.
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If this is the mission of SOE then they have zero understanding of true entertainment.
Entertainment exists and lives from diversity and passion. The passion for the kind of entertainment you offer.
All i can see in this interview are businessmen with dollar marks in their eyes and a dream of might and ruling the gamer world. This makes me shiver.
It is highly important to have other companies on top that feed the same market. Companies whith passioned people who love, know, care about and first of all respect gamers - the customers they do the work for and finallly get payed from.
Beside this i question the quality of their products if they fokus on 365 things. They can grow and expand etc but it WILL cost quality AND ( much more important) customer relation. It is hard to believe that a company that makes such statements is truly interested in its customers.
... i never played SWG and i do not hate SOE.
It is just the way this interview sounded. It was a "We are the champions" wishiwashi statement without any benefit for the readers or any serious information OR any nice words to the gamers.
Poor.
  OssirisWard

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8/19/06 7:12:31 AM#25

"We're looking at turning the world of "MMOs" on its head, and quite possibly throwing that phrase out the window altogether. "

heh heh. After seeing what they did to SWG, boy, he got that statement right. SOE wouldn't know an MMO if it slapped them in the face.

  Brynn

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8/19/06 8:43:25 AM#26

And I repeat:

"our developers are able to spend more time working on core gameplay mechanics and design, which is where we as a company excel."

That's the part that made me snicker. SWG isn't the only reason SOE is so disliked.

  Bissrok

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8/19/06 9:54:09 AM#27
For everyone who thinks we're just whining, and that SOE's only made one or two mistakes, it's much bigger than that. One or two mistakes on a few games we can forgive. They've done nothing but lie and treat us like s**t from the start. And that "little" mistake over at SWG cost a lot of us over a year's worth of work and a sickening amount of money (how many times have you read about someone canceling 7 accounts?). Throw that in with a history of selling incomplete expansion packs and using the profits to fix them and the worst CSR in the history of MMOs, and now you've got a company worth hating.

I was reading the SWG forums yesterday and someone posted one of their CSR tickets. In the response the CSR mentioned several things that aren't even in the game anymore. And to make it worse, it was just cut and pasted from a game website. That's not help. In fact, it makes things worse because instead of looking for a way around the problem were stuck waiting for a response.
  Valowlife

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8/19/06 10:43:35 AM#28

ok  EA is a great company and deserves your respeect theyve been makeing great games for along time sense i can remember no one is perfect 100% of the time but ea games has made great games for and being the best for lord of the rings so if you got negative thoughts keep to yourself EA is way better then soe and might always will be

  Lumster

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Joined: 4/19/06
Posts: 244

8/19/06 10:58:35 AM#29

Actually the Lotrs RTS is just bad.

No innovation and badly optimized. Like all the other EA games........

  Valowlife

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8/19/06 11:15:07 AM#30
Dude ea games have made great games lord of the rings battle for middle earth is not that bad better then star wars empire at war adn another thing lord Ea games have been makeing reat lord of the ring games like the two towers return of the king and even the third age so dont talk smack unless you got something to back it up with and like i said its better then soe and maybe it always willl be
  Lemar

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8/19/06 12:07:19 PM#31


Originally posted by Warlord711
No one at SOE or any other big game company like EA ect. gives a damn f*** about our opinions.


Because no intelligent company would give any thoughts on the opinion of a handful people when their are 1.000.000 of happy customers. You should have learnt, that the hardest thing is, to make it everybody right, didn't you?

So the opinion of some fanboys don't count.


  Salvatoris

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8/19/06 12:13:54 PM#32

Originally posted by Lemar


Originally posted by Warlord711
No one at SOE or any other big game company like EA ect. gives a damn f*** about our opinions.


Because no intelligent company would give any thoughts on the opinion of a handful people when their are 1.000.000 of happy customers. You should have learnt, that the hard thing is, to make it everybody right, didn't you?

So the opinion of some fanboys don't count.



I have no idea what your point is.... and i read your post 3 times.  If you are saying that only a handful of people are unhappy with SOE... then I disagree.  I think a significant portion of this community sees them in an unfavorable light. I personally hate to see that this interview was all sunshine and roses.

Off topic, are those everquest ads on the front page new?

  mehhem

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Sick of the crap on the radio? Try ETN.fm or party107.com

8/19/06 12:24:35 PM#33

Originally posted by Bissrok

Why do people still bother with interviewing those guys? Does anybody out there still believe what these a**holes say?



I don't belive a word they say either.  As a loyal VET of SWG for 2 years I won't play another SOE game for a long time.  And I do think that MMORPG.com should ask them, "Why should SWG vets play another SOE game?  How can anyone trust you". 
  Anofalye

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The enemy is so dumb! They believe that WE are the enemy! - A famous orc commander.

8/19/06 12:35:41 PM#34

Originally posted by Lemar


Originally posted by Warlord711
No one at SOE or any other big game company like EA ect. gives a damn f*** about our opinions.


Because no intelligent company would give any thoughts on the opinion of a handful people when their are 1.000.000 of happy customers. You should have learnt, that the hardest thing is, to make it everybody right, didn't you?

So the opinion of some fanboys don't count.



Holding a pillow and a sheet, closing your eyes, sucking your toes and saying everything is fine doesn't resolve a problematic.

And you are wrong.  SoE does listen to a MINORITY of vocal online players.  They damage their game by visiting websites like FoH and so on.  SoE lack the discerning ability to make the difference between a minority opinion and the majority.  For instance, me I am a hardcore grouper, I TRY to encompass the ideas of the casuals, but I would not claim that I succeed, I TRY however, unlike some other peoples happily enforcing raiding in every game they have.

Basically, SoE listen to the WRONG players, a little minority who is unable to do anything in LIFE and somehow manage to keep SoE believing they are right, that they have the good ideas, which is incredibly flawed and mistaken...

But all this is sooo pointless, BioWare is coming and they doesn't have to listen to players, they know what is FUN and they work hard and they play hard!  Will BioWare be enforcing lame gameplays?  Nope, I don't know anything about their MMO in developpment, but I know them well enough to know that they won't be doing the same enforcing mistakes.  WoW should have break the 10 millions players by now, if you look at the general qualities and everything...but enforcing Raiding and PvP seriouly hinder them and destroy their fanbase in the long term.  Instead of reaching the 10 millions customer, they are LYING about 6 millions current subscribtions, they don't have 1/3 of the 90 millions they should if they have 6 millions subscritions.  Oh well, too bad for them, and great for their competitors! 

- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - René Levesque about the denial NO on the poll to his dream, project and goal. (Free translation)

  WoodenDummy

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Posts: 210

8/19/06 1:22:55 PM#35

Originally posted by Valowlife

ok  EA is a great company and deserves your respeect theyve been makeing great games for along time sense i can remember no one is perfect 100% of the time but ea games has made great games for and being the best for lord of the rings so if you got negative thoughts keep to yourself EA is way better then soe and might always will be


EA made money grinding out sports games year after year after year, they are not a great company.

  Ixiandawn

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Joined: 6/21/06
Posts: 4

8/19/06 2:27:08 PM#36
That was fantastic I havnt laughed so much in ages.  
  Boudewijns

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Posts: 70

8/19/06 2:47:03 PM#37

I appoligize but i mho they realy bleeped up starwars galaxies i left after more then 27 months doing the besti  can and with the so called NGE they realy bleeped the game up and to the devs of swg NO YOU DIDNT MAKE IT MORE STARWARSY FEEL into it i givethe game maximum 2 years and the game is dead if it lives longer then they realy did something illegal

in short words: SOE YOU SUCK BIG TIME

  User Deleted
8/19/06 8:07:43 PM#38

Chris , Smed and a hand few of SOE execs are coming to  "A"ustin TX .  Sept 6 7 and 8th  for a Gaming conference.

Its like waiting for Christmas for me.

  Minimum

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Joined: 7/07/04
Posts: 238

You're just jealous because the voices only speak to me.

8/19/06 8:54:51 PM#39

Originally posted by Lepidus

Originally posted by eagle4x4
That has to be one of the most "softball" interviews I have ever seen.

How bout' asking him some tuff questions, like, " What is the future for SWG?"  and "some gamers are just plain turned off by the SOE brand, how do you plan to earn back their trust ?"





Not every interview we do is about SWG and if you check back to our CES coverage, he already answered questions on games like SWG for us.



While I agree with this, I just wish it didn't end sounding so much like a press release.


  WoodenDummy

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Posts: 210

8/19/06 9:18:25 PM#40

Originally posted by Minimum

Originally posted by Lepidus

Originally posted by eagle4x4
That has to be one of the most "softball" interviews I have ever seen.

How bout' asking him some tuff questions, like, " What is the future for SWG?"  and "some gamers are just plain turned off by the SOE brand, how do you plan to earn back their trust ?"





Not every interview we do is about SWG and if you check back to our CES coverage, he already answered questions on games like SWG for us.



While I agree with this, I just wish it didn't end sounding so much like a press release.



To be fair most interviews ARE a press release, it's just SOEs always SOUND like a press release.  I can just see a guy in a suit with a big white smile whenever I read anything from SOE.

Is my view of you incorrect SOE?  Well whos fault is that?

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