Trending Games | Elder Scrolls Online | Elsword | Crowfall | Guild Wars 2

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,931,709 Users Online:0
Games:764  Posts:6,342,016
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online AD2460 ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord 2 Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crowfall Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GRAV GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods Rush Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online Kill Strain King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lords of the Fallen 2 Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Banner Saga 2 The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

ArcheAge

ArcheAge 

General Discussion  » My take on ArcheAge after playing

5 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 » Search
91 posts found
  Eir_S

Novice Member

Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4707

GW2 socialist.

7/14/14 9:55:15 PM#41
Originally posted by dandurin
Originally posted by Eir_S
Another game where people are telling you that you have to get to a certain level before you can start having fun.  Great.  Terrific.  And it's ONLY level 30!  Also, the combat does look pretty bad.  I'd probably agree with the OP, but since it's f2p I'll give it a try.

Personally, that's statement only rings true for PVP.

 

For other sandbox elements, the game takes off in the teens, right after the 2 hour combat demo that 1-10 represents.

Well if that's true, it's good news for me at least since the sandbox elements are why I'm interested in the game at all anymore because the action and leveling just looks tacked on.  Isn't 2 hours a bit much though?  The combat doesn't seem very deep.

  dandurin

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/19/04
Posts: 482

7/14/14 9:55:19 PM#42
Originally posted by Wraithstar
Originally posted by dandurin
....

I'm suspicious of how true this is in situations other than 1 on 1.  I'm not saying certain combos aren't OP, I'm just thinking there's a lot of groupthink that gets propagated.  Besides the OP classes are always next up for the nerf bat.

Im in the pirate guild Shots fired. I`m almost always in a group.

Well I certainly respect your experience then.

That said, aren't they in the process of raising TTK?  Seems like it would be a wise move given no one wants to be killed under stun-lock.

  Ramanadjinn

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/08/11
Posts: 1317

7/14/14 9:57:45 PM#43
Originally posted by dandurin
 
....

They boast about having 120!! Different class combos (which isn`t a lie) but there are about 8 combos that are actually useful or good, when it comes to pvp, all you see is, Primeval (archer), Darkrunner(2H Rogue type), Templars (paladin type), pure healers and daggerspell (glass cannon mage), and there is no time to kill, the PvP is purely about who can stun first and 1 shot first. PvP needs a lot of work.

I`m currently a level 50 primeval.

I'm suspicious of how true this is in situations other than 1 on 1.  I'm not saying certain combos aren't OP, I'm just thinking there's a lot of groupthink that gets propagated.  Besides the OP classes are always next up for the nerf bat.

 

I don't think its true at all.  I could probably name 9 or 10 viable melee builds off the top of my head.  We do see a lot of Primevals but its not because they are the most OP or only viable class.  I think it is group think as you say. 

I've seen a lot of people saying how daggerspell is viable now after 1.2.  yet it wasn't really buffed that much from the previous version.  I was doing the same things before the patch on my daggerspell as I do after the patch and having just as much success.

Everyone plays Primevals and darkrunners.  But those builds aren't really any better than Bastions and Hexblades.  Stone Arrows, Shadowknights, Shadowblades, Doomlords, Eidolons, Blade Dancers, Dreambreakers.. People are playing these other builds and doing great.  They are perfectly viable.

  dandurin

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/19/04
Posts: 482

7/14/14 10:00:56 PM#44
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by dandurin
Originally posted by Eir_S
Another game where people are telling you that you have to get to a certain level before you can start having fun.  Great.  Terrific.  And it's ONLY level 30!  Also, the combat does look pretty bad.  I'd probably agree with the OP, but since it's f2p I'll give it a try.

Personally, that's statement only rings true for PVP.

 

For other sandbox elements, the game takes off in the teens, right after the 2 hour combat demo that 1-10 represents.

Well if that's true, it's good news for me at least since the sandbox elements are why I'm interested in the game at all anymore because the action and leveling just looks tacked on.  Isn't 2 hours a bit much though?  The combat doesn't seem very deep.

Keep in mind that you pick one power set at 1, one at 5 and one at 10.  Kinda big decisions to make.

 

If I had a bunch of alts I might find that 2 hours dreary, but on my first toon the hand-holding tutorial stuff was useful.

 

At around 11 you get your first Blue Salt Brotherhood quest and your garden scarecrow.   That's a huge step.   Not long after is the legendary banana run for the large farm, which is a massive game-changer.  Be bold like me and do it in your row boat!  ;o)

  Wraithstar

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/11/10
Posts: 64

7/14/14 10:05:44 PM#45
Originally posted by dandurin
Originally posted by Wraithstar
Originally posted by dandurin
....

I'm suspicious of how true this is in situations other than 1 on 1.  I'm not saying certain combos aren't OP, I'm just thinking there's a lot of groupthink that gets propagated.  Besides the OP classes are always next up for the nerf bat.

Im in the pirate guild Shots fired. I`m almost always in a group.

Well I certainly respect your experience then.

That said, aren't they in the process of raising TTK?  Seems like it would be a wise move given no one wants to be killed under stun-lock.

Yeah they are in the process of raiding TTK and im crazy excited for it but as it stands its just a 1 shot fest. even full tanks are capable of being killed in a matter of seconds, by ranged no, but a darkrunner will split a tank open like a tin can.

  Wraithstar

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/11/10
Posts: 64

7/14/14 10:09:24 PM#46
Originally posted by Ramanadjinn
Originally posted by dandurin
 
....

They boast about having 120!! Different class combos (which isn`t a lie) but there are about 8 combos that are actually useful or good, when it comes to pvp, all you see is, Primeval (archer), Darkrunner(2H Rogue type), Templars (paladin type), pure healers and daggerspell (glass cannon mage), and there is no time to kill, the PvP is purely about who can stun first and 1 shot first. PvP needs a lot of work.

I`m currently a level 50 primeval.

I'm suspicious of how true this is in situations other than 1 on 1.  I'm not saying certain combos aren't OP, I'm just thinking there's a lot of groupthink that gets propagated.  Besides the OP classes are always next up for the nerf bat.

 

I don't think its true at all.  I could probably name 9 or 10 viable melee builds off the top of my head.  We do see a lot of Primevals but its not because they are the most OP or only viable class.  I think it is group think as you say. 

I've seen a lot of people saying how daggerspell is viable now after 1.2.  yet it wasn't really buffed that much from the previous version.  I was doing the same things before the patch on my daggerspell as I do after the patch and having just as much success.

Everyone plays Primevals and darkrunners.  But those builds aren't really any better than Bastions and Hexblades.  Stone Arrows, Shadowknights, Shadowblades, Doomlords, Eidolons, Blade Dancers, Dreambreakers.. People are playing these other builds and doing great.  They are perfectly viable.

You`re right other build DO WORK but only vs specific types but the common class choices work against multiple diff types. take stone arrows for example (Tanky archer, for those who don`t know) are really only good against primevals, but against any other class they will almost certainly get beat, whereas my Primeval can fight a plethera of difference class combos and consistantly come out the victor.

  DMKano

Elite Member

Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 6818

7/14/14 10:15:13 PM#47
Originally posted by Wraithstar
Originally posted by dandurin
Originally posted by Wraithstar
Originally posted by dandurin
....

I'm suspicious of how true this is in situations other than 1 on 1.  I'm not saying certain combos aren't OP, I'm just thinking there's a lot of groupthink that gets propagated.  Besides the OP classes are always next up for the nerf bat.

Im in the pirate guild Shots fired. I`m almost always in a group.

Well I certainly respect your experience then.

That said, aren't they in the process of raising TTK?  Seems like it would be a wise move given no one wants to be killed under stun-lock.

Yeah they are in the process of raiding TTK and im crazy excited for it but as it stands its just a 1 shot fest. even full tanks are capable of being killed in a matter of seconds, by ranged no, but a darkrunner will split a tank open like a tin can.

Found a good Shots Fired Darkrunner PvP video - for those interested in epic PvP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux2YMz5SOBU

The OranThul ending made me laugh

  Ramanadjinn

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/08/11
Posts: 1317

7/14/14 10:15:17 PM#48
Originally posted by Wraithstar
Originally posted by Ramanadjinn
Originally posted by dandurin
 
 

You`re right other build DO WORK but only vs specific types but the common class choices work against multiple diff types. take stone arrows for example (Tanky archer, for those who don`t know) are really only good against primevals, but against any other class they will almost certainly get beat, whereas my Primeval can fight a plethera of difference class combos and consistantly come out the victor.

 

I think you and I are just going to disagree on this one.

Take a Bastion for instance.  When a hexblade gets you locked down in an imprison you're probably toast.  Granted if you're a good player, and I believe you if you say you are, that will rarely happen.  But when it does the Bastion can still come out on top and your primeval likely will be toast.  The bastion isn't especially weak in other fights either.

Primeval has a lot of advantages, but a skilled player playing a stone arrow can be just as viable in 1v1 fights.  I am of the opinion when talking about specs like Primeval vs Bastion vs Stone arrow the main difference in how they perform is going to be the skill/knowledge of the person playing it.

  Bad.dog

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/20/10
Posts: 1159

7/15/14 2:32:08 PM#49
Originally posted by Eir_S
Another game where people are telling you that you have to get to a certain level before you can start having fun.  Great.  Terrific.  And it's ONLY level 30!  Also, the combat does look pretty bad.  I'd probably agree with the OP, but since it's f2p I'll give it a try.

I think you'll be really surprised at how good the combat is ....just don't base too much on 4hrs and 20 levels like the op did

  negativf4kk

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/25/12
Posts: 376

7/15/14 3:48:22 PM#50
Originally posted by Ramanadjinn
Originally posted by Wraithstar
Originally posted by Ramanadjinn
Originally posted by dandurin
 
 

You`re right other build DO WORK but only vs specific types but the common class choices work against multiple diff types. take stone arrows for example (Tanky archer, for those who don`t know) are really only good against primevals, but against any other class they will almost certainly get beat, whereas my Primeval can fight a plethera of difference class combos and consistantly come out the victor.

 

I think you and I are just going to disagree on this one.

Take a Bastion for instance.  When a hexblade gets you locked down in an imprison you're probably toast.  Granted if you're a good player, and I believe you if you say you are, that will rarely happen.  But when it does the Bastion can still come out on top and your primeval likely will be toast.  The bastion isn't especially weak in other fights either.

Primeval has a lot of advantages, but a skilled player playing a stone arrow can be just as viable in 1v1 fights.  I am of the opinion when talking about specs like Primeval vs Bastion vs Stone arrow the main difference in how they perform is going to be the skill/knowledge of the person playing it.

every class in AA has its anti-class, on top of that classes that are strong in 1vs1 having hard time in group pvp, also dont forget the amount of weapon choices u get, also combos between classes. PvP is extreme fun when u got couple of specs and classes to play with. 

<a href="http://www.danasoft.com"><img src="http://www.danasoft.com/sig/499105419258.jpg" border="0"></a><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px;"><p>Sign by Danasoft - <a href="http://www.danasoft.com">For Backgrounds and Layouts</a></p></div>

  Ramanadjinn

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/08/11
Posts: 1317

7/15/14 4:03:22 PM#51
Originally posted by negativf4kk
 

every class in AA has its anti-class, on top of that classes that are strong in 1vs1 having hard time in group pvp, also dont forget the amount of weapon choices u get, also combos between classes. PvP is extreme fun when u got couple of specs and classes to play with. 

 

I can't agree that every class has a counter.  Daggerspells for instance dont' have a strong counter.  There are more than a handful of classes that you can take to a 1v1 arena and know that no matter what you come up against, if they have relatively equal gear and skill you have a fair chance of winning.  From my time in 1v1 and watching others 1v1 I feel some classes are countered by others, and some are just generally strong 1v1.

I think the notion of counterclasses is something that just isn't as strong in Archeage as some games.  Probably because everyone has the option of picking 2nd or 3rd class that minimizes the weaknesses of their main focus.

I do agree with the rest of what you say.  A skullknight for instance is probably one of the top if not the absolute top group pvp spec but can have a hard time in 1v1 play.

  Tyggs

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/07/14
Posts: 322

7/15/14 4:08:12 PM#52
If a game isn't fun from level 1, in my opinion the developers failed. Games are played for entertainment. If you are not entertained from login, the game is failing at its sole purpose. I may just stick to Destiny this weekend...
  negativf4kk

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/25/12
Posts: 376

7/16/14 2:03:47 PM#53
Originally posted by Ramanadjinn
Originally posted by negativf4kk
 

every class in AA has its anti-class, on top of that classes that are strong in 1vs1 having hard time in group pvp, also dont forget the amount of weapon choices u get, also combos between classes. PvP is extreme fun when u got couple of specs and classes to play with. 

 

I can't agree that every class has a counter.  Daggerspells for instance dont' have a strong counter.  There are more than a handful of classes that you can take to a 1v1 arena and know that no matter what you come up against, if they have relatively equal gear and skill you have a fair chance of winning.  From my time in 1v1 and watching others 1v1 I feel some classes are countered by others, and some are just generally strong 1v1.

I think the notion of counterclasses is something that just isn't as strong in Archeage as some games.  Probably because everyone has the option of picking 2nd or 3rd class that minimizes the weaknesses of their main focus.

I do agree with the rest of what you say.  A skullknight for instance is probably one of the top if not the absolute top group pvp spec but can have a hard time in 1v1 play.

Apostel or Builder will do as anti-class for Daggerspells. Anyway i was very surprised how much group pvp in AA depends on right tactics and people in a group cordinating their classes. 

<a href="http://www.danasoft.com"><img src="http://www.danasoft.com/sig/499105419258.jpg" border="0"></a><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px;"><p>Sign by Danasoft - <a href="http://www.danasoft.com">For Backgrounds and Layouts</a></p></div>

  SEANMCAD

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 3/22/09
Posts: 5327

 
OP  7/16/14 2:05:16 PM#54
Originally posted by Tyggs
If a game isn't fun from level 1, in my opinion the developers failed. Games are played for entertainment. If you are not entertained from login, the game is failing at its sole purpose. I may just stick to Destiny this weekend...

this

Correlation does not imply causation

  User Deleted
7/17/14 8:13:10 AM#55
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Tyggs
If a game isn't fun from level 1, in my opinion the developers failed. Games are played for entertainment. If you are not entertained from login, the game is failing at its sole purpose. I may just stick to Destiny this weekend...

this

 

WoW's  as bad in vanilla, Neverwinter the same,Lineage 2 was pretty bad, EQ 1 threw you out into the world with no clues what to do, SWG had a tutorial then go hf,etc,etc,etc. Not saying it is the right way but nor should a vestal virgin come to you upon login to guide you and offer pleasures to make you cream your pants.

  Mothanos

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/20/10
Posts: 1890

7/17/14 9:44:11 AM#56


Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Here is my take on ArcheAge using a point system.The majority of the items are just my view point and in fact some items others might give a +1 instead of a -1 but most of those are simply due to preference.+2 Can build ships +3 Ship Combat +2 Diving/underwater treasure hunting +3 Extensive crafting+2 Housing with meaning+3 seiges?-1 No realistically usable 1st person view-1 Tab targetting button mashing combat-1 combat popups kill immersion and makes it feel like I am playing an arcade game-1 Predictable standard mobs and static spawns-2 zones feel like zones, exploring doesnt ‘feel’ like its something you are supposed to be doing without an objective.-3 questing on mob quests gives considerably more XP reward than other methods.-2 despite graphics engine the game looks/feels like a game made for adolescent boys-3 Housing/Farming lots look completely ridiculous

 

In every single way (other than the items listed in + which are near in game features) the game feels and looks like a themepark.

Given the near end game features I would continue to play if there were not currently better options in the market place for such features.

 

rage on.


Strange most things you list as - i like.

Good we all have diffent tastes and your vieuw and nowhere near that of mine.

  Tyggs

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/07/14
Posts: 322

7/17/14 9:53:01 AM#57
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Tyggs
If a game isn't fun from level 1, in my opinion the developers failed. Games are played for entertainment. If you are not entertained from login, the game is failing at its sole purpose. I may just stick to Destiny this weekend...

this

 

WoW's  as bad in vanilla, Neverwinter the same,Lineage 2 was pretty bad, EQ 1 threw you out into the world with no clues what to do, SWG had a tutorial then go hf,etc,etc,etc. Not saying it is the right way but nor should a vestal virgin come to you upon login to guide you and offer pleasures to make you cream your pants.

Nobody asked for that. I just want to have fun while playing a game. I don't want to play a game to have fun at a later time. Makes no sense.

  Dilweed

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/17/04
Posts: 224

7/17/14 10:06:09 AM#58
Originally posted by Tyggs
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Tyggs
If a game isn't fun from level 1, in my opinion the developers failed. Games are played for entertainment. If you are not entertained from login, the game is failing at its sole purpose. I may just stick to Destiny this weekend...

this

 

WoW's  as bad in vanilla, Neverwinter the same,Lineage 2 was pretty bad, EQ 1 threw you out into the world with no clues what to do, SWG had a tutorial then go hf,etc,etc,etc. Not saying it is the right way but nor should a vestal virgin come to you upon login to guide you and offer pleasures to make you cream your pants.

Nobody asked for that. I just want to have fun while playing a game. I don't want to play a game to have fun at a later time. Makes no sense.

It makes sense for the people who actually need a tutorial

  Tyggs

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/07/14
Posts: 322

7/17/14 10:14:34 AM#59
Originally posted by Dilweed
Originally posted by Tyggs
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Tyggs
If a game isn't fun from level 1, in my opinion the developers failed. Games are played for entertainment. If you are not entertained from login, the game is failing at its sole purpose. I may just stick to Destiny this weekend...

this

 

WoW's  as bad in vanilla, Neverwinter the same,Lineage 2 was pretty bad, EQ 1 threw you out into the world with no clues what to do, SWG had a tutorial then go hf,etc,etc,etc. Not saying it is the right way but nor should a vestal virgin come to you upon login to guide you and offer pleasures to make you cream your pants.

Nobody asked for that. I just want to have fun while playing a game. I don't want to play a game to have fun at a later time. Makes no sense.

It makes sense for the people who actually need a tutorial

You're saying Tutorials can't be fun? TERA did a lot wrong, and I am not a fan of the game, but their tutorial rocked! Games need tutorials. No reason to not make it an awesome experience.

  SEANMCAD

Spotlight Poster

Joined: 3/22/09
Posts: 5327

 
OP  7/17/14 10:24:24 AM#60
Originally posted by Dilweed
Originally posted by Tyggs
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Tyggs
If a game isn't fun from level 1, in my opinion the developers failed. Games are played for entertainment. If you are not entertained from login, the game is failing at its sole purpose. I may just stick to Destiny this weekend...

this

 

WoW's  as bad in vanilla, Neverwinter the same,Lineage 2 was pretty bad, EQ 1 threw you out into the world with no clues what to do, SWG had a tutorial then go hf,etc,etc,etc. Not saying it is the right way but nor should a vestal virgin come to you upon login to guide you and offer pleasures to make you cream your pants.

Nobody asked for that. I just want to have fun while playing a game. I don't want to play a game to have fun at a later time. Makes no sense.

It makes sense for the people who actually need a tutorial

I found Darkfall and Wurm to be engaging and fun immediately.

To be fair, in wurm once you are settled on a home the progress becomes very slow.

Correlation does not imply causation

5 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 » Search