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General Discussion  » do NOT pay Founder for this game

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  Broverpowerd

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Joined: 4/18/13
Posts: 35

8/04/14 7:40:17 AM#21
I've barely played to 20, and I can already tell that unless there is no population, this will be my game of choice for a good while. Even bought the $150 Founder after CB2 this weekend.
  Vapors

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Joined: 1/16/10
Posts: 408

8/04/14 7:54:26 AM#22
Originally posted by delete5230
Labor points and cash shops......Thats all I need to see......I'll never play this game !

This comment of yours is such nonsense or more like arrogant. The Cash shop if you give it a honest review has not a single item in, which is any usefull. And how do you suppose they make money to sustain the servers? Do you think they are basketball players getting sponsored by billion dollar banks?

  sketocafe

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Joined: 7/19/11
Posts: 651

8/04/14 7:54:32 AM#23
Originally posted by BalianWolfie
Originally posted by delete5230
Labor points and cash shops......Thats all I need to see......I'll never play this game !

 

Have no idea why people against this when LP is a way for game to profit (incentive to purchase) and a powerful tool to limit how much one can affect economics as a whole. I mean, surely WoW in-game economics are SO GREAT thanks to the greedy gold-digging goblins. Enough said.

 

About cash shop / sub, you really need to evaluate what they really do, without bias. You will only realize, as far as cash shop for alpha / beta phase, it's purely for convenience and looks.

You don't see a problem when the people who determine the rate at which LP are gained are trying to sell you LP for cash? That's like acknowledging that LP rates may be a problem but deciding that the solution is to sell you a solution.

  Vapors

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Joined: 1/16/10
Posts: 408

8/04/14 8:01:38 AM#24
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by SpottyGekko

So apparently this whole Labour Points concept is to make people spend money in the Cash Shop ? Strange that they put a 12-hour cooldown on those LP pots though, not a very good "money grabbing" design if you limit people to buying X per day. If it was a serious money grab, they'd just allow you to buy an unlimited number at a higher price ?

 

I wish Trion would announce the launch date already, I just want to PLAAAAAAAAY !!!!

Couldn't agree more, I just want to play this game :)

 

I really don't get all the fuss about LP, you play as F2P and suffer LP restrictions or you sub and LP appear to then be a non issue. I also read that as a F2P player you can purchase LP pots to top yourself up from merchants using in game gold.

 

Not sure if that is true or not, but if it is then there is no cash grab is there....just a restricted F2P option ala SWTOR.

 

Just like I did during my time in SWTOR I will sub to get the best experience with the occasional cash shop purchase when I feel like it.

thats atleast 1 dollar every 12 hours XD

  User Deleted
8/04/14 8:25:20 AM#25
Originally posted by bingbongbros
Originally posted by Demrocks

Bought the founders pack and loved every minute i have spended so far +- 2 months.

Dont listen to these spoiled themepark boys who will never find an mmo worth playing as nothing is good enough.

All they can do is bash / flame / hate / troll 

Have fun in whatever mmo you may play next o/

From the game I played, AA is a themepark too...

It's a sandpark.

  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 6062

8/04/14 8:30:54 AM#26

OP - Trion didn't come up with the labor system - its a core system that was always part of ArcheAge.

XL came up with the labor system as a way of controlling the economy.

 - dropped gear in AA is mediocre at best, all good, better and best in slot items are player crafted

- crafted items are tradable

- to prevent the game being FLOODED with 1000s of uber items they put in a labor system that limits mass item crafting

- they didn't want to put in item decay, so how do you keep items uber-rare and valuable after years of running?

 

The system works - in Korea after 2 years - I don't think there is a single player walking around fully decked out in best item in every slot.

 

Its fine to hate the labor system - but at least understand the reasons and method behind it

  Uzik

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Joined: 2/12/04
Posts: 284

8/04/14 8:35:42 AM#27

Every time I see "The game doesn't work for me!" what I really read is "I've done something to mess up my PC and interfere with games working!".

 

EVERYONE I've played with and spoken to about playing ArcheAge over the past few weeks has had ZERO issues with the client working.

 

The only MINOR bug is a stuttering issue caused by DX11, which can be solved by playing in windowed mode, or using DX9 settings.

 

 

As for the other criticisms, they are completely invalid.  Sounds to me like you want some instant gratification FPSMMO.  Maybe Planetside is more on your level?

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  etharn

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Joined: 9/14/10
Posts: 38

8/04/14 8:42:34 AM#28

I've been testing AA for both closed beta 1 and 2. I have to say the game is very addicting once you get into it, though I do have complaints about the game related to LP because I feel restricted at times. I am not a patron and so I have to waste server space to "grind" LP to do the things I like such as crafting. Although in a play time with creating new character by the time I get to the intro quests to crafting I have about 100-150 LP already saved up for it. While your items are growing there is plenty of other things to do too while you regain LP. Some of the items include pvp, hangout with friends, be a pirate, help fellow guild mates defending them against those nasty pirates, etc. 

Anyways, once you hit lvl 30 the game really opens up and those boring quests, which are tutorials if you think about it, you dont really need to do; you can gain xp by crafting or pvp as well. Really up to you how you want to play the game. :D

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  Demrocks

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Joined: 8/25/13
Posts: 133

8/04/14 8:44:29 AM#29

Labor point system is perfect, it makes people think about where to spend it on and not farm 50000000 logs and iron and wreck the whole economy.

I like that system, in 15 minutes i made 50 gold and that was the 1st time i used the auction house, its like in Eve where everything is player build / crafted.

There is always a suplly demand system going and thats awesome.

 

Labor system is something you need to micro manage it aint that hard....and it sure as hell doesnt suck as bots cannot go out and keep wrecking the enonomy...even tough any mmo these days will have bots that migt find a way.

 

 

 

 

  Nokerri

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/20/04
Posts: 8

8/04/14 8:53:25 AM#30
Originally posted by mcrippins
I read about as much of your review as I could. One thing you are wrong about is Trion implementing the labor points system. This was designed by XL Games and has been in every version of Archeage since its inception. Trion did not implement this to make money as you put it. In FACT - Trion's version of the LP system is incredibly generous to every other version out there. In RU you get 1 labor point every 5 minutes for free 2 play. Trion you get 5 lp/5, and 10lp/5 if you're a sub. I've heard in some version you actually get 0, but the labor potions can be chugged. The sad truth is Trion has done an amazing job of not making this game pay 2 win, but people will find anything and everything to complain about. So carry on!

+1

  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 6062

8/04/14 8:56:07 AM#31
Originally posted by mcrippins
I read about as much of your review as I could. One thing you are wrong about is Trion implementing the labor points system. This was designed by XL Games and has been in every version of Archeage since its inception. Trion did not implement this to make money as you put it. In FACT - Trion's version of the LP system is incredibly generous to every other version out there. In RU you get 1 labor point every 5 minutes for free 2 play. Trion you get 5 lp/5, and 10lp/5 if you're a sub. I've heard in some version you actually get 0, but the labor potions can be chugged. The sad truth is Trion has done an amazing job of not making this game pay 2 win, but people will find anything and everything to complain about. So carry on!

  nerovipus32

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Joined: 1/15/11
Posts: 2716

8/04/14 8:57:18 AM#32
Originally posted by An4thor
Originally posted by bingbongbros
Originally posted by Demrocks

Bought the founders pack and loved every minute i have spended so far +- 2 months.

Dont listen to these spoiled themepark boys who will never find an mmo worth playing as nothing is good enough.

All they can do is bash / flame / hate / troll 

Have fun in whatever mmo you may play next o/

From the game I played, AA is a themepark too...

It's a sandpark.

You can give it a new fancy name if you like it's still not a sanbox. It resembles a themepark much more.

  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 6062

8/04/14 9:05:14 AM#33
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by An4thor
Originally posted by bingbongbros
Originally posted by Demrocks

Bought the founders pack and loved every minute i have spended so far +- 2 months.

Dont listen to these spoiled themepark boys who will never find an mmo worth playing as nothing is good enough.

All they can do is bash / flame / hate / troll 

Have fun in whatever mmo you may play next o/

From the game I played, AA is a themepark too...

It's a sandpark.

You can give it a new fancy name if you like it's still not a sanbox. It resembles a themepark much more.

In the beginning yes.

Play the game at 30+ .... not much themepark left.

 

  MMOredfalcon

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/18/13
Posts: 135

8/04/14 9:05:57 AM#34
Originally posted by adderVXI
Thanks but I'm having more fun than I've had in years in a mom. I'll play, and pay the sub!

 Years in a mom? I donno, but standard issue is about 9 months in a mom.....

As for the game...personally I think it is worth it. Seems people who just want everything for free and to be easy don't like this one. I haven't been playing alot of it right now, just rather wait till actual release to get in the game. But questing is no better or worse than any other MMO. Graphically it runs pretty well. People will bitch n complain that graphics not top notch...then when they get a game with top notch graphics they will complain that their PC can't handle it.

  User Deleted
8/04/14 9:06:17 AM#35
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by An4thor
Originally posted by bingbongbros
Originally posted by Demrocks

Bought the founders pack and loved every minute i have spended so far +- 2 months.

Dont listen to these spoiled themepark boys who will never find an mmo worth playing as nothing is good enough.

All they can do is bash / flame / hate / troll 

Have fun in whatever mmo you may play next o/

From the game I played, AA is a themepark too...

It's a sandpark.

You can give it a new fancy name if you like it's still not a sanbox. It resembles a themepark much more.

Considering questing is like 1% of what the game is about and considering the lol dungeons, no it's not a themepark.

  Charlie.Cheswick

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Joined: 3/23/14
Posts: 99

8/04/14 9:09:24 AM#36
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by An4thor
Originally posted by bingbongbros
Originally posted by Demrocks

Bought the founders pack and loved every minute i have spended so far +- 2 months.

Dont listen to these spoiled themepark boys who will never find an mmo worth playing as nothing is good enough.

All they can do is bash / flame / hate / troll 

Have fun in whatever mmo you may play next o/

From the game I played, AA is a themepark too...

It's a sandpark.

You can give it a new fancy name if you like it's still not a sanbox. It resembles a themepark much more.

Would you prefer the term ' themebox ' then?

Still too fancy?

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  BetaBlocka

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Joined: 4/09/14
Posts: 235

8/04/14 9:09:27 AM#37
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by An4thor
Originally posted by bingbongbros
Originally posted by Demrocks

Bought the founders pack and loved every minute i have spended so far +- 2 months.

Dont listen to these spoiled themepark boys who will never find an mmo worth playing as nothing is good enough.

All they can do is bash / flame / hate / troll 

Have fun in whatever mmo you may play next o/

From the game I played, AA is a themepark too...

It's a sandpark.

You can give it a new fancy name if you like it's still not a sanbox. It resembles a themepark much more.

I'm not familiar with any themeparks where I can choose one of the sandbox features I like, lets say underwater treasure hunting for example and level my character just doing the things I enjoy...if I choose to.

 

You are right, the beginning of the game resembles a themepark and if this helps ease players with no sandbox experience into the game then I am all for it...

 

Not sure why you have a problem with a part of the game "resembling" a themepark when 95% of your time in game will be spent experiencing emergent, sandbox style gameplay :)

  Avanah

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Joined: 9/18/04
Posts: 899

8/04/14 9:17:29 AM#38
Originally posted by jadzYa

And I will tell you why. Well actually no, I will tell you my personal, biased, only 10 hours of ClosedBeta2 opinion and you can make up your own mind.

That is as far as I read before giving you this answer....

You are not out of the Tutorial yet.

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  Jabas

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Joined: 7/23/08
Posts: 1119

8/04/14 9:33:31 AM#39
Originally posted by jadzYa
Originally posted by Jabas

Thanks for the advice, but i will happy pay the monthly fee.

In fact AA is the only current game atm that worth my money, just need the release to start paying and play.

 

 

And you probably should once you verify that the game works for you. Even more so after they clean up some of their mess.
I've payed either subscription ( 6 years now of 3 accounts in eve, a couple of month of FF14), for the game (gw, gw2) or for in-game items (aion, poe, terra, ps2, warframe, etc) for every game I played. Is not about the money per se. The LP thingie is just double-dipping and probably a VERY bad attempt at bot controlling. It is the overall really bad state of the client that made me write the whole thing.

Btw my client force exits with NO error message every EXACTLY 12 minutes 30 seconds. I use a stop watch to know how long till that time so I know not to engage (cause there is no auto-attack so when you disconnect in a fight you are guarantied to die). And I'm one of the lucky ones that don't get BSODs every couple of minutes.

That is the main reason not to pay for the game. The rest of the average gaming experience / economy balance issues /  cash shop bs are just secondary and you can choose yourself if they constitute a problem or not for your game style/finances.

I know the version i had played in RU is diferent from the one im going to start playing in EU, just like the state of the game that is in current beta might be diferent from release state, we dont know, maybe even Trion dont know.

The only thing i know is AA is the only mmorpg i want to play atm, and i will be there in release date. 

Dont care about alphas neither betas, have had mine in RU, just want the release in EU.

  SpottyGekko

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8/04/14 9:48:46 AM#40
Originally posted by Ivylena
Originally posted by jadzYa

And I will tell you why. Well actually no, I will tell you my personal, biased, only 10 hours of ClosedBeta2 opinion and you can make up your own mind.

That is as far as I read before giving you this answer....

You are not out of the Tutorial yet.

I find it hilarious that XLGames actually ADDED a new-player tutorial part to the game (in the Korean version) recently...

 

It appears that modern players are so stultified by years of themepark gameplay that they need a tutorial to prepare for the tutorial in AA !

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/572/view/forums/post/6411725#6411725

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