Intrestingly enough bestbuy also has a limited supply of the Starter Kit... However they have something new coming out on March 23 2006 (tomrrow). Its one of sony's all station pass kits. It includes all their games including SWG. This might be why the stocks are gone..

Here is the link to bestbuy, it should be the second item listed.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=CY2CJH1DWJYBFKC4D3EVAFY?id=cat12085&type=page&sc=ALL&qs=star+wars+starter&cp=1&sp=Relevance&mipp=25&uq=Star+wars+starter&_requestid=46585

Hopefully all these rumors about SWG going to bioware are true.

Xcathdra

I initially thought it was due to the current 'unpopularity' of the game, but have had real probs trying to buy SWG TTE in the UK. All game stores I've tried all have it out of stock and most Internet sites based in UK too...will be interesting to find out if it is being repackaged as a total SOE experience or 'anything else'....

...though you can download the free trial and addons from SOE online!

I love these conspiracies....

I'm sorry I'm calling BS on this "rumor"...

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Originally posted by rkabyrne
He said he received a pull order from home office on a total of 4 SKUs, to be replaced by a brand new SKU effective 06/01/2006.  I asked him what the title was of this new SKU.  He said it was "LucasArts - Star Wars Galaxies" and it was indeed a brand new SKU according to the digits he was seeing.  The retail price for the new SKU was $59.99.  The SKUs that were pulled were The Starter Pack, The Total Experience, RotW, and ToOW.  I commented that the last two had not been around for a while, and he said the reorder was set to zero a while back, but not recalled until now.

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Um, ToOW was never released to retail and was digital download only. How would you "manager friend" have any clue about it unless you just made that up? No sku would be generated by a brick and mortar company unless they had the physical product in their company. Furthermore, RotW was also never an induvidual sku as it was packaged with the Total Experience box set.

Wal-mart would have nothing to do with a digital download released only by SOE or Lucas Arts. I don't mean to ruin anyone's fun as I miss the old system(s) too... but damn SWG players need to stop falling for this crap.

Bioware COULD have a working version of Pre-CU on a server working by tomorrow. All that crap SOE flung out about not being able to do it is just that, crap. I'm giving them the credit of being even partially intelligent half mole people software developers (SOE). If they are, they have a very detailed, very concise original code structure from every publish since the launch of the game. It would seriously be the click of a few keystrokes to dump a version of this code onto a server. No DB support, everybody'd be starting fresh, but at this point, I think even Bioware knows nobody cares. I'd start over with a smile. SOE really insulted all of our intelligence with the whole "well we can't technically roll-back, very complicated technical mumbo jumbo, you wouldn't understand". Ummm, thanks SOE, but I'll judge that for myself. And from what I see they are grossly incompetent in every area of development. Yes, it would be hard to rollback with everyone's character and all expansions. But I'm pretty sure that I speak for everybody when I say I don't care if they convert all that crap in the short term.............take your time, fix it, make it work, then put it back in. Just give us back the game we paid for.

Bioware COULD have a working version of Pre-CU on a server working by tomorrow. All that crap SOE flung out about not being able to do it is just that, crap. I'm giving them the credit of being even partially intelligent half mole people software developers (SOE). If they are, they have a very detailed, very concise original code structure from every publish since the launch of the game. It would seriously be the click of a few keystrokes to dump a version of this code onto a server. No DB support, everybody'd be starting fresh, but at this point, I think even Bioware knows nobody cares. I'd start over with a smile. SOE really insulted all of our intelligence with the whole "well we can't technically roll-back, very complicated technical mumbo jumbo, you wouldn't understand". Ummm, thanks SOE, but I'll judge that for myself. And from what I see they are grossly incompetent in every area of development. Yes, it would be hard to rollback with everyone's character and all expansions. But I'm pretty sure that I speak for everybody when I say I don't care if they convert all that crap in the short term.............take your time, fix it, make it work, then put it back in. Just give us back the game we paid for.

That would be key right there. IF Bioware were to have the new SWG (crosses fingers and puts on tin foil hat) I would rather they take their time fixing all the crap $OE screwed up and pushing out a quality product.

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Originally posted by OSYYRUS
Bioware COULD have a working version of Pre-CU on a server working by tomorrow. All that crap SOE flung out about not being able to do it is just that, crap. I'm giving them the credit of being even partially intelligent half mole people software developers (SOE). If they are, they have a very detailed, very concise original code structure from every publish since the launch of the game. It would seriously be the click of a few keystrokes to dump a version of this code onto a server. No DB support, everybody'd be starting fresh, but at this point, I think even Bioware knows nobody cares. I'd start over with a smile. SOE really insulted all of our intelligence with the whole "well we can't technically roll-back, very complicated technical mumbo jumbo, you wouldn't understand". Ummm, thanks SOE, but I'll judge that for myself. And from what I see they are grossly incompetent in every area of development. Yes, it would be hard to rollback with everyone's character and all expansions. But I'm pretty sure that I speak for everybody when I say I don't care if they convert all that crap in the short term.............take your time, fix it, make it work, then put it back in. Just give us back the game we paid for.

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For once I think they might have been telling the truth. LA wouldn't let them because they had already planned to give the game to someone else.
One can hope.

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Originally posted by OSYYRUS

Bioware COULD have a working version of Pre-CU on a server working by tomorrow. All that crap SOE flung out about not being able to do it is just that, crap. I'm giving them the credit of being even partially intelligent half mole people software developers (SOE). If they are, they have a very detailed, very concise original code structure from every publish since the launch of the game. It would seriously be the click of a few keystrokes to dump a version of this code onto a server. No DB support, everybody'd be starting fresh, but at this point, I think even Bioware knows nobody cares. I'd start over with a smile. SOE really insulted all of our intelligence with the whole "well we can't technically roll-back, very complicated technical mumbo jumbo, you wouldn't understand". Ummm, thanks SOE, but I'll judge that for myself. And from what I see they are grossly incompetent in every area of development. Yes, it would be hard to rollback with everyone's character and all expansions. But I'm pretty sure that I speak for everybody when I say I don't care if they convert all that crap in the short term.............take your time, fix it, make it work, then put it back in. Just give us back the game we paid for.

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Originally posted by Mordah

 

I wiped and then reinstalled SWG not too long ago using the original discs I purchased at launch.  Naturally I had to download a few hours of stuff before I could log on, but I found it interesting that the game basically installed every patch from 1 to 27 and you could actually watch it installing each of them.  I'm no tech guy but if the data is already sectioned like that couldn't they just patch in the first 8 publishes and stop right there?  Wouldn't that then be a pre-CU game they could use to build on and go forward with?

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Originally posted by PepiDeto

No because that is only for the client side.  The servers which actually run the game are in the POS NGE mode.  Just because your computer had patches 1-8 on it doesn't mean that would be the game u play.  It would be whatever is on the servers which is the NGE.

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The all station pass that best buy has listed is $39.99 not $59.99, although I guess it is poissible there might of been a price change or gaffe, provided they are indeed the same items. But as someone posted above TooW was never realesed in store, jsut as a digital download. Why would you "pay" for that in store, then "pay" again when you downloaded it? I think  $OE would be in a little bit of trouble if that is what they were doing (though I certainly would not put it past them).

Also for those people saying Bioware stated they would never take on anothers IP. There is a calrification on thier boards about this, and they stated that "comment" was before they started on the superdupersecret MMO..

Xcathdra

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Originally posted by Mordah

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Originally posted by PepiDeto

No because that is only for the client side.  The servers which actually run the game are in the POS NGE mode.  Just because your computer had patches 1-8 on it doesn't mean that would be the game u play.  It would be whatever is on the servers which is the NGE.

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I kinda figured there was more to it than that, but what about all these guys saying they are building emulators?  If a bunch of guys can put something together in their garage couldn't a bunch of smart computer guys like Bioware do it too?

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Originally posted by Rewd

I'm sorry I'm calling BS on this "rumor"...

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Originally posted by rkabyrne
He said he received a pull order from home office on a total of 4 SKUs, to be replaced by a brand new SKU effective 06/01/2006.  I asked him what the title was of this new SKU.  He said it was "LucasArts - Star Wars Galaxies" and it was indeed a brand new SKU according to the digits he was seeing.  The retail price for the new SKU was $59.99.  The SKUs that were pulled were The Starter Pack, The Total Experience, RotW, and ToOW.  I commented that the last two had not been around for a while, and he said the reorder was set to zero a while back, but not recalled until now.

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Um, ToOW was never released to retail and was digital download only. How would you "manager friend" have any clue about it unless you just made that up? No sku would be generated by a brick and mortar company unless they had the physical product in their company. Furthermore, RotW was also never an induvidual sku as it was packaged with the Total Experience box set.

Wal-mart would have nothing to do with a digital download released only by SOE or Lucas Arts. I don't mean to ruin anyone's fun as I miss the old system(s) too... but damn SWG players need to stop falling for this crap.

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"Also for those people saying Bioware stated they would never take on anothers IP. There is a calrification on thier boards about this, and they stated that "comment" was before they started on the superdupersecret MMO.."
 

You need to complete the quote if you are going to reference it in regards to supporting your statement.

The entire quote went on that they were NOT limiting themself to an EXISTING BioWare IP.

Which also means that the MMO could be an entirely NEW BioWare IP.

It does not have to mean that it could be someone elses.

However, as multiple people have done... If you just state there was a clarification and that it was before the MMO sounds entirely different.

The entire quote was linked into another thread here last week.

I honestly and I don't just mean SWG here... understand with the cost to make an MMO why any company would really want to purchase an IP license.  It just adds more cost to a project in a very competitive market.

I just checked one of the wal-marts here in Mobile: two starter kits $19.99, three station pass bundles or whatever they are called $39.99.

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Originally posted by PepiDeto

Originally posted by Mordah

Originally posted by PepiDeto
No because that is only for the client side. The servers which actually run the game are in the POS NGE mode. Just because your computer had patches 1-8 on it doesn't mean that would be the game u play. It would be whatever is on the servers which is the NGE.

I kinda figured there was more to it than that, but what about all these guys saying they are building emulators? If a bunch of guys can put something together in their garage couldn't a bunch of smart computer guys like Bioware do it too?

The guys building the Emulators are using the little pieces of code on the original Discs to make the Emulators. I responded to the fact that you just can't stop d/l at patch 8 and play the game cause it doesn't work like that. That is what I was saying. Yes Bioware can do it and I hope they are. I just hope they transfer the Database so I can keep my character so I don't have to start over. I have everything the way I want and don't want 2 years of my work to mean nothing.

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IF all of this is true and bioware comes out with a pre-cu game, I would personally want everything started from scratch. My account ended a week after the cu as a full temp jedi, what would i be able to respec to? Would they even have jedi in the game? I dont have any idea as to how that stuff would work if you had to roll back (erase) the servers to almost a year ago, it seems like everyone would be lossing something. What about the players that started after the cu? I just cant see how a database transfer would work.

I think everyone who played swg got screwed out of their time and money, whether you quit after the first six months or are still playing, so i think it would be great if we could all start over and be newbs again. I've already acccepted that all the effort i spent in swg is gone forever, so a fresh start would be fun. I have a hard time believing all these rumors, but it's fun to dream.

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Originally posted by Antarious

"Also for those people saying Bioware stated they would never take on anothers IP. There is a calrification on thier boards about this, and they stated that "comment" was before they started on the superdupersecret MMO.."
 

You need to complete the quote if you are going to reference it in regards to supporting your statement.

The entire quote went on that they were NOT limiting themself to an EXISTING BioWare IP.

Which also means that the MMO could be an entirely NEW BioWare IP.

It does not have to mean that it could be someone elses.

However, as multiple people have done... If you just state there was a clarification and that it was before the MMO sounds entirely different.

The entire quote was linked into another thread here last week.

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Latest Quote from today

"Our studio, BioWare Edmonton, is still firmly pursuing the development of our own intellectual properties as we have been for some time.

Our new sister studio, BioWare Austin, has yet to state what stance they will be taking. I would refrain from assuming anything, one way or the other, until they've released more information."

James Henley Bioware

http://forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=473550&forum=41&sp=270

Given this still prolly just great PR on Bioware's part.

Ok... Ill clarfiy.. On their forums: Starting with the 4th post down. Someone asked about a post on the SWG forums, something about Bioware not using other peoples IP. Starting with the 4th post there are a few back and forth.

OP: the_one_54321

"no i was talking about the posts in starwars topics in the off topic forum. im pretty sure that henley has made it very clear that bioware will not be working with outside intellectual property.
no i was talking about the posts in starwars topics in the off topic forum. im pretty sure that henley has made it very clear that bioware will not be working with outside intellectual property."

Response:

OP: Chris Priestly

"I never saw those. But they certainly must have been made BEFORE we announced a MMO. Once again, this means nothing (except that James is as valuable a source of info as Woo) as far as what our MMO may or may not be about."

This is the link to those posts..

http://forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=473550&forum=41&sp=105

I wasn't trying to start a rumor, so I appologize if thats how it came across.

Xcathdra