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  khman2274

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OP  7/29/03 11:35:39 AM#1

EA games should make an online version of a game like harry potter. You just go to the school. Then after your seven years there you get to get a job.

 

you will get to pick which of the three schools to go to.

 

Jobs would include: A quidditch player,  An Auror, a worker for the ministry of magic, and more.

 

 

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  rathma

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7/30/03 7:52:44 PM#2

That thought crossed my mind too but it can't work. People like exploring in MMORPG's and most of harry potter takes place in a school, i don't think you can get thousands of players to roleplay in hogwarts. Also, if you were to expand the land alot it wouldn't be reliable to the book and they wouldn't let you do it.



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  Calm

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8/01/03 10:48:25 AM#3

Hmmmmmm

Ok its possible there have been far worse...

Ok lets see xp...

Its a world of magic let the imagination soar with ideas of places to go people to see (no muggles) and that nasty little forest adds for some extra mischeif.  But the problem comes with PvE...most characters are magic users so no real melle no swords armor just robes and a wand.  So you could look at other ways to give xp and even a good game of quidch. 

But if you do have PvE it will be all magic based what could be nice if done right.  Different schools of magic, plus potions.   As for skills and templates thats a hard one....and then you have to worry about players having clone characters...they all do magic. 

Of course you could get creative and have the ones that talk to certain types of animals?  But what purpose what that serve?

Its a good idea just a hells of a lot of thinking about content stuff if they were to ever do this.  And I doubt any PvP....also what audience would they target?  Ignore us older readers and focus on the younger crowd?  That would change the game much istead of dying you just wake up in the hostpital.

But the series already has a few villians and a good main one so Boss type people wouldnt be a problem, but would the end game come to soon?  Its really possible I can think of a place to buy items (that alley) and a very interesting environment...hmmm its hells of possible...really is but possible and done right and even done at all are 3 different things.

  Dark_Vengeance

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8/04/03 7:50:19 AM#4

I have no problem with a Harry Potter MMOG, but why EA??

Let's examine EA's history in the genre:

Ultima Online - proved that a MMOG could be commercially viable. Game still suffers from the same major issues it had at launch (grief play, cheating, economy, poor customer service, etc). Recently published a $30 expansion that made the game practically unplayable for 2 months, and THEN decided to raise their subscription fee. Patches and additions are poorly conceived, and the track record for identifying fundamental design flaws is laughable. Trying too hard to emulate the competition to capture marketshare instead of providing a unique quality product. Could be on the "outs", replaced by a newer MMOG with the Ultima license...the one smart move is their sequel strategy of transitioning existing players without forcing them to start from scratch, which means the new game starts with a hefty base of players that already have exit barriers. Decent, but they have no vision...the game is trying to be too many things to too many people, and so it looks like a different game every 6-12 months.

Majestic - Although not a true MMOG, Majestic is pretty close. An interactive, subscription-based multiplayer online adventure, majestic was a truly innovative (aka novelty) concept. They shut the game down temporarily as a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11/01, and it never recovered. The game officially shut down months later, due to lack of subscriptions...not surprising as they only had a few "missions" done by that time, and were slow to release new ones. Grief play was a major issue as well, where the players who were supposed to be helping each other would direct fellow players to "grief links" (i.e. extreme porn or other notorious areas of the web).

Motor City Online - Again, a fairly interesting concept of a MMOG racer. MCO never met EA's expectations, and shut down after 2 years.

Sims Online - Despite the mainstream awareness of the Sims, and it's huge potential with non-core gamers,  launched in relative obscurity. Touted the first domestic MMOG with potential to break 1,000,000 subscribers, the marketing of the game was extremely weak outside of core gamer demographics. This product was supposed to help bring EA Online out of the red...but at this point, it doesn't look as if that will happen. Subscriptions for TSO are well under expectations...it's not on the chopping block yet, but certainly isn't the Holy Grail that EA hoped for.

I think EA was also involved in Earth and Beyond, IIRC. This is another game that had a weak launch, and has never really gotten off the ground. Ignoring OSI's extremely popular Wing Commander license, E&B was a no-name sci-fi game. This one is hanging in there, but is certainly a niche title, and will never play with the big boys.

So, if you enjoy the Harry Potter license, I'm all for it...but I'd also recommend a different publisher. EA hasn't proven their ability to manage a MMOG in my book...UO is their flagship, and if they could chase ME away (an absolute fanatic about the game, circa 1998-1999), I have doubts about it's chances long-term....both from a design standpoint and a commercial standpoint.

The big thing about the Harry Potter license is that the books, while widely known by parents and some adult readers, are largely read by children. The books and films are wildly popular among kids...who are not the ideal market for an MMOG. Kids must rely on Mom and/or Dad for the computer, the means of paying the subscription, and the play style must be both simplistic for the younger audience, and appeal more to the casual gamer (a 10-year old has much less patience, a low threshold for frustration, and cannot be expected to put in 20+ hours a week on your game). You also open up the issue of non-child players, which opens up huge issues with grief playing adults or child predators/pedophiles.

I'd say HP could make a good CRPG, maybe even a multiplayer RPG, but might not be the best MMOG. It could be a good concept to try on a console, such as the PS2...limit the speech to context menus, make PvP consent-only, etc, and you eliminate a lot of concerns (as well as a lot of community, but you won't get that as much among a younger audience as you do with 20-something to 50-something hardcore gamers).

Just my thoughts.

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  Dark_Mage563

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8/08/03 5:50:23 PM#5

LoL, not a bad idea, and yes, Hogswart IS the main place, but there are a lot of others too. For one thing, the Ministry of Magic, the Forbidden Forest, The Chamber of Secrets could act like a dungeon, and they could extend it a little more. You could risk going to Pivet Drive (aka Muggle Land) and explore, yet you could have the risk of being cause by a muggle, that are NPCs. Than there is Diagon Ally, and they could extend it there, with shops and stuff. Thats all I can think of right now but the world of Harry Potter is pretty big, not just the school. If anyone out there decides to take on this game, congratz to them and hope they suceed.

  Sir-Sven

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8/09/03 9:06:29 PM#6
I agree, EA is about the worst choice.. No offense to EA... anyways, it's a fantastic idea but it is too much of a dream. everyone who likes Harry Potter has their own little image of the books and what not. no game could live up to it. maybe it's just me. i hated the movies too. hehe, sorry to be a bearer of bad opinion.


  Inferno1000

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8/12/03 11:11:43 PM#7
sucks. the concept of harry potter wont draw many players.

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  nolf

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8/26/03 3:47:26 PM#8

I 100% agree with you.  This isn't going to happen for a while, because for the mostpart, the whole target market doesn't have money yet.  I am an adult, and I WOULD pay for this game, and I am waiting on it.  I think that yes, you should go through one of the 3 schools, etc etc, but not make that the bulk of the game.  They should create an entire gaming world for this.  Forests, towns, muggle towns, schools, quidditch fields, etc.  I think it would work really well under the same type of system the SWG is currently working under, with of course, a much better customer relations team than SOE could ever dream of putting together.

This would be the most fun game ever, and when I thought about this while reading Harry Potter, even my WIFE said she'd play (enter shock music).

So bring on the potter!  But I suppose we'll have to wait a good 4 or 5 years til all the kiddie potter fans get jobs.

I really hope that *insert game name here* will be the first game to ever live up to all of its pre-release promises, maintain a manageable hype level and have a clean release. Just don't expect me to hold my breath.

  findnolimit

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12/09/03 5:51:27 PM#9

You know I never though about it but that would be an interesting idea... Maybe I can add a little something. Look, the school thing isn't going to work so how about we cut it out and go straight to the juicy jobs idea. Use the Harry Potter world... but cut to the chase and have people start out as Hogwarts grads out to make something in the wizarding world.... where they can use magic, join orders, visit the locations mentioned in the books (ie go to hogwarts to train, visit the ally to shop, play quidditch(have the world cup as a big event,), and yes (pve) fighting darkwizards or any number of fantasy creatures.... However, you'd run into a lot of problems creating new content; although I guess you could open new area to explore any where in the world... anyway people would want the books brought to life but thats just not a mmorpg to me

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  LethalOmega

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12/10/03 12:13:33 AM#10

wouldn't work.......

just not possible.......

half of the MMORPG community hates spellcasting so there goes half of the possible community.....because as preivously stated there would only be wands and robes.....and magic.......

Half of the MMORPG thinks harry potter is either stupid, boring, or for little kids so there goes another large chunk of possilble players......

So straight forward the target audience would be very small.......

There isn't much room for a world in harry potter, the classes would be very limited, and too much would be focused on hogwarts and school..........

Even if a company were to fill these gaps and put in their own ideas and development, future books would contradict it and turn the true die hard harry potter fans against it......

Harry potter is just simply too linear and too controlled to have a MMORPG made about it......

It would simply not work....the end.....

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  Editedmind

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12/10/03 2:24:40 PM#11
Those who are really into Harry Potter are little kids who I don't think have credit cards and I doubt they would want to spend all their month's pocket money to pretend going to school after coming home from school. =)

  Munki

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12/14/03 10:42:32 PM#12

after school jobs wouldn;t work i dont belive, but once you finished school it did a fancy thing and you beceom a second generation Wich/wizard.. IE you start as a mud blood, but after af ew time throught eh schoola s far as your history goes your pure wizard/witch

as for exp, no need for it, do a skill based system based on classes and skills.

Evens would be easy, there is enough events in the books to last years.

I think it oucld be done, and also be very sucessful, I have put a great deal of though into a harry potter mmropg when i was bored.


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  Elfseen

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2/06/04 12:04:58 PM#13
This idea I think is and o.k. idea. I think this because for many good and bad reasons. Some bad reasons are that everyone would want to be a quidditch player and there would be overcrowded teams or towns. I also think that this is bad because what if everyone went the same proffession and there was only one kind of people in this game. Some good reasons are that I think it would be cool if there were different towns and different teams and if there were amnagers and thing like that. One more thing that is bad is i think that there should be more proffessions. In the end, I think that it would be an o.k. game but it would deffinately be interesting.


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  Elfseen

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2/06/04 12:05:43 PM#14

By the way, What do you mean three schools if there is only Hogwarts??

 

 

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  loxodrome

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2/07/04 3:25:17 AM#15

In the book, Goblet of fire i believe it is, there are 3 schools that are competing... One that leans tward the darker side of magic (name escapes me), Bue  Batton (?sp) a school that seems to based more or image and flash, then there is hogwarts.. Im sure there are many more, there are even some refrences to other around the world including Ireland..

Personly I think the game would not be extreemly popular, but would have enough of a fan base to at least keep a couple servers up and running.. that is assuming of course whom ever developes it has a clue about the HP world.

  Munki

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2/07/04 2:50:07 PM#16

I think it would work, as there are millions of huge harry potter fans, just look at the sucess of the games, there would be many people excited at the prospect of being a student at hogwarts, even if it was a computer game. It would most likely appeal for 10-15 and 30+ since those are the general ages that read harry potter.

Its got a lot of potential, including a carebear friendly pvp system. (just read the book)

I could really see it work, Heck who knows EA might try it.
Id prolly buy it, if just for the free month,


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  Dekron

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2/10/04 8:41:24 PM#17
actually there already is a Harry Potter Online game in development (at least it should be...I read about it nearly 2 years ago when first movie came out and it was in pre-dev stage)

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  ParaTrooper

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2/10/04 8:55:32 PM#18

I read something about a HP mmorpg aswell, while i'm not sure if it was ideas or if someone was creating it i still think it would be a great idea. Hopefully it's crated for an older audience rather than the other HP games, something i could play then

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  Zzulu

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2/11/04 3:46:50 AM#19
HAahahahAHHAa...no. Never. I hate harry.

Heh

  Dekron

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2/11/04 6:30:41 PM#20

Originally posted by Zzulu
HAahahahAHHAa...no. Never. I hate harry.

Heh



lol never said I would look forward to the game...would be as much fun as toon town online lol

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