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Originally posted by HyborianHero

I'm wondering if anyone else besides myself is feeling the dark cloud that is starting to hang over this game? It seems as more tidbits of information is released that AoC is offering nothing new. In fact the game seems to be actually falling behind some of the games currently available.

It seems FunCom has hooked onto the Conan name in order to make some easy cash. But apparently their interest in REH's Hyboria begins and ends there. Conan fans on the AoC forums point out the multitude of areas that FC appear to be simply ignoring. I think this game is going to be an absolute disaster. At least for true Conan and REH fans.

Unfortunately it may live long enough to be the stellar success that Anarchy Online is. And yes I was being sarcastic. As there is certainly enough people who want nothing more then to prove their l33t status to anyone in ear shot in PvP. No doubt to me, that after the initial tide of interest in the release fades, subscriptions will drop off fast and furious.

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You're indicting FC because the AO graphics screw up visual shoulderpads on Opifex..?

I think Anarchy Online is a lot of fun though its kind of an old-style game with a fair bit of grinding and lewt hunting.

No, no, only using that simple example of one of many, many small mistakes. Attention to detail sort of things. If they are anywhere near as callous and indifferent to even the minor bugs/glitches, let alone the many other more major ones..that's all I was trying to illustrate.
I wouldn't go so far as to agree 100% with the OP, but given their track record the last few years, they'd have to pull off something amazing.

Think of it this way, the Arizona Cardnials NFL team has had many players over the years. Some superstars. First round picks. "Superstars". Yet they've had the same owner who's managed to get involved in things to the point the team is a joke, even more than the Cinncinatti Bengals ever were. So do people run out and buy tickets to next season? Yes, they do. Will they get the most of their money and watch their team kick butt? No. They'd have to win a Superbowl to prove people wrong after all these years, and here we have FunCom, the Arizona Cardinals of the MMO arena

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Originally posted by Xpheyel

You're indicting FC because the AO graphics screw up visual shoulderpads on Opifex..?

I think Anarchy Online is a lot of fun though its kind of an old-style game with a fair bit of grinding and lewt hunting.

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Originally posted by nixix

No, no, only using that simple example of one of many, many small mistakes. Attention to detail sort of things. If they are anywhere near as callous and indifferent to even the minor bugs/glitches, let alone the many other more major ones..that's all I was trying to illustrate.
I wouldn't go so far as to agree 100% with the OP, but given their track record the last few years, they'd have to pull off something amazing.

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Are we talking about the same company who released 2 expansions that got awards?

Then again i hope the ney sayers actually check the state of the game pre beta before saying to mutch.

Yeah, the M rating is a double edged sword. 

For those with youngsters around, this one may be a bit iffy.  I know I would't want my kids playing it(or watching me play it); their innocence is stripped quick enough without parents contributing to the issue. 

On the other hand, it may do allot to keep the WoW crowd from infesting it.  I know there are going to be many who find their way over, that's a given.  If the M rating keeps 1 leet away, I'd call it a brilliant game plan.(Not bashing WoW, just the ones who enjoy "Pwning n00bs!"...<pointing my finger at akewlguy>).  For this reason alone I'm gonna give it a shot.  Even if I can only play weekends, it should be fun.

To get back on topic...HH, please come back!  You were right, this game is going to be terrible!  Oh why, why didn't we listen to you?!  The horror...the horror...the horror....

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Originally posted by Radiotree

Yeah, the M rating is a double edged sword. 

For those with youngsters around, this one may be a bit iffy.  I know I would't want my kids playing it(or watching me play it); their innocence is stripped quick enough without parents contributing to the issue. 

On the other hand, it may do allot to keep the WoW crowd from infesting it.  I know there are going to be many who find their way over, that's a given.  If the M rating keeps 1 leet away, I'd call it a brilliant game plan.(Not bashing WoW, just the ones who enjoy "Pwning n00bs!"...<pointing my finger at akewlguy>).  For this reason alone I'm gonna give it a shot.  Even if I can only play weekends, it should be fun.

To get back on topic...HH, please come back!  You were right, this game is going to be terrible!  Oh why, why didn't we listen to you?!  The horror...the horror...the horror....

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Careful what you ask for, maybe HH will be back!

I also agree that for those with children this game might be a bit too violent. Maybe they will have a way to turn off blod/gore?

-Chegg

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Originally posted by nixix

No, no, only using that simple example of one of many, many small mistakes. Attention to detail sort of things. If they are anywhere near as callous and indifferent to even the minor bugs/glitches, let alone the many other more major ones..that's all I was trying to illustrate.
I wouldn't go so far as to agree 100% with the OP, but given their track record the last few years, they'd have to pull off something amazing.

Think of it this way, the Arizona Cardnials NFL team has had many players over the years. Some superstars. First round picks. "Superstars". Yet they've had the same owner who's managed to get involved in things to the point the team is a joke, even more than the Cinncinatti Bengals ever were. So do people run out and buy tickets to next season? Yes, they do. Will they get the most of their money and watch their team kick butt? No. They'd have to win a Superbowl to prove people wrong after all these years, and here we have FunCom, the Arizona Cardinals of the MMO arena

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Originally posted by Xpheyel

You're indicting FC because the AO graphics screw up visual shoulderpads on Opifex..?

I think Anarchy Online is a lot of fun though its kind of an old-style game with a fair bit of grinding and lewt hunting.

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I still play AO occasionally, when this game was released it had bugs from here to high water. But Funcom managed to iron out the game as it progressed. Not ever mmorpg is going to be perfect and you must take the good with the bad, or just simply stop playing it and become a basher to it since the game did'nt meet your criteria. (enter the: forums pt1)

But all in all, AO to me still rocks and will always be one of my favorite sci-fi mmo's to date and still has alot of people involved in the game.

With FC picking up the AoC title, I think alot of people out there are going to be thrilled when this game releases.

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Originally posted by Zorvan
AO is not just popular with the Norwegians, unless I and a few thousand others were moved in our sleep:P And I have great faith in Funcom to make a huge success out of AoC. Am I a Funcom fanboi? No. I realize they have their shortcomings, as do all devs. Am I an AO fan? Absolutely. Funcom turned what started to be the biggest disaster in mmo histoery and completely turned it around into the game it is today and my home away from home. I expect nothing less of AoC, but I will wait until it is out and playable before I fully support it or declare it a failure. Wish everyone could do that instead of formulating unfounded opinions about games that aren't even out yet. When it's out and if it turns out to be garbage, then please feel free to bash it as such. I will probably join you. But until then, any and all opinions of AoC's imminent failure are just that. Opinions.

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Well said Zovan.

Contructive criticism is great, unfounded bashing is not.

-Chegg

Point & Click MMORPG Movement/Combat Interface = Loser

Funcom - Change it or Fail

Nuff Said

this is the only game worth waiting for.

blizzard fanboys will be served whine and cheese at the entrance to wow forums ,

now shush back to cartoon world of childplay

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Originally posted by HyborianHero

I'm wondering if anyone else besides myself is feeling the dark cloud that is starting to hang over this game?

WTF are you talking about the game hasn't even released yet. Doomed, yes Conan is doomed like all MMO's if you read any games forums.  They are all doomed. People have been crying that their game was a failure since UO released.

"It seems as more tidbits of information is released that AoC is offering nothing new."

What would you like to see? Looking at some of its features, I would have to say it is offering many things most MMO's do not have. What specifically are looking for that new or inovative? It is, after all, just another fantasy game. You can only do so much with swords and spells.

Something new would need to be a radical departure from the current market formula, something most of these companies are probably not willing to do.......why? because MMO's have a pretty sucky profit history. There are maybe 3 or 4 worldwide that are making any "real" money.

"In fact the game seems to be actually falling behind some of the games currently available. "

How so?

It seems FunCom has hooked onto the Conan name in order to make some easy cash.

Yes, it is always an easy endevor to make a real fast MMO and throw it out there. Honestly, there are much "easier" ways for a corporation to make "easy" money lol. MMO's are a complete crap shoot. Its amazing anyone is still trying to make them. MMO's are probably one of the WORSE investments a company could make.

 (although the potential is out there to make some very good money, very very few companies ever achieve it. So far only NCSoft with Lineage and Lineage II and Blizzard with WoW are the only ones really with "blockbuster" scale games, everyone else is still dabbling around the couple hundred thousand mark or LOWER with most of them dieing off to a "core following" within a few short years)

 But apparently their interest in REH's Hyboria begins and ends there. Conan fans on the AoC forums point out the multitude of areas that FC appear to be simply ignoring. I think this game is going to be an absolute disaster. At least for true Conan and REH fans.

Oh well, SWG fans feel they got left behind and "real" LOtR fans are crying also.  In fact all these "real" fans always feel like they get "left behind". You know why? Because they expect it to turn out their way. They read to much into the design. Its a game for crying out loud not an alternate lifestyle.

Unfortunately it may live long enough to be the stellar success that Anarchy Online is. And yes I was being sarcastic. As there is certainly enough people who want nothing more then to prove their l33t status to anyone in ear shot in PvP. No doubt to me, that after the initial tide of interest in the release fades, subscriptions will drop off fast and furious.

Whatever.

MMO's have an expected "lifespan" of about 5 years. After 2 or 3 they all go into shrink mode. After 5 technology has completely left the game behind to the hard core followers (UO, AC and EQ for example)

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I don't see your point. You are obviously some sort of Conan fan judging from you avatar and name, so whats the problem? You are trying to rip the game up before it even releases. Have you played it? If you have, you  do realize that Betas are not the true game. They are TEST. What you may believe the game is today may not be the case the next....BECAUSE THEY ARE TESTING IT.

Torak, I think HyborianHero is a lost cause. At this point I feel a bit like feeding the troll, oh well ;)

Also, I am so sick of all the WoW fanbois that come here and proclaim that 'point-and-click' combat/movement will ruin the game. Please READ UP on a game before you criticize it.

Thanks for setting that straight De Valos!

-Cheggelund

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Originally posted by cheggelund

Torak, I think HyborianHero is a lost cause. At this point I feel a bit like feeding the troll, oh well ;)

Also, I am so sick of all the WoW fanbois that come here and proclaim that 'point-and-click' combat/movement will ruin the game. Please READ UP on a game before you criticize it.

Thanks for setting that straight De Valos!

-Cheggelund

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Yeah I see some of his post........I didn't realise he was just a troll. I wasted a big long post on him lol

I have nothing against point and click, I play L2. Its actually easier then w.a.s.d. You just "point and click" lol. (what I do not like is how in some point and clicks the camera needs to be rotated manually, I think FFIX did that) All in all, its simply a matter of taste. if it is good game it will do well.

Wow..How stupid does this poster look now that AoC has taken home 3 major Best of Show awards from E3, beating out some stiff competition.

Dude you're a moron.

AoC is bringing many innovative features to an MMO title, not to mention some spiff ass graphics along with the incredible gameplay elements....Go watch all the Trailers and gameplay footage from E3 2006, and tell me if you saw a better MMO presentation...

I'll save you the trouble - there wasnt one, and thats coming from a Vanguard Fanboy.

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Originally posted by HyborianHero

I'm wondering if anyone else besides myself is feeling the dark cloud that is starting to hang over this game? It seems as more tidbits of information is released that AoC is offering nothing new. In fact the game seems to be actually falling behind some of the games currently available.

It seems FunCom has hooked onto the Conan name in order to make some easy cash. But apparently their interest in REH's Hyboria begins and ends there. Conan fans on the AoC forums point out the multitude of areas that FC appear to be simply ignoring. I think this game is going to be an absolute disaster. At least for true Conan and REH fans.

Unfortunately it may live long enough to be the stellar success that Anarchy Online is. And yes I was being sarcastic. As there is certainly enough people who want nothing more then to prove their l33t status to anyone in ear shot in PvP. No doubt to me, that after the initial tide of interest in the release fades, subscriptions will drop off fast and furious.

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