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Originally posted by rubydragon5
"this game stinks, dont play it"  " this game is awesome play it"

I am so sick of the hype thats imposed onto us that tells us what game to play because everyone else plays or doesnt play it.

Since when the hell does what other people tell us to do affect what we do and what we want to play?

Im taking charge saying screw the haters and trolls telling me what I should and shouldnt be playing.

Maybe thats why most of us cant find a good game, we listen to the "majority"

Be honest how many time have atleast most of you been about to try a game and read bad reviews by a few people and never played it for that one reaon.

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I say the "Don't play it" "Play this!" isn't the perfect message to communicate.

But I'd gladly go for "I greatly recommend this!" (surrounded or preferably preceded by in-depth information about the reviewer's experience). Those who write reviews don't impose upon you, as the reviews generally just wait passively to be read. When you read them, you allow them to influence you, so honest reviews taking in all aspects would be neat - and they do exist too, I believe.

What do I think this site is about?

• Community: We're a bunch of gamers, and also developers. Together.
• News / Advertising: We get some info off the features, reviews, and forum announcements. As well as the plain ads, though those are the subject of much debate.
• Discussion / ideas and opinions: What is your favourite game? What does the gaming world miss today? Is the original Ultima the only thing that can save the world?

And... Don't pick up this comment: Do girls play mmorpgs? (This is in reference to an astoundingly popular thread, so if you wish to discuss it - don't do it here)

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Originally posted by rubydragon5
Be honest how many time have atleast most of you been about to try a game and read bad reviews by a few people and never played it for that one reaon.

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Usually when a lot of players say one specific thing about one specific game, I tend to believe them (considering it's an overwhelming response of the masses) and I will think about buying that game more carefully.

The Hype-Meter is a strong tool for both the players and the DEVs of the said MMO being reviewed.  It gives the players a place to vent their frustration or sing their praise and it gives the DEVs an "outside" world opinion about how the game is being viewed thus far.

When it comes to a MMO already out on the market, the same rule applies. DEVs can get a better grasp (an outside the box if you will) and look of their product versus looking on their own official forums (which may or may not be heavily moderated to edit the negative responses of the fanbase ) and so forth

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Originally posted by rubydragon5
They are interesting to read. And I thought forums here were meant for advertisement, Not persuading people what to play.

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Arent thoose two things exactly the same?

Anyhow, I usually listen to the voice of reason.

"This games suxxor" or "This game kicks ass", are posts I usually do not even read.

Even among the juvenile outbursts and less intelligent posts you can find people posting thoughts and reasons why you should or why you should not, in a way that makes sense.

As Enigma said, if there is an overwhelming majority both screaming and making intelligent posts, be it pro or con, chances are I will feel pretty much the same way.

I trust 50 player reviews more than I trust 1 PC Gamer or 100 or even 1,000,000 Mag/TV/etc. reviews.

Ppl are unbiased and they are not getting anything for telling whether they hate or love a game or product. When I buy stuff from new egg, I look at the reviews first (after the specs).

People are just as biased as any video game reviewer. What I like to study is the general trend. If a lot of people say the game is crap, then it's probably not a good game. But if a lot of people say it's a good game with a few dissenters here and there, it's probably a good game.

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Originally posted by rubydragon5


Be honest how many time have atleast most of you been about to try a game and read bad reviews by a few people and never played it for that one reaon.

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The only reviews I trust are from the fellas who work the shelves at CompUSA, EB, or the other retailers.

These are guys and gals who are fanatical about games.  After all, what do you think they do in the store, when they have done all their tasks for the day, and nobody is browsing?

Highly experienced in many cases, with many different types.  They want me to leave happy, so that I come back.

They have the knowledge that sometimes I can't get from the producers, or the "independent media."  They have no agenda, they get paid by the hour.  For sure, tastes may vary.  And you can never rely on them 100%.  But I have to admit, I can get more honesty out of them, than a lot of other sources.

And that, my friends, is exactly why the MMO producers are trying to take EB, CompUSA, and all the other retailers out of the game, and go straight to digital download only.  They can't lay a turd in the asiles of CompUSA, and have the employees not smell the smell.

But when all the info you have at the time of purchase comes from them, and their cronies on the web, they can polish the turd really nice.  That is, until we fork over our credit card numbers,  launch it, and smell it for what it is, with no chance for a refund.

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Originally posted by SnaKey

Ppl are unbiased and they are not getting anything for telling whether they hate or love a game or product.

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Total, unequivocal bull****. People are nothing but biased. They flame games that compete with 'their' game and will flame anyone who flames 'their' game. They don't get anything for telling it? Untrue. They get a kick out of knowing other people are reading the words they write, and some of them get an even bigger kick just out of knowing they have pissed someone off.

Back in the day, some asshats said that Everquest was "gay" and that it was nothing like UO and that it sucked blah blah blah. I didn't bother playing EQ based on several opinions like this, and that is the LAST time I ever listened to a forum dwellers review. Everquest ended up being my favorite game of all time and I missed out on the release and the first 2 years of it because of some bedwetter at MMORPG.com.

Trust no one but yourself.

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Originally posted by anarchyart

Trust no one but yourself.

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Fair enough.  But what if I don't have enough info?

These things cost money.  Money that could be spent on something else that is better.  But where are we to go to get better information?

Free trials can be misleading.  Take SWG today for example.  The station is pretty well done, but you can't get into the world to find out what you are subscribing for, until you sub.

Firsthand knowledge is best, but if we can't get firsthand knowledge without paying money, that really doesn't help solve the problem.  We don't want to waste time and money, by wasting time and money, trying to figure out whether the time and money was indeed wasted, or not.  That's what these hacks and scammers in the MMO companies WANT us to do.

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Originally posted by anarchyart
Back in the day, some asshats said that Everquest was "gay" and that it was nothing like UO and that it sucked blah blah blah. I didn't bother playing EQ based on several opinions like this, and that is the LAST time I ever listened to a forum dwellers review. Everquest ended up being my favorite game of all time and I missed out on the release and the first 2 years of it because of some bedwetter at MMORPG.com.
Trust no one but yourself.

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Well there's your problem; you paid attention to content-free 'reviews' of games. I've found that it's pretty much always safe to completely ignore the opinion of anyone who says that a game is 'gay' unless they clearly mean that it involves homosexuals in some way, for example. Anytime someome just tosses a few negative words at a game, and especially if all they can say is 'it's not exactly like this other game I played', there's no reason to give their opinion significant weight either.

Snakey and I may have slightly different views on EVE, for example, but if you read what both of us say we like or don't like about it then you'll get a very good picture of whether the game will appeal to you.