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Danielle Vanderlip looked into the Turbine booth to see what was up with their epic, trilogy-based MMORPG.
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5/18/06 5:59:06 PM#2
just curious... why would a non tolkien fan be reporting on a tolkien product... if you had 8 (or so) staff attend E3? other than congrats on a nice article... it seems lord of the rings fans will be pleased :)
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5/18/06 6:47:56 PM#3
Without some PVP aspect, I don't see this game holding my attention very long. Sure it will be fun to go around with your guild of friends doing quests blah blah blah. But, PVP makes your heart race, keeps you on the edge of your seat when your playing. If its open PVP then its even more fun, the sense of friend or foe. Those that played UO before Trammel was introduced will understand what i'm talking about. Though I bet this game will be enjoyable and a nice RPG to play online, its just that we have games like this alreayd, just different settings. After you have done most of the quests and developed your character there really isnt much left to do. Thats where some PVP can further enhance the game experience. I'm not saying I want PVP in LOTR so I can grief etc etc. I'm just saying its nice to also have that as an option from time to time. Crafting , questing, PVP, Housing , the more things you can do in an Online game the better. If you get frustrated in one aspect you can try another. I'm at the point in online gaming where I need that online head to head competition. Now I know not everyone feels this way, i'm just giving you my opinion of where I stand. Yes its LOTR ! We all love that, but will it have the staying power for me personally? I'm not sure. One more note, I'll probably pick this title up and give it a whirl. I passed on DDO and WOW but this does look like a well thoughtout game.
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5/18/06 6:51:51 PM#4
I quit following this one quite some time ago. But from what I've read, it still looks like the next game on my hit list.
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5/18/06 7:32:22 PM#5
Great ^^
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5/18/06 9:23:04 PM#6
According to the official site PvP is going to be in at launch. It however will not be a main focus and will remain consensual. It is also mentioned that it is intended to be part of their "Elder Play". The site has had some serious changes recently.
The CEO of Turbine also said in an interview two months ago that there would be playable mobs or "monster play". The community relations director Calandryll said this was not reliable anymore and PvP is still being worked out. I'm thinking the monster play will be the final choice though.  |
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5/19/06 2:43:32 AM#7
If they had allowed the player to take the role of an evil character in this game, and maybe focused less on intertwining with the Fellowship's path... I would have bought this game almost blindly. But since everybody has to be an elf/dwarf/Light Side Man/hobbit. With the only PvP maybe being a system to duel other players, I see little reason to buy/payfor/follow this game. It's going to be a giant care-bear fest. ______________ |
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5/19/06 2:48:40 AM#8
this article has confirmed for me what i thought. i wont care about this game at all. it is nothing but a single player rpg, but with lots of players. it is world of warcraft on the middle earth. nothing for the player to interact. only quests, and quests and quests. but the storyline is given, no player based economy or politics, no way to play on the bad side, no way to influence on the game world at all. this is not a world were you live and feel free to do what you want. just a place to do some missions. they even show you some places of the world where you can not yet go. you have to wait for the proper mission oh my!!!! why did i start to play EVE? now everything seems a wathered down childish game compared to it |
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5/19/06 3:33:57 AM#9
Haha, word dude. I feel the same way. Ultimately this game looks like... it has an end. WTF kind of an mmorpg is that? You can only cram so much conent into the space that they have alloted themselves, especially with or without getting uber flamed by the LoTR Purists out there (speaking) I really wouldn't mind if they just picked a little touched time like around the Fall of Beriland and gave you some stuff to do around then. It would certaintly feel alot more like impending doom, what with the actual impending doom impending. ______________ |
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5/19/06 4:22:43 AM#10
All you PvP fanatics will be playing Warhammer Online anyway so who cares what you think.
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5/19/06 4:39:37 AM#11
I have to say straight away that I am a Tolkienite. I'm eagerly awaiting the release of this game, and this good article has heightened my anticipation. I was pleased to hear that they have decided to include Tradeksilling. However, I can't see any good reason NOT to include the choice to go evil in this game. Surely, for reasons of balance they should have included the option to play as Uruk Hai, Orcs, Southrons, etc. Yes, I know who wins in the end, but wouldn't it be fun to go on a rampage with a band of Uruk Hai. I can only assume that this is going to come out in a future expansion. As for PvP, well, I'm not a fan of PvP. But, and this is a big but, I can't see this game attracting the sort of numbers that other fantasy games attract without PvP. They must include going evil and PvP in a future enhancement, otherwise this is going to be a niche game for die hard Tolkien fans.
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5/19/06 8:06:26 AM#12
After reading the article my first reaction was "What a complete and utter BS! How would anyone want to play this crap?"
Now, though my feelings towards this game haven't changed a bit, I may put my thoughts in a more civil form: 1. Why should i want to play a story thats already finished? 2. Why did they call this obvious adventure game MMORPG? It seems to be a SP in a multiplayer pelt like DDO. 3. Isnt the witch King of Angmar at the time busy being the chief Nazgûl? 4: Anyone else who wants to hit the very first Hobbit they meet hard? Repeatedly? 5. Instances. 6. They are cowards! They didnt dare antagonize die-hard Tolkien Fans as they didnt dare be more creative with their D&D Licence. Thus, i foresee, it will be close to the ip but a boring boring playing experience. 7. There is a long and rich "history" in Middle-earth. They could have picked any era to have game in. See MERS. They chose to do a spin-off of the movies. In doing so they severely limited their possibilities. I dont like being railroaded through a game and I extremely dont like being railroaded through a MMOG. 8. Meeting the Fellowship characters? WTF? These are the main reasons why i wouldnt want to play this even if they gave me gratis time. I don't see a point to this game. Other reasons are: Turbine and I saw an IG trailer. Looked like DAoC pre Shrouded Isles. Thought I'd share my thoughts. Skeltem |
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5/19/06 9:27:45 AM#13
So true. Most of the posts above me are being dumb. So the game doesn't fit into your idea of a fun MMO, so what. I'm looking forward to WAR a lot but I'll keep an eye on this as well just because it's not like WAR and I don't want every game I play to the be same.
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5/19/06 11:07:12 AM#14
I agree PvP shouldn't be part of Tolkiens world all the characters are heroes, larger than life trying courageously to overcome adversity it is purely a story of good defeating evil, period. Frankly I am really happy that PvP will not be included - the PvPers will stay away from this one and I'm pleased. Perhaps finally there will be a good fantasy MMO on the market where I can role play a character without feeling like the only RPer in the world, big up for Turbine! And great article, gratz. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The angel of death has been abroad throughout the land; you may almost hear the beating of his wings. House of Commons, 23 Feb. 1855 |
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5/19/06 11:17:40 AM#15
Because, while I'm not a Tolkien Fan, I have in fact read all the books several times. I have seen all the movies, several times and I understand what I'm looking at when I sit in front of a game. From their dev journals (if you read them) they say they thought about people being able to play the evil side but they would have had to factionalize and it wouldn't have gone well with the actual storyline. I also asked them about the seemingly closed-ended game since the storyline was set and they assured me they had tons and tons of content and a very large world for people to explore and enjoy. From their own admissions (On their site) they'd like to include PvP of some sort but it won't be open PvP. Yes, anything they do will be consensual. I'm a PvP nut myself but I can understand their logic. The layered instancing I found to actually be a very cool feature. I like that you can affect a change you can experience later on as you progress in the story so that the same can become different. For those looking for a more traditional RPG experience with crafting available, I think it will be a hit. For those that want a more interactive experience with PvP as a core foundation, this isn't it. |
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5/19/06 12:07:30 PM#16
It would make a change, I feel like giving up on RP in MMORPGs.
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5/19/06 12:13:35 PM#17
Yeah your spot on. Just gonna be a RPG with others but no real way to influence anything. You just follow quests. Hell i'll just buy a single player RPG and save the monthly fee. And if i want group play i'll play Neverwinter Nights 1 or 2 and not pay a montly fee. These guys just dont get it. At least SWG had Imperial vs Rebels and some skirmishes. Taking over cities or bases etc. There was a side to pick, this game is just gonna be one sided, whats the point? Wish I never played UO when it came out, now nothing compares. |
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5/19/06 12:54:57 PM#18
I was really looking forward to this game. They had the perfect setting to hold a great game. Then they announced there would be no PvP and no chance to play as Orcs. I seem to remember in the books that "Alliance" factions fought eachother on more than one occasion. Also, there was in-fighting amongst the factions as well. And if you are supposed to be helping the Fellowship along, why not have an option to hinder them as well. Man, they really missed a golden opportunity for content here in my opinion. Sadly, I'll just have to wait for another game that can offer a better version of this game.
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5/19/06 1:58:53 PM#19
Yeah, I can understand the logic behind NOT implementing some sort of PvP between races / factions, but it would have been, for lack of a better word, cool. Also, the layered instancing.... if I understand correctly this was done in Guild Wars as well? (Pre/Post Searing Ascalon) Its too bad that there will be such a hard core crafting system in this game to not support any kind of non PvE content. Ultimately i'm just whining because I wanted to play an Uruk Hai and squash some little hobbit meat sacks. Sigh, maybe in an expansion. ______________ |
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5/19/06 6:53:06 PM#20
I don't have a lot of experience with Guild Wars to comment. Guild Wars didn't capture me in a way an RPG or MMORPG does and so I didn't play very much. What little I played was all instancing of course and from what I gather of Lord of the Rings Online, not everything will be instanced the same way. I'd like to also say that while LotR doesn't excite me in the PvP sense, I feel the same as many others that the RP aspect of MMORPG has been lacking and would love to see if it meets a resurgance with an IP like LotR even without the PvP. I also am somewhat dissapointed at the non-orc play since I've always tended to play on the 'evil' side myself and hobbits make me want to squish them. ;) Like I tend to tell people however, everyone needs to make their own choices about the game that fits them best. No one game can fit every type of gamer and that is a good thing. It means that the market can keep expanding to fit new demographics and perhaps entice more new players into the world of MMOs. At least I'd like to hope so. Take World of Warcraft for instance. While there are many people that like to hate on the game, it did in fact bring in a lot of RTS players and brand new players into the genre. Whether you love or hate the game it has been instrumental in expanding the market. Adding more players into the market is good because it allows the market to keep growing and learning and becoming better for everyone. I hope that makes some sense. I try my best to stay as neutral as I can be when I'm reporting on things and that's also why I felt I'd point out my feelings on Tolkien in general. I didn't want anyone to think I was sold from the start or to think that I hated it from the start. I started off neutral but intrigued. I am now leaning much more toward intrigued if only to see how Turbine ultimately handles the product and to see how RP fairs within it. I think it could become a very rich place indeed even if it doesn't become my ultimate game of choice. In fact I don't think I could point to any one game and say it's 'the' one when I am always trying so many of them though of course there are some that I put more time into than others. ;) I'm just going to keep that information to myself however. |
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