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enkaedu 2/07/06 4:30:00 AM
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Strange the religious wars between proponents of games like WoW and games like Eve. They are reasonably difficult to compare. That said, I do find the my own tastes run toward very deep, very complex games where you can get a sense of meaningful play. Eve does that for me. I spend most of my time in the game doing things - building cottage industries - that the devs never conceived of. Reasonably impossible in other games where the player can not permanently change the environment. But that is not for everyone. In any event, the fact that a three year old game should have such a passionate following to win four MMORPG categories (two for which the game was not originally nominated) is something remarkable. The critics who say that Eve players mobbed the voting may be right - which is exactly the point. |
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drslayer 2/21/06 11:45:09 AM
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Gratz EVE!!!! U SO much derserve it! I have been playing WOW, EQ 2 and mmorpg's like thoose and damm they get borring in the end. Allways trying to lvl up by killing the same beasts over and over again to gain XP, so u can fight even BIGGER monsters over and over again Yea i know it says totaly player freedom on the back on every mmorpg game - to do whatever u wanna etc, but let me tell u all this.. You WILL find it in EVE(!) - totally freedom.! Eve just set the stage, and the players in it gives the show, and the outcome is unknown for everyone incl CCP. They call it a space opera and it is Everything is player controled. So many ways of living in EVE. In other games, its allmost just the race u pick that desides how u wanna play the game and so on. In EVE your actions in-game will do the trick. YOUR actions. The freedom in EVE kidda stund me when i started to play. My way of thinking of player freedom in-game took a hole new meening after a while and still does! And thats why u with ease will be able to find players in-game whos been there for way over 2 years(!). Its just the king of mmorpgs And the PvP part of it stunded me. Big alliances fighting over territory, corporrations in war, pirates (player ones offcause) with bad reputations (like i said - your action in-game will make u who u are and not by some race picking etc), the big political activity going on in game and on web forums where alliances and friends are made, and where foes and wars comes to live etc etc etc etc. Its BIG! And so many ways to do a fight! Its not just 2 ships fighting - u puch the buttom and activate your wepons and sit back and wait. No no no. You have to install the wepons and modules of all kinds to the ship, means the combinations for a ship setup is huge and makes it even more heart pumping when engageing a fight. U never really know whats gonna happen Been playing for 6 mounths now and still(!) learning new aspects of the game. What more can I more say.... PS: The fact that its the only game out there, running on only ONE server, just makes it even more intense. Luckly EVE's map is gigantic. Because afterall.. Its space. |
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dreamaddict 4/29/06 8:12:15 AM
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You can say whatever you want to about EVE I guess, go ahead, poke fun at the graphics (Which will be completely redone after E3), say some dumbass comment like "LOL EVE SUX just autopilot WEEE" OK now I am going to address the autopilot/skill issue here. First of all the galaxy is BIG. On the plus side there are lots of places to make bases, set up shop, find deals, fight wars, etc. There are serious player-driven alliances that control large parts of the galaxy that fight real wars with real economic losses. So it actually MEANS SOMETHING when you decide to kick someone's ass. Once again, the operative word here is MEANING. When you are playing with actual stakes of hard-earned time and money on the line, that win feeling is Priceless. Personally, that alone is enough of a sacrifice worth making, to me at least. I'll take 6 minutes to get where I'm going if it means that I actually play a game in a truly epic setting. Once again, just me. Plus it's nice to have time to make tea and a sandwich before you get there and start shooting people. And as for the skills, bitch all you want, but it's elegant for these reasons: 1. Casual players can still be competitive. If you actually have Real Life engagements, you can train a skill that takes 5 or 6 days while you spend time with your family for Thanksgiving or Christmas and you can still improve the whole time you are gone. Besides the real competitive edge is in HOW you play your skills and ship, not how many skill points you have. 2. NO one is all powerful in EVE. No artificial classes, no artificial level structure. Power in EVE is about money and friends, not just skills. So if you have money and friends I guess you are powerful, but you can't powerlevel money and friends, you have to earn it. And like many people said, even if you have the uber ship with the uber skills, you can still lose it all, there are always forces in EVE that can and will destroy you if you bite off more than you can chew. Hell the largest ship currently in the game, the Titan class, one of those just got blown up a while back. Most people who bitch about the ship fitting system or the skill system are looking for a PWNMOBILE that doesn't exist in Eve. GOD BLESS. Since you can Easily make a viable PvP/pirate character in about a month (which is about average for most 'regular' MMO's), the only advantage people have who have years of skills trained is that they have more options for making money. I.E. after about 6 months of combat training, you can probably start specializing in another profession. If you really want to gank people in Eve it's not that hard to overcome the skill system. People who criticize it have never really tried to be successful in game with it, and again, say what you like, but you haven't. 3. Here's the best part: Eve does a fantastic job of weeding out people who don't belong there in the first place. If you are the kind of person who is so shallow as to be turned off by the "lame" graphics, or the kind of person who just has to be better than everyone so they can cause havoc and be a dick, or the kind of person with no patience or appreciation for the greater and subtler currents of the game, great. We probably don't want you there anyhow. Talk all the smack you want to about the game, the more smack you talk, the less you should be there. In the end, griefers and annoying assholes get weeded out, quitting, unappreciative of the beauty of the system. Now autopilot isn't so bad anyhow, because when you are bored, you have great people to chat with, and no spam. Really 40 minutes goes by pretty fast when you have good conversation. Reason 3 alone in my opinion pretty much makes up for having to wait to travel long distances. OK there are pretty much all of my main points as to why I love Eve, and why many fans probably do as well. It's not a game for every one, GOD BLESS. The people that it is for truly appreciate it, and I applaud CCP for at least having the balls to even try a project like this, which teeters on the edge of mass appeal as it is. Now let's see if this guy here really needs to play the game. Ships of the same type all are exactly identical (cept for their weapon outfit), the objects you refer to are all the same as well. Have a good and honest look at it, it really is nothing special. Ow and your pilot... A whopping static JPG Shallow. Hahahaha, EvE isnt a long grind? How long does it take to match old time players their skill tree? 2 Years? 3 Years? Ow wait you can never catch up to them.... EvE has an impossible grind even... It's not the size of the boat, or the number of skill points, it's the skill of the skipper, friend. But then again I fully understand you struggling with it since there are only a handfull of quests in EvE (sure you can do them 1000-s of times again with a very slight modification to it and bookmark the location/hit autopilot/go watch TV for 20 minutes till you arrive/do the same stuff you allready did a million of times... etc...). Autopilot aside, do the same stuff you already did a million times makes Eve worse than other standard MMO's because...? I don't get it, I've played plenty of other MMO's, and you still have to do the same thing a million times, that's pretty much a standard trait of online RPG's. Wahahahaaha, twice a day and you are calling me the carebear.... OMFG im dieing from laughter here. PvP in my book is action whenever I want it, plenty of it, from solo to zerg, it certainly isnt hanging for 3 hours near a gateway screaming from boredom and frustration before you can actually engage someone. Attention span is too short. Face it, there are a lot of people to kill in Eve, and more ways to do it than gate camp. Just fly out into the low-sec red systems and see how far you get before you find a fight. And PvP in your book sounds like "playing Counterstrike", which, you are more than welcome to do. Hell EvE players defend CCP over downtime instead of screaming for the uptime they deserve and pay for, that alone says enough. Period. CCP honestly works hard to make Eve as good as they can make it. They aren't just out to get your money. They care about their fanbase. Their project is of unprecedented size and scope, and they actually pull it off. On the whole their downtime is no worse than any other game I've played, where the servers have to go down regularly for maintenance. If you really have to play 24/7 then you have a Problem friend. If I wanted to play a game with 6 million of you I'd be playin WoW. And I will NEVER be playing WoW. |
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Funjifore 4/29/06 3:11:13 PM
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This goes for people who LIKE eve as well. keyword here is RESPECT. make people think, dont incense them with mindless accusations. it makes me cry and again, im not pointing fingers at EVERYONE in this thread. many of you have very good posts one way or the other |
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IseeSugar42 5/28/06 12:51:37 AM
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Originally posted by hooby thats the exact point i wanted to make. oddly enough i think im older than WoW players and im able to see this just because YOU like it doesnt mean its the best... |
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. And in the same time, u dont have to fear and think a 2 year old veteran can waste u any moment. In a indrustrial ship, everyone is weak...
And when it comes to fights between full fleets in a all out war, u cant help yourself for hitting the "print screen" screentake button 
I even heard they wanna have a brand new graphic engine up and running this year(!) Right now its amazing and a eyeballer sometimes. With a new one i cant even imagine 
Eve is made for a specific audience. you may respectfully disagree woth someone, but seriously, DONT RAT ON THE GAME. all it does is make you look like a fool. try rewording some stuff, those who rat (you know who you are), and more people will listen :) i play eve, love the game, think it deserves every reward it got. and most of the posts ive seen that disagree are totally disrespectful, veiling accusations and name calling. i havent been the epitome of respect myself, but at least i dont peersonnally attack someone or make accusations that have no ground.
these posts of which i speak dont make me think at all about whether you are right or not. they make me want to punch the person's face in. 