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  Aeonblades

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7/24/14 11:33:08 AM#21
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by Havekk

Originally posted by ThomasN7 It is Borderlands with armor upgrades.  That is the best way I can describe it. It is an ok game but it is nothing people haven't seen before. There is a lot of go fetch and go kill quests in between the main story line just like any standard mmo. Flying from planet to planet is cinematic and really disappointing.  The public events they have is pretty much like Guild Wars 2 which is pretty disappointing.  Having only 3 professions at launch is disheartening. The story is pretty good but Bungie has always told good stories. I don't see the need for multiplayer because it just gets in the way of making this a good single player game. Still on the fence about cancelling my pre-order but I wouldn't personally go out and buy a special edition of this game. I'm not sure it will be worth it in the long haul.
What's really disappointing to me is the MMO community and this view of new games. Does something have to be completely new with never seen before elements to be enjoyed? Can we not just enjoy a game for what it is based on it's own merits rather then comparing it with every gods-damned game that came before it? 

 

 

It's like a game comes out, has a quest hub and people say "well, fuck this game... been there done that, I'm out" and move on. Holy Jebus fucking christ on a pogo-stick people... is this what we've become? I read these forums everyday and actual quake and shutter for the developers. There is no way to make people happy. I mean... at all. 

 

I'm a fan of movies and comics. I can't tell you how many times I see a movie and based on the fact that every plot has been done to death, I can kinda figure out where the story is going. Does that mean I don't enjoy the movie? Nope. It absolutely doesn't. I watch the movie and judge it for what it is. If I enjoy it, I enjoy it. Same goes with comic books. I read comics all the time that recycle things like crazy over and over. I still enjoy them. 

 

What I'm saying is that I personally can enjoy the shit outta a game, even if it's a clone of another game as long as it keeps me interested. I think the sad fact is that a lot of you flat out hate the genre and just don't want to admit it. 



I wouldn't let a handful of cynics get you down. Because literally that's all there is on this site at least; 5 or 6 people who shit on everything. It just seems like a lot more because they all chime in on just about every thread that allows them to post something negative. The actual majority around here is fairly positive.

 

Forum burn out happens often around here. The negativity drives me away for weeks or months sometimes. As Foom said, most of the posts around here are positive, so if it's just a case of dealing with angry people all day on this forum (and a lot of them are just trying to rain on people's parades), try to let it roll off your back, duck style!

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  rojoArcueid

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7/24/14 11:35:16 AM#22

Destiny seriously needs a higher default Field of View. Fanboys on the Destiny forums keep crying that consoles dont need fov because it uses more resources blah blah blah.

 

I am really starting to question why did i purchase a next generation console that apparently can only handle last generation features only with better graphics. If i dont see real next gen features within the next year i will probably sell my ps4 and get a WiiU for the good old Nintendo exclusives.

 

So far every game coming out has some things that should have been improved for next gen but they arent.

  Stizzled

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7/24/14 12:08:28 PM#23
Originally posted by rojoArcueid

Destiny seriously needs a higher default Field of View. Fanboys on the Destiny forums keep crying that consoles dont need fov because it uses more resources blah blah blah.

 

I am really starting to question why did i purchase a next generation console that apparently can only handle last generation features only with better graphics. If i dont see real next gen features within the next year i will probably sell my ps4 and get a WiiU for the good old Nintendo exclusives.

 

So far every game coming out has some things that should have been improved for next gen but they arent.

Why did you buy a next gen console? I knew what I was getting, the next generation of the PlayStation. Some people thought they were buying a "Next-Gen" super computer for $400, apparently.

 

In any case, as long as these games are still designed for last gen consoles your not going to see anything "next gen". I've decided not to buy any game that's also being designed for the 360 and PS3 as I know the games won't be as good as they should have been.

 

If I were you I'd just go ahead and sell it. I don't know what your idea of next gen is, but we're not going to see anything that we haven't seen before. Bigger and better maybe, for consoles at least, but still nothing amazing or revolutionary. If your not the type of person who just enjoys playing games on a console then there's no point in owning one.

 

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As for Destiny, it left a huge feeling of "meh" in me. Borderlands is a pretty fair comparison. It's nice that you can customize your character and collect better armor, but when it comes down to gameplay I'd rather just play Borderlands.

  CrazKanuk

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7/24/14 12:15:58 PM#24
Originally posted by Telil

I'm actually sitting here at work because I cant wait to finish to have another go.

Reason = because its just like a lot of other games I have already played. Loved Halo, this game plays the same.

Love FPS games, this plays like one.

Love exploration, found plenty to do so far.

Love a tough game, hmm not so tough but there are tough mobs I have came across and I am hoping once it's released we will see more hidden mobs etc.

I agree with this, but as far as toughness goes, that's at least something that can be scaled. There are already different difficulty levels build into Fireteams, etc. I think it can be increased if necessary. I see the multiplayer as an opportunity to make a game that is much tougher than a solo experience. Whether or not they do that? idk. 

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  Grimfargo

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7/24/14 12:24:03 PM#25

I am having a blast in Alpha and now in Beta. I upgraded my "normal" version to a digital deluxe version, cause I really like this game.

We just saw a glimpse of the story and I cant wait to see what is going to come in future updates.

  nbtscan

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7/24/14 12:28:56 PM#26

I simply just cannot play a FPS on a console.  Some of the opinions I'm hearing doesn't make it sound like the "second coming" either.

I think this game will do a good job of enticing the CoD players (because they probably want something new and different) and the Borderlands players.  (because it seems to be very similar in nature)  I'll give this game a try probably whenever they decide to release it for PC.

  laserit

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7/24/14 1:19:46 PM#27

Time will tell how well received this game is after release.

 

I could never play it on a console because quite frankly, I suck with a controller. To the person who said that the newer generation consoles support a mouse and keyboard, the older generation does too. The question is whether or not, the game developer will support mouse and keyboard.

 

As far as the next-gen consoles go, pretty much the only thing they have over the older generation when it comes down to it is the ability to antialias and perform better graphically. Graphics are what take the vast majority of that horsepower and you get a decent amount of it for the price point.

You won't see any kind of revolution in gaming that the older generation console is incapable of doing.

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  Tyggs

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7/24/14 1:29:38 PM#28
Originally posted by laserit

Time will tell how well received this game is after release.

 

I could never play it on a console because quite frankly, I suck with a controller. To the person who said that the newer generation consoles support a mouse and keyboard, the older generation does too. The question is whether or not, the game developer will support mouse and keyboard.

 

As far as the next-gen consoles go, pretty much the only thing they have over the older generation when it comes down to it is the ability to antialias and perform better graphically. Graphics are what take the vast majority of that horsepower and you get a decent amount of it for the price point.

You won't see any kind of revolution in gaming that the older generation console is incapable of doing.

Agreed, but we aren't seeing much more innovation in PC gaming either. I love playing games on both (blasphemy I know), but some games are just better when relaxing on my couch looking at the big screen.

  Foobarx

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7/24/14 1:33:36 PM#29

Was so expecting to see...

 

  laserit

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7/24/14 1:49:42 PM#30
Originally posted by Tyggs
Originally posted by laserit

Time will tell how well received this game is after release.

 

I could never play it on a console because quite frankly, I suck with a controller. To the person who said that the newer generation consoles support a mouse and keyboard, the older generation does too. The question is whether or not, the game developer will support mouse and keyboard.

 

As far as the next-gen consoles go, pretty much the only thing they have over the older generation when it comes down to it is the ability to antialias and perform better graphically. Graphics are what take the vast majority of that horsepower and you get a decent amount of it for the price point.

You won't see any kind of revolution in gaming that the older generation console is incapable of doing.

Agreed, but we aren't seeing much more innovation in PC gaming either. I love playing games on both (blasphemy I know), but some games are just better when relaxing on my couch looking at the big screen.

Absolutely 

 

For me the big downside of consoles is the close endedness of them along with the "exclusives" bullshit. Too bad you can't slap a game from a PC, Xbox, Wii, PS4 or Steambox and slap it into another system and base your purchase decision on performance and system design alone.

 

 

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  ThumbtackJ

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7/24/14 1:57:05 PM#31
Originally posted by nbtscan

I simply just cannot play a FPS on a console. 

Same here. Controller just doesn't feel good when playing a FPS. Not to mention the 30FPS will kill it for me.

 

So here's to hoping we get a PC version eventually.

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  rojoArcueid

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7/24/14 2:00:36 PM#32
Originally posted by Stizzled
Originally posted by rojoArcueid
 

Why did you buy a next gen console? I knew what I was getting, the next generation of the PlayStation. Some people thought they were buying a "Next-Gen" super computer for $400, apparently.

 

In any case, as long as these games are still designed for last gen consoles your not going to see anything "next gen". I've decided not to buy any game that's also being designed for the 360 and PS3 as I know the games won't be as good as they should have been.

 

If I were you I'd just go ahead and sell it. I don't know what your idea of next gen is, but we're not going to see anything that we haven't seen before. Bigger and better maybe, for consoles at least, but still nothing amazing or revolutionary. If your not the type of person who just enjoys playing games on a console then there's no point in owning one.

 

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As for Destiny, it left a huge feeling of "meh" in me. Borderlands is a pretty fair comparison. It's nice that you can customize your character and collect better armor, but when it comes down to gameplay I'd rather just play Borderlands.

i knew what i was getting. I knew i was getting a new console that is powerful enough to handle superior features. Your assumption is wrong. I have my gaming PC for those extra pixels. But many companies seem to be treating the new consoles just like you said, some kind of super computer to for $400 to show off some cool graphics. I dont really care about Console graphics because i know the games will look good on a newer machine, but making a new console that is superior to its previous version doesnt mean its only have to look prettier... Games are supossed to run better (nope.... 30fps for you too), they are supossed to have new and/or improved features (nope, same old generation crap for you too). So why make a more advanced console if devs still have the old gen in mind?

 

I personally am enjoying some parts of Destiny more than Borderlands. I played both Borderland games and couldnt finish either one. But i do agree with many people that the repetitive missions in Destiny are meh. Dedicated console players might not care much, but us multi platform players that know how meh mmos are with the same boring repetitive content arent going to be very pleased if thats all we are going to get.

  Stizzled

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7/24/14 2:32:42 PM#33
Originally posted by rojoArcueid

i knew what i was getting. I knew i was getting a new console that is powerful enough to handle superior features. Your assumption is wrong. I have my gaming PC for those extra pixels. But many companies seem to be treating the new consoles just like you said, some kind of super computer to for $400 to show off some cool graphics. I dont really care about Console graphics because i know the games will look good on a newer machine, but making a new console that is superior to its previous version doesnt mean its only have to look prettier... Games are supossed to run better (nope.... 30fps for you too), they are supossed to have new and/or improved features (nope, same old generation crap for you too). So why make a more advanced console if devs still have the old gen in mind?

 

I personally am enjoying some parts of Destiny more than Borderlands. I played both Borderland games and couldnt finish either one. But i do agree with many people that the repetitive missions in Destiny are meh. Dedicated console players might not care much, but us multi platform players that know how meh mmos are with the same boring repetitive content arent going to be very pleased if thats all we are going to get.

I didn't mean to imply that you thought you were buying a super computer, just that some people did. Poor choice of wording, my bad.

 

I guess I've just never been one to be bothered by frame rate that much. As long as it's not dipping into the low 20s or teens then I'm fine at 30 FPS. So far I've only seen WarThunder dipping like that, and that's not the fault of the hardware but of how poorly optimized their engine is for OpenGL.

 

I still don't know what new features you thought you were going to get. I can't think of any amazing feature that a PC can do that a PS4 or XB1 can't, and PC is about as "next gen" as you can get. It sounds to me like you weren't expecting more out of the console but instead you were expecting more out of game developers.

  psiic

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7/24/14 2:41:01 PM#34

I've been playing on the PS4  all of alpha all of beta and I totally disagree with the OP.

 

There is a lot more depth to Destiny than most people are giving it credit.  

 

To compare Destiny to Borderlands just makes me irate, there is very little comparison there.

 

I play a lot of games, pretty much every game. I get very bored, very distracted, very easy.  

 

Even now I am in Alpha testing on 3 games, CB testing on 4, and playing wildstar, swtor, gw2, firefall, and defiance. 

 

Oh and on the ps4 playing, FFXIV and warframe. 

 

Destiny holds my attention, which is saying a lot considering some of the amazing games I am in testing for right now.

 

Even knowing I will not be keeping my progress from beta, Destiny still pulls me to push the limits of the beta.

 

People who know me on here know I am overly critical of almost every game.

 

I spend a lot of time banned here because I am emotional, political, cynical, and an all around asshole.

 

I do not lemming, I do not hype a game that does not deserve it even it it means calling everyone else out as an idiot, lemming, and liar.

 

This time Destiny deserves the hype. For me Destiny gets 4 out of 5 stars, and for me that makes the game a must have.

 

I also suggest using the destiny companion app even if you have to install it to your pc with bluestacks.

 

 

  Mirathel

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Joined: 4/25/08
Posts: 83

7/24/14 4:35:27 PM#35
Originally posted by allday88
Yes we will have the PC elitist run Destiny through the mud, at least we won't have the Sony Ponies playing their game in super slow motion frame by frame next to a xb1 in a desperate attempt to notice a graphic difference.  Boy am I glad the Sony ponies sad desperate attempt to justify their purchase is over...both at 1080!

Honestly if you think just because the Xbox One is 100 cheaper and without the kinect (which sucked 10% more GPU power) that makes the system better than or even equal to a PS4 you sir are the one thats the pony. Just saying the facts are out there. Developers including Bungie have stated its hard to get 60fps on a Xbone at 1080p and most have to "compromise". Thats sad...

  Stizzled

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Posts: 1081

Kill Your Heroes

7/24/14 5:39:40 PM#36
Originally posted by psiic

I've been playing on the PS4  all of alpha all of beta and I totally disagree with the OP.

There is a lot more depth to Destiny than most people are giving it credit.  

To compare Destiny to Borderlands just makes me irate, there is very little comparison there.

I play a lot of games, pretty much every game. I get very bored, very distracted, very easy.  

Even now I am in Alpha testing on 3 games, CB testing on 4, and playing wildstar, swtor, gw2, firefall, and defiance. 

Oh and on the ps4 playing, FFXIV and warframe. 

Destiny holds my attention, which is saying a lot considering some of the amazing games I am in testing for right now.

Even knowing I will not be keeping my progress from beta, Destiny still pulls me to push the limits of the beta.

People who know me on here know I am overly critical of almost every game.

I spend a lot of time banned here because I am emotional, political, cynical, and an all around asshole.

I do not lemming, I do not hype a game that does not deserve it even it it means calling everyone else out as an idiot, lemming, and liar.

This time Destiny deserves the hype. For me Destiny gets 4 out of 5 stars, and for me that makes the game a must have.

I also suggest using the destiny companion app even if you have to install it to your pc with bluestacks.

So, what's wrong with the Borderlands comparison? It makes you irate, but you don't explain why. Why does Destiny deserve the hype? What about it is so amazing and great? The instanced, small map, PvP? The well written, but ultimately pointless story? The random encounters that we MMO players have seen done over and over? The hub world design? What makes this game special? Don't sit here on MMORPG.com and try and pretend that this game is something we haven't seen before. There's nothing special about it. It may be exciting and new to hardcore console players, but it has a pointless shared world mutliplayer and is a pretty piss poor "MMO".

  Neo_Liberty

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Joined: 11/08/06
Posts: 437

7/24/14 5:57:29 PM#37
Originally posted by Stizzled
Originally posted by psiic

I've been playing on the PS4  all of alpha all of beta and I totally disagree with the OP.

There is a lot more depth to Destiny than most people are giving it credit.  

To compare Destiny to Borderlands just makes me irate, there is very little comparison there.

I play a lot of games, pretty much every game. I get very bored, very distracted, very easy.  

Even now I am in Alpha testing on 3 games, CB testing on 4, and playing wildstar, swtor, gw2, firefall, and defiance. 

Oh and on the ps4 playing, FFXIV and warframe. 

Destiny holds my attention, which is saying a lot considering some of the amazing games I am in testing for right now.

Even knowing I will not be keeping my progress from beta, Destiny still pulls me to push the limits of the beta.

People who know me on here know I am overly critical of almost every game.

I spend a lot of time banned here because I am emotional, political, cynical, and an all around asshole.

I do not lemming, I do not hype a game that does not deserve it even it it means calling everyone else out as an idiot, lemming, and liar.

This time Destiny deserves the hype. For me Destiny gets 4 out of 5 stars, and for me that makes the game a must have.

I also suggest using the destiny companion app even if you have to install it to your pc with bluestacks.

So, what's wrong with the Borderlands comparison? It makes you irate, but you don't explain why. Why does Destiny deserve the hype? What about it is so amazing and great? The instanced, small map, PvP? The well written, but ultimately pointless story? The random encounters that we MMO players have seen done over and over? The hub world design? What makes this game special? Don't sit here on MMORPG.com and try and pretend that this game is something we haven't seen before. There's nothing special about it. It may be exciting and new to hardcore console players, but it has a pointless shared world mutliplayer and is a pretty piss poor "MMO".

Too bad.. they never said it was an mmo.. and by your standards.. I'm pretty sure every mmo sucks.

  Stizzled

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Posts: 1081

Kill Your Heroes

7/24/14 6:06:05 PM#38
Originally posted by Neo_Liberty

Too bad.. they never said it was an mmo.. and by your standards.. I'm pretty sure every mmo sucks.

I can't disagree with you. As far as I'm aware, the dev theam never said it specifically was. And, I do think that most MMOs suck at being "MMOs". Maybe that's my fault, or maybe I just expect an MMO to actually be a Massively Multiplayer Online experience.

  Jockan

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Joined: 9/03/08
Posts: 4269

7/24/14 6:44:30 PM#39
Destiny is not even close to being as good as Halo. The game does not have a soul. Master Chief, Cortana, The Covenent and The Flood? This just cant compare. Yes, I am playing the PS4 beta and yes I have it preordered but its just a filler till Halo Collection launches in November and I wont even talk about Halo 5 Guardians because it would not even be fair.

  Neo_Liberty

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Joined: 11/08/06
Posts: 437

7/24/14 7:30:55 PM#40
Originally posted by Jockan
Destiny is not even close to being as good as Halo. The game does not have a soul. Master Chief, Cortana, The Covenent and The Flood? This just cant compare. Yes, I am playing the PS4 beta and yes I have it preordered but its just a filler till Halo Collection launches in November and I wont even talk about Halo 5 Guardians because it would not even be fair.

Yeah.. just depends on your tastes.. I never liked halo, but I love Destiny.

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