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  BillMurphy

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OP  7/18/14 1:24:32 PM#1

Not only is ESO proving to have retained nearly 800,000 subscribers through June, but apparently SWTOR, LotRO, and TERA (even Lineage) are all doing quite well as well according to new research from SuperData. Read on for details. 

As GameIndustry.biz reports on the research:

Star Wars: The Old Republic remains one of the top five subscription MMOs in the world, according to new research from SuperData.

EA's ambitious MMO, which launched with a subs-only model but eventually integrated freemium options, made $165 million in revenue worldwide last year. That figure is from subscriptions, expansion packs and microtransactions, and it makes Bioware's MMO the fourth biggest in the world in terms of earnings.

As expected, Blizzard's World of Warcraft remains the global leader by a wide margin, with just over $1 billion in revenue. The first game in NCSoft's Lineage series was a distant second with $253 million in revenue - a truly remarkable amount given that it was launched in 1998. Indeed, NCSoft games occupied four of the top ten.

See the charts below for subscription info.  What's more interesting though is what came out about ESO and WildStar so far (though it's admittedly early).

 WILDSTAR AND ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE CHALLENGE STATUS QUO

When Bethesda Softworks released Elder Scrolls Online, the industry took notice as the publisher fearlessly announced a subscription model, rather than going free-to-play like its direct competitor Guild Wars 2(NCsoft). So far, a subscriber base of 772,374 (June) indicates that its strategy is working. And perhaps its because of this that NCsoft released its own subscription-based title, Wildstar, over one month ago. As the initial purchase included a free first month, NCsoft is about to find out how strong the demand for sci-fi action really is. Traditionally, sci-fi styled MMOs tend to generate three times as much in monthly revenue compared to fantasy-based titles. And the early signs are good. According to Carbine, the game has so far seen “four to five times” as many concurrent users than during its open beta stage. Combined with NCsoft’s expertise, having four titles in the worldwide top 10 for subscription-based MMOs last year, Wildstar is a strong contender in the current market.”

Definitely some intriguing numbers, and strong hints that maybe the sub model isn't going anywhere... yet.

  Distopia

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7/18/14 1:27:57 PM#2

LOL now it's 800,000...

It's like a game of telephone

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  Gdemami

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7/18/14 1:29:25 PM#3


Originally posted by Distopia

LOL now it's 800,000...

It's like a game of telephone


"nearly 800,000 subscribers"

Hard to read?

  ryvendark

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7/18/14 1:33:00 PM#4
Tera is number three ? Can't say I saw that coming.
  Loktofeit

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7/18/14 1:33:06 PM#5

Post stuff like that and you're going to make some heads explode, Bill. 

Get ready for some of the old classics to arrive:

  • "They're paid to give those numbers."
  • "I left and my five friends left. So when they're losing people like crazy,it's obvious those numbers are false."
  • "My best guess is it's far lower than those made up numbers."
 

 

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  Shaigh

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7/18/14 1:33:59 PM#6
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Definitely some intriguing numbers, and strong hints that maybe the sub model isn't going anywhere... yet.

 

 

Bill, if you look at the listed games you should know that Lineage 1, tera online, swtor, lotro and rift are all f2p games. Aion is sub in korea and f2p everywhere else, blade&soul is sub in korea and japan, but f2p in china. They even mention that guild wars 2 is a free-to-play game while its a b2p game.

  Distopia

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7/18/14 1:34:28 PM#7
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Distopia

LOL now it's 800,000...

 

It's like a game of telephone


 

"nearly 800,000 subscribers"

Hard to read?

No, I know exactly what they meant, I just like how the actual figure began at under 773K and grew to 775K now the headline number is 800k, This is how telephone works, hence the joke and comparison... next it will be over 800k subs! Maybe other schools didn't play that game in 1st grade :)

Does every post have to be serious btw?

 

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  Nadia

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7/18/14 1:34:31 PM#8

Zenimax remains quiet

 

meanwhile google analytics show both ESO and Wildstar to be comparable for continued interest

https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%2Fm%2F0jt2y_q%2C%20%2Fm%2F064ln09%2C%20Wildstar&date=6%2F2013%2014m&cmpt=q

 

  ThumbtackJ

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7/18/14 1:38:21 PM#9

Wow, 4 of those are from NCSoft, so props to them I suppose. Figures WoW would still be number one, it'll be a long while (if ever perhaps) before that beast is toppled. 

 

Also, way to go for TERA for being number 3 (though I imagine most of that is from its eastern market). I really enjoyed my time from 1-60 on my Zerker, and the game has some of the best action combat in an MMO (perhaps equal to or better than Neverwinter's, IMO). 

 

Anyways, if the figures are indeed true, then good for ZOS/TESO. I'm glad they're doing well and hope they continue to do so and that the players remain happy consumers. I know at times it seems like people (especially gamers) love to see things fall apart and fail, almost as if they found some sort of pleasure out of it. I've never been one for that sort of thinking. So if ZOS is doing good, and the people who play are happy, then that's awesome to me, even if the game isn't my cup of tea.

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  ryvendark

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7/18/14 1:38:46 PM#10
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Distopia

LOL now it's 800,000...

 

It's like a game of telephone


 

"nearly 800,000 subscribers"

Hard to read?

No, I know exactly what they meant, I just like how the actual figure began at under 774K and grew to 750K now the headline number is 800k, This is how telephone works, hence the joke and comparison... next it will be over 800k subs! Maybe other schools didn't play that game in 1st grade :)

Does every post have to be serious btw?

 

Every post on there has to be dead serious. What you think this stuff is a game ? :)

btw 774k can't grow to 750 /grin

  Leiloni

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7/18/14 1:39:39 PM#11
Originally posted by Shaigh
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Definitely some intriguing numbers, and strong hints that maybe the sub model isn't going anywhere... yet.

 

 

Bill, if you look at the listed games you should know that Lineage 1, tera online, swtor, lotro and rift are all f2p games. Aion is sub in korea and f2p everywhere else, blade&soul is sub in korea and japan, but f2p in china. They even mention that guild wars 2 is a free-to-play game while its a b2p game.

You failed to read their definition of P2P MMO, listed right under that Top 10 list. Those games all fit this description since they all have optional subscriptions along with microtransactions.

 

"defined as Massively multiplayer online games that earn revenue from subscriptions, expansion packs, and microtransactions based virtual items and services (e.g. experience boosts, items, mounts and server transfer fees."

 

Originally posted by ryvendark
Tera is number three ? Can't say I saw that coming.

It's not really surprising considering TERA is out in 5, soon to be 6 regions (NA, EU, KR, JP, CN, and soon RU). BHS, TERA's developer, is also currently working on 2 new MMO's as well as a TERA related mobile game. TERA itself will soon raise the level cap in a big expansion being released in Korea on Wednesday. It's a high quality game that has consisently introduced new content over the past three years and continued to expand it's playerbase via successful region launches and a successful F2P model. 

  Distopia

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7/18/14 1:42:58 PM#12
Originally posted by ryvendark
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Gdemami

 


Originally posted by Distopia

LOL now it's 800,000...

 

It's like a game of telephone


 

"nearly 800,000 subscribers"

Hard to read?

No, I know exactly what they meant, I just like how the actual figure began at under 774K and grew to 750K now the headline number is 800k, This is how telephone works, hence the joke and comparison... next it will be over 800k subs! Maybe other schools didn't play that game in 1st grade :)

Does every post have to be serious btw?

 

Every post on there has to be dead serious. What you think this stuff is a game ? :)

btw 774k can't grow to 750 /grin

OOps mistype. 775k is what I meant to type. and it actually began at around 772k, lol. Better stop making up numbers lol.

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  Herzy

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7/18/14 1:44:05 PM#13
Originally posted by ryvendark
Tera is number three ? Can't say I saw that coming.

Me neither. It must be all elin.

  Stellus

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7/18/14 1:44:23 PM#14
Revenue, sure. But how much of it is profit? Running an MMO and staffing people to make new content is not cheap.
  Reklaw

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7/18/14 1:47:15 PM#15
Originally posted by Loktofeit

Post stuff like that and you're going to make some heads explode, Bill. 

Get ready for some of the old classics to arrive:

  • "They're paid to give those numbers."
  • "I left and my five friends left. So when they're losing people like crazy,it's obvious those numbers are false."
  • "My best guess is it's far lower than those made up numbers."
 

 

You just made my "forum" day...... hehe

  Crusades

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7/18/14 1:48:03 PM#16
WOW way on top of the list but eso gaining momentum. World of Warcraft is doing pretty good compared to those other games. It's got 36% of the market share, Lineage is the next closest with only 9%. This isn't even peak season for World of Warcraft. World of Warcraft is really quite remarkable.
  Distopia

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7/18/14 1:48:09 PM#17
I'm actually surprised it's doing as well in sales on Steam with all of the bad word of mouth on it, been in the top 3 since it was put up. 50% off certainly helps a I suppose.

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  ryvendark

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7/18/14 1:49:30 PM#18
Originally posted by Leiloni
 

 

Originally posted by ryvendark
Tera is number three ? Can't say I saw that coming.

It's not really surprising considering TERA is out in 5, soon to be 6 regions (NA, EU, KR, JP, CN, and soon RU). BHS, TERA's developer, is also currently working on 2 new MMO's as well as a TERA related mobile game. TERA itself will soon raise the level cap in a big expansion being released in Korea on Wednesday. It's a high quality game that has consisently introduced new content over the past three years and continued to expand it's playerbase via successful region launches and a successful F2P model. 

I have 4 60s I think and love the game when I'm not bored :). Part of my post was sarcastic because of how much hate the game gets here, but I was legitimately surprised to see it doing so well too. The servers are always full of people and enMasse has done an outstanding job running the NA part but you never really know how good or bad a game is doing from just playing it.

I'm really looking forward to part two.

  ryvendark

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7/18/14 1:52:12 PM#19
Originally posted by Loktofeit

Post stuff like that and you're going to make some heads explode, Bill. 

Get ready for some of the old classics to arrive:

  • "They're paid to give those numbers."
  • "I left and my five friends left. So when they're losing people like crazy,it's obvious those numbers are false."
  • "My best guess is it's far lower than those made up numbers."
 

 

93 million....you should ask for a raise.

  Shaigh

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7/18/14 1:54:43 PM#20
Originally posted by Leiloni
Originally posted by Shaigh
Originally posted by BillMurphy

Definitely some intriguing numbers, and strong hints that maybe the sub model isn't going anywhere... yet.

 

 

Bill, if you look at the listed games you should know that Lineage 1, tera online, swtor, lotro and rift are all f2p games. Aion is sub in korea and f2p everywhere else, blade&soul is sub in korea and japan, but f2p in china. They even mention that guild wars 2 is a free-to-play game while its a b2p game.

You failed to read their definition of P2P MMO, listed right under that Top 10 list. Those games all fit this description since they all have optional subscriptions along with microtransactions.

 

"defined as Massively multiplayer online games that earn revenue from subscriptions, expansion packs, and microtransactions based virtual items and services (e.g. experience boosts, items, mounts and server transfer fees."

I read their definitions, which is exactly why their top 10 list and their analysis of P2P-market is garbage. The whole industry considers a game like swtor f2p, and not a p2p game like superdata is stating.

 

Their home made definitions doesn't change the fact that Lineage 1, tera online, swtor, lotro and rift are f2p games.

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