Trending Games | EverQuest Next | Guild Wars 2 | World of Warcraft | Final Fantasy XV

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,920,779 Users Online:0
Games:760  Posts:6,312,540
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

Hardware  » Haswell-E launches

9 posts found
  Quizzical

Guide

Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 13789

 
OP  8/29/14 2:42:51 PM#1

There is, in American politics and probably elsewhere, a time-honored tradition of the Friday afternoon news dump.  Basically, if you have bad news that isn't publicly known yet but you know is going to come out eventually, you release the news on a Friday afternoon to minimize the publicity it gets.  The theory is that you release it too late for Friday news, people don't check the news much on Saturday, and by next week, you can dismiss it as old news.  In an Internet era, I don't think this works as well as it used to, and big enough scandals can drag on for weeks or years, but that doesn't stop people from trying.

There were rumors that Intel was going to launch Haswell-E today, on the Friday before Labor Day.  If you wanted to time a launch for minimal publicity, this is basically when you'd do it.  I started to write a post a couple of weeks ago asking why they'd do such a thing and what must be wrong with the chip.  But then I thought, nah, they wouldn't dare, and canceled the post.  Well, they just did:  and on a Friday afternoon, no less.

I can only recall one significant computer part in the last several years to launch on a Friday before today:  the GeForce GTX 480.  And that was on a Friday evening, no less.  Granted, Haswell-E isn't as bad as that awful chip, but then, "not as bad as the worst GPU chip of the last seven years" isn't exactly high praise.

So let's look at the damage.  With enough cores, the clock speeds are limited by how fast the chip can go inside a given thermal envelope, not just how fast the cores can go, period.  That has long been true of the higher end Xeon E5 and E7 chips, but this is arguably the first time that we're seeing markedly reduced clock speeds in desktop chips.  Granted, this is also the first time we're seeing an eight-core Intel chip, but even the six core chips have reduced clock speeds, with turbo topping out at 3.6 and 3.7 GHz, as compared to 3.8 GHz or more for all of Intel's previous Core i7 desktop chips of the last four years--including the six core variants of Sandy Bridge-E and Ivy Bridge-E.

It's not that they're trying to burn less power, either.  The TDP goes up:  140 W, as compared to 130 W for Ivy Bridge-E.  In spite of that, the clock speeds are down.  At stock speeds with six cores, Haswell-E is mostly slower than Ivy Bridge-E.  Overclocking can close that gap, but if you compare overclock to overclock, Haswell-E still isn't any better than Sandy Bridge-E, and you're probably using more power than Ivy Bridge-E.

But Haswell-E does offer DDR4, at least, right?  Well yes, but it's not at all clear that that's a good thing.  Even if you decide that you need 2133 MHz DDR3 to match the clock speed of DDR4, it's a lot cheaper to buy a given quantity of DDR3 than DDR4.  DDR4 will use less power than DDR4, but that is likely to get overwhelmed by Haswell-E using more power for the CPU than Ivy Bridge-E.

So does that make Haswell-E completely useless?  Well, no.  If you want eight cores in a desktop with a desktop feature set (overclocking allowed, non-ECC memory, etc.), Haswell-E is the first Intel CPU to over that.  It's over $1000, but still, if you need it, it's there.

But there's one other thing:  you can get a six core Haswell-E CPU for $390.  Ivy Bridge-E started at $560 for six cores.  Needing DDR4 memory and a more expensive motherboard will eat up much of that price different today.  But DDR4 will probably drop in price as time passes, as will X99 motherboards once they're out.  And cheaper is certainly good from a consumer perspective.

But this should also remind us of just how good Sandy Bridge really was.  If you bought a Core i7-2600 three and a half ago and are willing to overclock, you still have a legitimate high end CPU today.  It will be a year or so before anything with even a remote chance of changing that launches.  It used to be that you were doing well if a four year old CPU was not completely awful.

  chucky999

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/09/12
Posts: 12

8/29/14 3:06:49 PM#2
Well if AMD got the lead out of it's ass they would have some one to compete with. 3 out of the last 4 computers I built where AMD, and my i7 is faster then the other 3 combined.
  Torvaldr

Elite Member

Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 6115

8/29/14 5:17:49 PM#3
So with all that said, what you say the "Go To" chip is today in both i5 and i7, or does it still depend on many variables? I mention i7 because some people like me want those features for things other than gaming. Is there a sweet spot CPU right now for price and performance without overclocking. I would assume if one wanted to overclock they would more likely know exactly what they wanted and price for performance might not be a primary factor. Is that correct?

Curse you AquaScum!

  Quizzical

Guide

Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 13789

 
OP  8/29/14 5:57:12 PM#4

A lot depends on what you need.  If you need a capable gaming processor for cheap, get an Athlon 760K or FX-6300.  If you need lots of throughput cheaply but don't need exceptional single-threaded performance, an FX-8350.  If you don't need more than four cores but want them fast, a Core i5-4670K or -4690K.  For top end single-threaded performance and a very nice quad core, a Core i7-4790K.

If you need six cores and you need them faster than AMD offers, get the new Core i7-5820K, unless you need a ton of memory (i.e., at least 32 GB), in which case, maybe get the older Core i7-4930K.  Eight cores, Core i7-5960X.  More than eight cores in a workload that doesn't scale to multiple sockets, look at Xeon E5.  If you need massive CPU throughput with a workload that does scale well to multiple sockets (so threads don't need to communicate with each other all that much), a Xeon E5 dual or quad socket system.

If you mostly need massive amounts of memory bandwidth or memory capacity and know that you don't need much CPU performance, Opteron Abu Dhabi may make sense for you, or possibly Xeon E5; the advantage of the former is price.  If you need massive total CPU performance but have a workload that scales well to many cores and many sockets and don't need much single-threaded performance, Opteron Abu Dhabi might make sense, or Xeon E5.  If you do need high single-threaded performance with the enormous throughput required, that rules out Opteron, and you need Xeon E5.

If you really need ridiculous amounts of cores and sockets or memory or memory bandwidth in a single server and are willing to pay a fortune for it, then Xeon E7, or some enterprise systems from IBM or Oracle or maybe someone else, but once you wander into non-x86 enterprise CPUs, I don't know much about it.

If it's a workload that will scale to an enormous number of servers but is mostly limited by other things and not CPU performance, ARM-based microservers might be ideal.  Right now, ARM servers all 32-bit, which means little memory per socket, among other things, but that restriction is going away very soon.

  Ridelynn

Elite Member

Joined: 12/19/10
Posts: 3660

8/29/14 11:00:21 PM#5

Goes to show how good the Core line in general has been, particularly from on forward where they moved to the i3/i5/i7 brands.

I was really hoping to find a good reason to upgrade my X58 chipset, and Z97/X99 haven't been it yet. Early sites are show H-E 8-core CPU's OCing to the mid-4's on air, and just shy of 5 on water, so yeah, not quite as good as Sandy was, but there's also a rumor that the sites posting reviews now got cherry-picked top-end 8 core samples, and the 6-core variety isn't really out in large availability yet.

Maybe once DDR4 matures and we see prices stabilize out to something reasonable.

I wouldn't call it a bad launch - it's not like they slid backwards (*cough*Bulldozer*cough*), but I wouldn't call it very exciting. They put all their marbles in the Devil's Canyon basket and got somewhat snakebit.

  Nitth

Elite Member

Joined: 7/29/10
Posts: 3451

Magic Propels my Rolly Chair.

8/30/14 12:18:55 AM#6

I was looking at getting a 4930k, Will that still go head to head agisnt the new line of 6 core cpu's?


TSW - AoC - Aion - WOW - EVE - Fallen Earth - Co - Rift - || XNA C# Java Development

  yaminsux

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/23/05
Posts: 685

8/30/14 12:28:01 AM#7
IMO, if you dont OC. Intel without -K suffix would do just fine, and cheaper.
  Quizzical

Guide

Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 13789

 
OP  8/30/14 7:38:11 AM#8
Originally posted by Nitth

I was looking at getting a 4930k, Will that still go head to head agisnt the new line of 6 core cpu's?

At stock speeds, it will actually be faster than the new six core chips.  The downside is that it costs about $200 more than the new Core i7-5820K.

  Quizzical

Guide

Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 13789

 
OP  8/30/14 7:45:05 AM#9
Originally posted by yaminsux
IMO, if you dont OC. Intel without -K suffix would do just fine, and cheaper.

If you want six or more cores in a desktop, they're all overclockable.  Allowing overclocking is one of the reasons for the -E series chips to exist, as the same chips are available labeled as Xeon E5, but with a server-focused rather than desktop-focused set of features enabled.  For example, compare:

http://ark.intel.com/products/75779/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1620-v2-10M-Cache-3_70-GHz

http://ark.intel.com/products/77781/Intel-Core-i7-4820K-Processor-10M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/75780/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1650-v2-12M-Cache-3_50-GHz

http://ark.intel.com/products/77780/Intel-Core-i7-4930K-Processor-12M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/75781/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1660-v2-15M-Cache-3_70-GHz

http://ark.intel.com/products/77779/Intel-Core-i7-4960X-Processor-Extreme-Edition-15M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz

I'm sure that the Xeon E5 v3 line will be available very, very soon.