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  MMOExposed

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OP  7/24/14 8:39:56 AM#1

I see this statement a lot now days that Quest in MMOs are generic.

Well I have to ask. What kind of quest entertains you?

What quest are not generic?

What video game had quest that wasnt generic?

And If you want better quest, at lease explain what would make them better.

  DMKano

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7/24/14 8:42:41 AM#2
In ALL mmo games? Simply not true.
  Bathnor

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7/24/14 3:46:15 PM#3
Runescape is a game where the quests are not generic. I doubt you have played all of the quests in every MMO so it is not fair to generalize.
  iixviiiix

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7/25/14 11:37:21 AM#4

My Idea quest system in MMORPG link with game time. Not player's playtime but in game time.

 

My ideal is make a cycle of time.

The quests from NPC will unlock when time search certain point of the cycle of time.

For example

I make a cycle with 365 day with 1 day in game time = 4h in real life . I will get a cycle of 90 days in real life.

a NPC will unlock quest to hunt wolfs at mid of day 50 in game time.

If player don't finish the quest in 2 day in game time (limit 8h IRL) , the quest will fail and auto delete.

The time limit base on NPC's time . If you meet with NPC at day 51 In game time , you only have 4h left to finish the quest.

 

The NPC don't have the [ ! ] so you have to talk with them like in classic role playing game

Even if it same hunt wolf quest from same NPC , by difference of time it will give difference "reward" ,

 

at some point of time , simple wolf hunt quest may turn into super epic quest.

For example when you accept wolf hunt quest at day 205 in game time , the wolf have 20% change to drop some item that use to unlock some quest hidden in some where.

 

By twist the time quests appear each 6 months or 1 year IRL . it will make player unable to catch the patten of game design , make site guide become total useless .

 

You raise the quality of quest design to the point nearly impossible to know what happen in next day to players by change the place monster spawn by % .

So even if you accept the quest , you may meet the FAIL .

 

Of course it still possible to have walk-through page in internet , but it will take a lots work and the info may become useless after 6 months or 1 years .

By difference time and space spam quest , you may at A when quest spam at B , so you even miss the quest.

Each day , you never know what event with start .

 

This my ideal about MMORPG quest system . 

It total focus on the multiplayer part of massively multiplayer online and the role playing part of the role playing game

  cmorris975

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7/25/14 12:44:08 PM#5
I liked the difficult quests in early EQ 1, the epic weapon quests for instance.  I've heard people describe modern quests as "tasks" which sounds about right.
  PioneerStew

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7/25/14 12:50:40 PM#6

There are only a certain number of quest types you can incorporate into an mmo; but there are different ways of presenting and delivering them, a few examples being: -

  • within an interesting story arc as per GW1 or SWTOR. 
  • zone events as per Rift or GW2. 
  • dynamic events as per Rift or GW2. 
  • dungeons (inc. solo dungeons) aka most mmos but delivered particularly well in CoX or DDO. 
  • investigations as per TSW 
  • can't be bothered thinking of more. 
My point is that just chucking a load of !/? 'kill ten rats' quests at players these days is lazy design.   
  Sevenstar61

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7/25/14 12:51:09 PM#7
I disagree. Many MMOs have quests that are not generic, SWTOR and TSW (especially TSW) stend out here. Sure, there will allways be quests less or more interesting, but generic? I disagree.


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  Foobarx

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7/25/14 12:54:08 PM#8

Why doesn't the OP answer his own question?

  UsualSuspect

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7/25/14 3:24:28 PM#9

Original EQ had the right kind of quests. I played a Monk for most of my time in EQ, so can only reference their quests, but for example they had sash and headband quests which involve traveling to multiple dungeons across the world, finding a mob deep inside that dungeon and killing it for a piece of the quest. That, to me, is more 'quest like', it takes you throughout the world, takes you into dangerous locations that need other peoples help, has you find a specific mob, loot a specific item... and that's not even mentioning the Epic quests, where you had to raid various planes and hunt down rare spawns.

Modern MMO's the quests are like, "Go ten feet that way to the field of specifically placed wolves, kill ten of the wolves and loot their pelts, then return here and hand the pelts over.". It's incredibly stale and uninteresting. And the whole game is populated by these things. Awful awful design.

  Loktofeit

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7/25/14 3:36:09 PM#10

In what way do you consider them "generic"? It's hard to answer your questions without knowing the aspect you are referring to. 

 

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  yoendris

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7/25/14 3:38:48 PM#11

Runescape!, with all the hate it gets i still think it's one of the games i had the most fun with pre'06 (quit when they removed wildy PK like everyone else) and i've played wow since vanilla, quests in Runescape felt like an actual adventure, i've tried almost every MMO out there and nothing compares...

just thinking about it makes my mind melt in nostalgia, good times.

  rojoArcueid

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7/25/14 3:44:08 PM#12

and until a developer breaks that cycle, mmos will keep feeling generic.

 

¨oh but evey mmo has bad content. Therefore, every new mmo must have the same bad content¨..... seriously.... unless they start breaking that old and ugly pattern, we wont have better PvE leveling experiences.

  SosaBaby

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7/25/14 3:45:15 PM#13

Originally posted by yoendris

Runescape!, with all the hate it gets i still think it's one of the games i had the most fun with pre'06 (quit when they removed wildy PK like everyone else) and i've played wow since vanilla, quests in Runescape felt like an actual adventure, i've tried almost every MMO out there and nothing compares...

just thinking about it makes my mind melt in nostalgia, good times.

 

Hey they just added back Legacy mode getting rid of that crappy combat and the wild has been back for sometime. Also they now have oldschool runescape, a version of runescape before that wild/free trade nonsense/EOC.

But like this guy has said runescape has by far the best quest. Some quests take more than a day to finish and most tasks in the quest are not filler. Runescape is a great game and if your are looking for a sandbox-ish world with good quest give it a try.

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  Jean-Luc_Picard

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7/25/14 5:06:53 PM#14

Anyone saying that kind of nonsense had never played Asheron's Call 1.

I generally find the OP's threads totally useless, but this one is good, the question was well asked and I'm eager to read the answers of some of the regulars here who bash quests everytime they can.

I'll be following it.

 

Originally posted by Sevenstar61
I disagree. Many MMOs have quests that are not generic, SWTOR and TSW (especially TSW) stend out here. Sure, there will allways be quests less or more interesting, but generic? I disagree.

While I greatly enjoyed my stay in SW:TOR, the quest were definitely "canned", aka generic. Everything was pretty much straightforward, and even marked on the map. Kill this, kill that, come back, bingo! Shiny new gear.

In AC1, people needed 2 months to figure out the totality of the Aerfalle quest. Today's gamers would cry like no tomorrow on the forums the second day after the release. That's was non generic questing, requiring a whole community to figure out all the details.

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  Arclan

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7/25/14 7:13:07 PM#15


Originally posted by UsualSuspect
Original EQ had the right kind of quests. I played a Monk for most of my time in EQ, so can only reference their quests, but for example they had sash and headband quests which involve traveling to multiple dungeons across the world, finding a mob deep inside that dungeon and killing it for a piece of the quest. That, to me, is more 'quest like', it takes you throughout the world, takes you into dangerous locations that need other peoples help, has you find a specific mob, loot a specific item... and that's not even mentioning the Epic quests, where you had to raid various planes and hunt down rare spawns.

Modern MMO's the quests are like, "Go ten feet that way to the field of specifically placed wolves, kill ten of the wolves and loot their pelts, then return here and hand the pelts over.". It's incredibly stale and uninteresting. And the whole game is populated by these things. Awful awful design.



Agreed


EverQuest was so named, I think, because it took forever to complete each quest; and it has tens of thousands of them; according to SOE, many of which have never been found by players.


A simple low level quest involved getting something from an NPC in the nearby woods. Well the NPC was actually far away; near a lake. Getting to him required avoiding a host of hostile creatures. Odds are you died several times just trying to find him. The NPC asks for Milk before he'll cooperate. Finding milk was a quest in itself; it was sold by only one vendor in town; in an out-of-the-way place.

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  eldaris

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7/25/14 7:17:30 PM#16

And still much less boring than grinding tons of 1000 npcs to gain a level like in eq1

  drakolas

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7/25/14 7:32:11 PM#17
Threads in these forums have become generic.
  xeniar

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7/25/14 7:33:36 PM#18

without reading much of the thread my opinion on the matter:

Not all MMO's ahve the same quest sytem. There are a few wich divert from it.

Guild wars 2 is one. But those hearts are really quests in disguise wiithout needing to talk to someone, so not really that different.

And TSW now this mmo has a wildly diffrent quest system and alot of the time uses your wordly knowledge to get it. I think they have done questing right but instead of using real world experience. Finding clues stuff and lore inside the game would be much more fun. Again everything just given in clues on where to go no exact locations.

 

Now what id like to see is EQOA system. it gave a couple quest every level. (lets say 5) so you get 5 tasks with story each level mini quest chains leading u trough certain area's (almost never gave armor exept for the big ones). These where accompanied by massive chains with alot of hard things u needed to acomplish rewarded with an epic reward.

So now what i would like to see is 1 of 3 With special quests should not be 

1 remove quests entirely.

2 Give a few meaningfull quests like in EQOA class quests epic questline for your armor and some small story follow up chains.

3 TSW system where u'd have to think where ur going (this also aplies to 2) Remove the abomanation wich is meaningless tasks (aka kill 10 rats, deliver 5 furs etc)

  rojoArcueid

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7/25/14 7:52:48 PM#19
Originally posted by UsualSuspect

Original EQ had the right kind of quests. I played a Monk for most of my time in EQ, so can only reference their quests, but for example they had sash and headband quests which involve traveling to multiple dungeons across the world, finding a mob deep inside that dungeon and killing it for a piece of the quest. That, to me, is more 'quest like', it takes you throughout the world, takes you into dangerous locations that need other peoples help, has you find a specific mob, loot a specific item...

that little bit sounds better than the crappy task collection agency mmos have become. The problem is, how did that dangerous monster got his claws on that item and ended up at the far end of that dark and deadly dungeon? there needs to be a good story behind it. If the item just magically appears there for the sake of making you loot it then thats equally as bad as what we have today.

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7/25/14 7:54:41 PM#20
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

Anyone saying that kind of nonsense had never played Asheron's Call 1.

I generally find the OP's threads totally useless, but this one is good, the question was well asked and I'm eager to read the answers of some of the regulars here who bash quests everytime they can.

I'll be following it.

 

Originally posted by Sevenstar61
I disagree. Many MMOs have quests that are not generic, SWTOR and TSW (especially TSW) stend out here. Sure, there will allways be quests less or more interesting, but generic? I disagree.

While I greatly enjoyed my stay in SW:TOR, the quest were definitely "canned", aka generic. Everything was pretty much straightforward, and even marked on the map. Kill this, kill that, come back, bingo! Shiny new gear.

In AC1, people needed 2 months to figure out the totality of the Aerfalle quest. Today's gamers would cry like no tomorrow on the forums the second day after the release. That's was non generic questing, requiring a whole community to figure out all the details.

I think it depends on how you look at it. SWTOR for instance has one quest per class that takes a while to get through and is handled really well (the class quest). There are also some side quests that have a much better structure than your typical generic task...

TSW has these as well, same could be said for AOC or ESO.

ARe all games filled with generic quests? Yes...

However there are ways to get away with that, while still keeping a fairly interesting experience intact.

As for AC1 I'd first have to know how said quest actually worked.. Just because it takes 2 months to figure out, that doesn't mean it's worth figuring out.

 

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