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News & Features Discussion  » [Column] Rift: Is the Patron Status Worth It?

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7/25/14 2:24:45 PM#21

I 100% agree with the article. Point , I am getting the subscription Rift I was paying for for free now. The Patron subscription are just "perks" and add nothing to the experience over all.

Right now I am a returning player. I was very into Rift when it came out at launch. Did all the raid content up until a few months after Hammerknell came out and got burned out with progression. I am leveling my main character and atm almost 59. I am enjoying the free content and will likely get the next expansion IF it includes all of the new souls since vanilla Rift. (not just the 4 new souls from the expansion)

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7/25/14 2:49:35 PM#22
Other than the XP boost, I don't see anything there very interesting. How about some store credit for subbers every month? That *might* make it marginally appealing. I'm not cheap but I just don't see how it will get any more people in. Sure, if I return when NT releases I will prob pick up the soul pack. I've had 3 characters at 60 since a couple of months after SL released. How much is the level cap increasing?  Just 5 levels. So I don't even see a large benefit in the patron XP boost... it's just for 15 levels spread out among 3 characters.

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7/25/14 2:58:32 PM#23
Subs aren't worth it tbh imo if you can get stuff from the cash shop via in game currency. Subscriptions in games like these are only worth it for people who have severe time constraints. Otherwise, you only get stuff done a potentially 40% faster. Not to mention Archeage is otw and to me that game would be best to save your money and apply a sub to if you have to choose. So if you're low on time, get a sub; however, if you can play a few hours on and off during the week, its not really worth it.
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7/25/14 3:00:40 PM#24

40% is pretty insane; might be enough for me to re-sub. That being said, I disagree with the way Rift handles their patron system. I appreciate what they're trying to do, but I feel like something along the lines of SWTOR/LOTRO or Tibia is perfectly fair to the player and more profitable for the company.


Many will probably disagree with me, but I see no problem in a freemium system where you can get in for free, experience the game, see if you like the fundamentals, and if you really want to get into later content pony up for that sub. It could be partly that I'm old school and so not bothered by subs, but the way I look at it, a company of people has put hundreds of hours into work on this game, and if you play it on any regular kind of basis, you should feel bad NOT giving something for their effort. While I played Rift I had the patron status even though I felt the system was lacking, just because I liked the game. Plus I hate having to worry about the nickel and diming in in-game shops.


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7/25/14 3:56:31 PM#25
worth it to who?

When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.


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7/25/14 3:58:10 PM#26

Credit Stipends would turn the game into a P2W faster because of REX, which you can turn into in game currency (gold or platinum as Rift does it)


Which would make acquiring enchantments, crafting mats, items, consumables much easier than F2P and would cause inflation at a higher rate.


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7/25/14 4:44:55 PM#27

I do not like their patron setup.

The artifact tracking is the best part.  Other than that it is mostly garbage.


But lets be honest: patron status exists because Trion knows people will pay $15 per month out of habit


And I am one of those people.  When I play EQ2, I sub.  Even though I *know* with my play style I can do everything I want in game for less than that, EQ2 gives me a stipend, free LoN packs, and access to their other games. 

I know I will eventually use that stipend towards a prestige home, and I like to fool around in LoN and have gotten some nice free loot cards.  I feel I get value out of giving $15 to SoE.


I don't get value out of giving $15 to Trion.  And if they inflated the rates of things like prestige in Nightmare Tide so they could add a 40% buff to patrons to get more to buy it, then that is certainly a trick which they aren't supposed to have any of.


Before NT, they had the best f2p value (though far from the best f2p game).  There may or may not be a change to this after NT.  We'll see.


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7/25/14 5:19:57 PM#28
I actually prefer the slower leveling and less hand holding. Being free is the icing on the cake.

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7/25/14 5:59:03 PM#29
patron status worth it? no.. and star wars ond republic its the same

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7/25/14 8:00:14 PM#30

I play rift when I want my BG fix. I love pvp! I am sitting on 4 rex and around 12000k plat with my one account. The new patron status takes away from my alting fun  in battlegrounds. As those patron status wont stay in the lower level ones for long. But I do see the benefits of patron for a 60. PAs are important. Having 600 + makes you almost complete. So getting them quicker is a good thing right?

Is patron status worth it? Depends on the player!



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7/25/14 8:10:57 PM#31
Originally posted by CrazKanuk

It's an interesting idea, actually, when you think about it. Basically they're saying that a subscription model has diminishing returns, which it does, and that the people who should be paying for the game are those who are currently, actively leveling through the game.


What I mean is, we all complain about how no game, really, gives us enough to do once we reach the max-level content. This isn't anyting new. Once we hit that wall, we generally unsubscribe and move on. It becomes less and less compelling for us to stick around if we're paying for something that we're not really using, or for something that feels like a job. However, if it were free, we'd probably stick around and pop our heads in occassionally to run a raid or whatever (without having to drop $15 in the bucket). 


It's the one complaint I have with SWTORs model, I just gave you like a hundred bucks, but you're telling me now that I can't do the max-level content without being subscribed? Or buying a pass? Nope, not really going to happen. It's all about value, and while I feel I can get a lot of value from paying monthly for SWTOR or Rift while I'm leveling, once I get to max-level, all there really is to do is do raids once a week. So I've gone from paying $15 for 30 days to paying $15 for 2 or 3 days of use. 


So I think that Rift might actually be onto something here. The only question remaining, and they'll need to still think about it, is how can they monetize their max-level players? 

Except most people who use that reasoning haven't done even half of all there is to offer in the game so its less about there being "nothing to do" and more about there being nothing the particular person cares to do.


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7/25/14 8:41:28 PM#32

Wow, the entitlement here...


No its not spoiled its called paying... now yes you might as a f2p player pay something too great good on you, thats where systems like swtor and other companies 3 tier system works nicely. 


But no you neither deserve nor should get all the benefits people paying to keep up developement get.

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7/25/14 8:47:24 PM#33
Oh boy! Yet another game that's Windows only! :P

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7/25/14 8:54:31 PM#34

Its getting to be near what I wanted it to be when they first went to free-to-play, and I had many many days of paid patronage left due to expansion deals etc. Now I think a monthly stipend to spend in the cash bar is needed. and more artifact time. Maybe some crafting [skill] pots too.

don't get me wrong the new 40% always on or off is much better then the pots.(pots gave the 2 hour bonus reset every day you could ONLY stack 7 days worth, 7 potions) not always on like NOW)


Patron Halo for the win!


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7/25/14 11:08:03 PM#35

I'ts good to see Trion hard at work again to make their Rift fans happy. I just hope they give that kind of attention to their future ArcheAge fans. Trion has the respect of many gamers due to their involvement in the community and constant updates and developments. However, Trion has proven they are still a business and must do what all successful businesses do. They make money and money comes first, even downsizing staff and canceling projects to sustain their wealth. They made Rift worth playing before it went F2P and it shows they still care to keep it alive. If F2P is going to work successfully by other publishers they should keep an eye on Trion's model. Yes, its a money grab but its mainly for asthetics versus paywall.


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7/26/14 1:11:37 AM#36

"Is the Patron Status Worth It?"



Arbitrary question is arbitrary.  The product is either worth it to the individual or it isn't; there shouldn't be any hidden secrets or traps-doors within.




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Joined: 3/31/08
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7/26/14 9:56:12 AM#37

Only if you do so knowing they'll get you further down the line somewhere else too. Do NOT expect to pay a sub and be set if you're attempting to be competitive at all. Best-in-slot gear on the cash shop?! Oh lovely.

It's really only worth it for the rep grind. Which is GODAWFUL in Rift.

Ugh, just stay away.


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7/26/14 11:45:44 AM#38

Personally I think it would be more worth it if they gave you cash shop currency a month as SOE does with their games. Most of the Patron benefits I care not for, but some extra currency to spend on swag would be a 100% increase to the Patron system.


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7/26/14 1:23:35 PM#39
Been a patron until about 2 weeks ago when I did not have time to play as much. Best F2P model ever. And I will likely be a patron again when I get more time.

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7/27/14 10:17:25 AM#40

If your thing is a themepark, Rift is one of the best out there and definitely worth trying. The game is getting a little tired/old though and you can both see and feel that as you level up. 

Rift is also about to get tremendous competition with the many MMORPGs that seems to be lining up at the moment. Trion has done wel in getting Archeage inside their door.

But if you havent tried Rift, you should. And then you can see if you think a sub is worth it. One thing is clear, at the moment, Rift has one of the absolute best F2P systems around.

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