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Originally posted by Zorvan
AO is not just popular with the Norwegians, unless I and a few thousand others were moved in our sleep:P And I have great faith in Funcom to make a huge success out of AoC. Am I a Funcom fanboi? No. I realize they have their shortcomings, as do all devs. Am I an AO fan? Absolutely. Funcom turned what started to be the biggest disaster in mmo histoery and completely turned it around into the game it is today and my home away from home. I expect nothing less of AoC, but I will wait until it is out and playable before I fully support it or declare it a failure. Wish everyone could do that instead of formulating unfounded opinions about games that aren't even out yet. When it's out and if it turns out to be garbage, then please feel free to bash it as such. I will probably join you. But until then, any and all opinions of AoC's imminent failure are just that. Opinions.

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Well said Zovan.

Contructive criticism is great, unfounded bashing is not.

-Chegg

Point & Click MMORPG Movement/Combat Interface = Loser

Funcom - Change it or Fail

Nuff Said

Shoal,

     Where is it that you've drawn your assumption that Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures uses a point and click movement/combat interface?  You can use your keyboard, WASD or arrow keys to move your avatar, to attack you press 4-9 on the numeric keypad.  Each press causes your avatar to swing their equipped weapon in a specific direction.  You do not have to click on a MOB in order to strike it.  If the Mob is within range and capable of intersecting the weapons arc you will strike it and thus do damage.  No need to target/click a mob at all.  With this system if you have 50 mobs standing in front of you (not likely) and you press 9 you will swing your blade from the upper right, diagonally down to the lower left, just as a human would swing the weapon striking all mobs within the path of the weapon.

this is the only game worth waiting for.

blizzard fanboys will be served whine and cheese at the entrance to wow forums ,

now shush back to cartoon world of childplay

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Originally posted by HyborianHero

I'm wondering if anyone else besides myself is feeling the dark cloud that is starting to hang over this game?

WTF are you talking about the game hasn't even released yet. Doomed, yes Conan is doomed like all MMO's if you read any games forums.  They are all doomed. People have been crying that their game was a failure since UO released.

"It seems as more tidbits of information is released that AoC is offering nothing new."

What would you like to see? Looking at some of its features, I would have to say it is offering many things most MMO's do not have. What specifically are looking for that new or inovative? It is, after all, just another fantasy game. You can only do so much with swords and spells.

Something new would need to be a radical departure from the current market formula, something most of these companies are probably not willing to do.......why? because MMO's have a pretty sucky profit history. There are maybe 3 or 4 worldwide that are making any "real" money.

"In fact the game seems to be actually falling behind some of the games currently available. "

How so?

It seems FunCom has hooked onto the Conan name in order to make some easy cash.

Yes, it is always an easy endevor to make a real fast MMO and throw it out there. Honestly, there are much "easier" ways for a corporation to make "easy" money lol. MMO's are a complete crap shoot. Its amazing anyone is still trying to make them. MMO's are probably one of the WORSE investments a company could make.

 (although the potential is out there to make some very good money, very very few companies ever achieve it. So far only NCSoft with Lineage and Lineage II and Blizzard with WoW are the only ones really with "blockbuster" scale games, everyone else is still dabbling around the couple hundred thousand mark or LOWER with most of them dieing off to a "core following" within a few short years)

 But apparently their interest in REH's Hyboria begins and ends there. Conan fans on the AoC forums point out the multitude of areas that FC appear to be simply ignoring. I think this game is going to be an absolute disaster. At least for true Conan and REH fans.

Oh well, SWG fans feel they got left behind and "real" LOtR fans are crying also.  In fact all these "real" fans always feel like they get "left behind". You know why? Because they expect it to turn out their way. They read to much into the design. Its a game for crying out loud not an alternate lifestyle.

Unfortunately it may live long enough to be the stellar success that Anarchy Online is. And yes I was being sarcastic. As there is certainly enough people who want nothing more then to prove their l33t status to anyone in ear shot in PvP. No doubt to me, that after the initial tide of interest in the release fades, subscriptions will drop off fast and furious.

Whatever.

MMO's have an expected "lifespan" of about 5 years. After 2 or 3 they all go into shrink mode. After 5 technology has completely left the game behind to the hard core followers (UO, AC and EQ for example)

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I don't see your point. You are obviously some sort of Conan fan judging from you avatar and name, so whats the problem? You are trying to rip the game up before it even releases. Have you played it? If you have, you  do realize that Betas are not the true game. They are TEST. What you may believe the game is today may not be the case the next....BECAUSE THEY ARE TESTING IT.

Torak, I think HyborianHero is a lost cause. At this point I feel a bit like feeding the troll, oh well ;)

Also, I am so sick of all the WoW fanbois that come here and proclaim that 'point-and-click' combat/movement will ruin the game. Please READ UP on a game before you criticize it.

Thanks for setting that straight De Valos!

-Cheggelund

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Originally posted by cheggelund

Torak, I think HyborianHero is a lost cause. At this point I feel a bit like feeding the troll, oh well ;)

Also, I am so sick of all the WoW fanbois that come here and proclaim that 'point-and-click' combat/movement will ruin the game. Please READ UP on a game before you criticize it.

Thanks for setting that straight De Valos!

-Cheggelund

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Yeah I see some of his post........I didn't realise he was just a troll. I wasted a big long post on him lol

I have nothing against point and click, I play L2. Its actually easier then w.a.s.d. You just "point and click" lol. (what I do not like is how in some point and clicks the camera needs to be rotated manually, I think FFIX did that) All in all, its simply a matter of taste. if it is good game it will do well.

For what it's worth, I dont think HH is a troll in a traditional sense.  I think he really does believe what he says.... He just can't say what he thinks without being annoying, emotional, or petty.  Too bad really, maybe he could have found at least some sympathy othewise.  Not from me though

Wow..How stupid does this poster look now that AoC has taken home 3 major Best of Show awards from E3, beating out some stiff competition.

Dude you're a moron.

AoC is bringing many innovative features to an MMO title, not to mention some spiff ass graphics along with the incredible gameplay elements....Go watch all the Trailers and gameplay footage from E3 2006, and tell me if you saw a better MMO presentation...

I'll save you the trouble - there wasnt one, and thats coming from a Vanguard Fanboy.

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Originally posted by HyborianHero

I'm wondering if anyone else besides myself is feeling the dark cloud that is starting to hang over this game? It seems as more tidbits of information is released that AoC is offering nothing new. In fact the game seems to be actually falling behind some of the games currently available.

It seems FunCom has hooked onto the Conan name in order to make some easy cash. But apparently their interest in REH's Hyboria begins and ends there. Conan fans on the AoC forums point out the multitude of areas that FC appear to be simply ignoring. I think this game is going to be an absolute disaster. At least for true Conan and REH fans.

Unfortunately it may live long enough to be the stellar success that Anarchy Online is. And yes I was being sarcastic. As there is certainly enough people who want nothing more then to prove their l33t status to anyone in ear shot in PvP. No doubt to me, that after the initial tide of interest in the release fades, subscriptions will drop off fast and furious.

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King carebear? How is there "nothing new" in this title? How is it falling behind others? As a quick look over almost every single title being hyped on this site can tell, then 90% of All upcoming MMOs are clones of World of Warcraft (Vanguard being hyped highly as one, for whatever reason; more pulpy cheese for the masses to revel in I guess) or Lineage 2 clones from NCsoft...

Here we have a title that takes it's creative inspiration from a more "mature", if one can call Conan litterature mature in any other sense of the concept than having explicit sex and violence, source, rather than the usual fairies and elves vs. green men with tusks garbage "we" are all so happy to revel in. That alone is new. On top of that, we have the inclusion of an RTS element, a realtime combat system that in current previews appear to be lightyears ahead of what anyone else has dared do. Ultima Online style combat as breaking edge uberness in WoW and all it's clones is an absurd anakronism that should be done away with. DDO tried, but failed.

Note how above I said creative inspiration? That's right, making a complete copy of a world set down by a depressed and suicidal writer close to 100 years ago, published solely in pulp magazine untill rather recently, and thinking that would be a wonderful and balanced game is an absurdity. Even with more modern and well documented make-believe worlds that would cause no end of problems.

Why? It's this thing called balanced gameplay. While not something anyone has, as of yet anyway, managed to create that on a larger scale than quick-bout FPS games, at least attempting to make a balanced game where you have a relatively varried number of different ways to interact with the game, like fighting or using magic or tradeskilling. If you want a game more closely built to the material it is based upon, you'll have a catastrophy as the world is not ready for anything like that.

We want more or less predictable gameplay with everything set in safe frames so we know everything. Having a more open game world will not happen for many many years. The very idea of more innovative game design for MMOs has been more or less completely abolished by the enourmous (in relation to it's media) success that World of Warcraft is enjoying.

Instead of whining about the straying from a few things in the original litterature, that most players will never have read anyway, who knows some might actually pick it up now, and the fact that the game will involve PvP and not only be a chat interface with pretty graphics,     you should be applauding Funcom for actually bothering to try with another MMO game that dares to be different.

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Originally posted by DaBearman

My problems aren't with the lore in. My problems are with the way their headed with things. The way it's looking this will just be another snorefest from FC like AO is.  They're also making everything revolve around guilds and trying to steer everyone into guilds, so that signals failure to me. The devs there all seem to be of the "we're cooler than Blizz and Mythic" mentality and have let their bloated heads cloud their judgement. If I was a FC investor I'd be making the call to sell my stock asap. This game is going nowhere but out in their "border lands" where hardly anyone will be playing it.

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So your problem with this game is that it's team work orriented? This is a massively multiplayer online game. That "massively" and "multiplayer" part of the name of the genre has to do with playing the game with other people. People who are not egotistical noobs who's only reason for playing the game is to build solo, a character at the highest level with the best equipment possible, gained through leeching on the efforts of a few other people. That kind of person doesn't work in a guild orriented environment, because such an environment involves giving to other people and not only receiving. Guys like you are free to just play the 20 lvl solo part of the game and then never look at the online part. Noone forces you to do that. And honestly, I hope that there'll be as few of your kind as possible in AoC so my game experience won't be ruined. I am sure you're already drooling over joining the bot to raid Tulsa Doom's fortress or something goofy like that...

Yea, some of you may know me as Mastablasta over on the AO forums...  

Good to see ya, Masta! Hail to the mightiest of NT's

im just getting so f****** tired of u and all i got to say is that u sounds more stupid then LEEROY!

What crack are you smoking? AoC is bringing a whole new revolutionary combat system with pvp politics like in SB. What more can you want? If you want more PvE content, just play WoW. If you want real time combat instead of target mob, spam 1,2,3,4 ect ect, then play AoC. A game that actually will require skill is always more fun than just spamming keys...

Sounds to me like it'll be a WoW all over again. The whole, OMG!! this is going to be soooooo awsome! - then once it has come out - Geez! this is really cool! ( acually thinking that this is lame, but there are so many ppl playing it that there has to be something fun. ) Stop leading yourself into another dead end! WoW was so hyped up it was insane... People, don't get caught up in the hype, make your own decisions!

I ain't getting caught up in the hype I just think it could be good and am looking forward to it.

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Originally posted by Romoko
Sounds to me like it'll be a WoW all over again. The whole, OMG!! this is going to be soooooo awsome! - then once it has come out - Geez! this is really cool! ( acually thinking that this is lame, but there are so many ppl playing it that there has to be something fun. ) Stop leading yourself into another dead end! WoW was so hyped up it was insane... People, don't get caught up in the hype, make your own decisions!

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Actually its the 40 man raiding that is killing WoW.....if they released lots of little 5 man dungeons like Dire Maul I think more would still be playing it.

Me thinks a lot of the naysayers posting here are those that are afraid their own chosen favorites (Vanguard, Warhammer Online) are threatened by this potential sleeper hit.

I don't think I need to say more, as the proof WILL come out in the pudding.  I think this game is going to seperate the men from the boys.....literally.

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Originally posted by Romoko
Sounds to me like it'll be a WoW all over again. The whole, OMG!! this is going to be soooooo awsome! - then once it has come out - Geez! this is really cool! ( acually thinking that this is lame, but there are so many ppl playing it that there has to be something fun. ) Stop leading yourself into another dead end! WoW was so hyped up it was insane... People, don't get caught up in the hype, make your own decisions!

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Right because a game with 6.5 million active subs HAS TO SUCK!!!!

How many threads are you going to make about how badly this game sucks? i think it´s going to be great anyway. Now you have 3 threads about the same thing, plz its enough!