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News & Features Discussion  » Elder Scrolls Online: The Post-50 Experience to be Overhauled

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7/04/14 9:08:52 PM#41
Originally posted by Dreamo84
That might bring me back. I never got to 50 but knowing what a tough grind it was kinda steered me away from wanting to get there. We will see though... Ultimately the game just seems to focused on the end game gear grind much like FFXIV did. Which is a shame because they are both such beautiful and rich IPs with enjoyable combat for me.

If Wildstar didn't have housing I'd probably be feeling the same about that game.

i take it you dont like the grind in ESO and FFXIV but you do like it in Wildstar. By the Way the grind in WS is way more out of hand. Dont know about gear grind, but overall grind.


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7/04/14 11:29:03 PM#42
Originally posted by GolbezTheLion
Originally posted by Zefire
I really want to try this game anyone knows when it goes free to play or buy to play?

You're looking at a minimum of a year before either of those ideas will even begin to get tossed around.


Well QuakeCon is coming up in less than three weeks.  So it's possible to hear something sooner and I wouldn't be surprised if those ideas where already tossed around even before launch.  

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7/05/14 12:07:30 AM#43
This is why MMORPGs should be more challenging and encourage grouping from the beginning. If players are already conditioned to be able solo everything then there is no need to form social bonds, meaning no one will stick around for later content. So now they have to nerf it for the solo players that remained.

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7/05/14 3:31:12 AM#44



To me this game would need a FFXIV style overhaul to make it even somewhat desirable to play.


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7/05/14 3:35:47 AM#45

No plaease ...DO not make this game easier and more soloable.


Just EXPLAIN that VR levels wil be harder and may require you to Group up . Explain it at an early stage so players are prepared for it.

Whats up with folks that say that there is a grind at VR levels, there is only a grind if you Think the VR levels should take as long to level as the standard levels 1-50 did.

Every single game should get nerfed based on "solo players" , it's really annoying !!!


-These players won't stay for long, they will complete the VR levels then quit

As you said the VR levels should help you build Community and foster grouping.

And for the players that just wan't to PvP ..just do It , you do NOT need a VR12 characther for that. The only time you will need a VR12 characther in PVP is maybe solo PvP

Or maybe raise every characther to VR 12 as they enter Cyrodiil.




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7/05/14 4:41:44 AM#46
Phasing and requiring group play at 50+ VR content didn't work well in ESO. Now Zenimax took the easy way out (decreasing difficulty) unfortunately.
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7/05/14 5:00:52 AM#47

Blimey that was fast its only taken them three months to start dumbing the game down . Is that some sort of record ? 


Its so funny its tragic they actually think making the game easier is the key to make people come back . Have they not learned yet this should have been buy to play from the start ( with premium DLCS ). 


What a mess they have got themselves into through sheer greed and not being honest with themselves about what their product is worth . 


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7/05/14 5:43:23 AM#48

First major change influenced by losing subs.

Instead of totally changing their game design.. they'd be better off sticking to their vision and going ftp.


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7/05/14 5:54:26 AM#49
Originally posted by SBFord


 But we understand that, despite our vision, this is not how all our players want to experience the game


That statement is very telling imo.

I really like it when developers give us a game where we are allowed to just have fun and enjoy the game.  And a lot less when we have to follow their "vision" of how we should enjoy the game.

This sort of design philosophy where we just play it their way can work for first person shooters, side scrolling platformers, maybe even story driven RPGs to a point.

But MMORPGs not so much.

Is this company run by a buncha people who have been making facebook games the past decade?  


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7/05/14 6:07:46 AM#50
Originally posted by jacker1991

Ummm, more solo content in an MMORPG. Love it! :D

I never get people like you. Soloing is usually slower/more challenging than your usual carebear 5vs1 environment. If i want the challenge once in a while who are you to say otherwise? 


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7/05/14 8:41:17 AM#51
Originally posted by BailoPan15
Originally posted by jacker1991

Ummm, more solo content in an MMORPG. Love it! :D

I never get people like you. Soloing is usually slower/more challenging than your usual carebear 5vs1 environment. If i want the challenge once in a while who are you to say otherwise? 

Of course It's more challenging to solo content made for solo-ing , and if you do not want to end up solo an entire game , they should keep some parts that are required to have a Group to maintain a challenge for a Group.


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7/05/14 10:23:39 AM#52
This is hilarious, they should have opened thier eyes up a long time ago.

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7/05/14 4:19:00 PM#53
How about separate servers with two difficulty choices. Could that work with a mega server?

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7/05/14 11:30:15 PM#54

For the love of God... can people please quit comparing this game to Skyrim ffs?! It was never designed to be a Skyrim and nobody ever said it was going to be Skyrim online.  Honestly... Skyrim was friggen terrible as far as ES goes.  I'm glad it's not Skyrim.  Talk about easy... I don't think I died once playing through that game.  Sneaking around.. shooting everything up with a bow from a mile away.  Dragons were a joke.  They looked great.. but were pathetically easy to beat... which doesn't make sense.  And... OF COURSE the world looks so open and fantastic... it's a friggen single player game.  They don't have to worry about thousands of people being in the same area at the same time.  The damn game doesn't need to scale at all.  

I wish all you people talking about "this ain't skyrim" or "this ain't elder scrolls" would take an arrow to your knee. :)  


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7/05/14 11:47:11 PM#55
Originally posted by shane242
much much to late.

Pretty much. Sad. If they could have just taken it more seriously, game felt so amateur. Simple rookie mistakes.


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7/06/14 2:16:01 AM#56

Good to see.

Once i reach cap i know i can keep going and enjoyable the fantastic game world they created.

Better late than never ZOS.




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7/06/14 2:57:35 AM#57
Originally posted by SuperDonk
Originally posted by shane242
much much to late.

Pretty much. Sad. If they could have just taken it more seriously, game felt so amateur. Simple rookie mistakes.

4 months after launch is too late for an MMORPG?

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7/06/14 6:03:49 AM#58
Veteran zone and veteran quest... continuous repetition so boring

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7/07/14 4:35:35 AM#59

This is very good news for those who understand ESO and know that its not your typical MMO and that its more about the solo experience along with the occasionally group and PVP action if that is your thing and not your cookie cutter MMO that everyone is uset too.


Now keep in mind that its only been around 4 months so that is not too late lol for anything MMO wise and i am sure as ESO matures they will continue to make it more social but as of right now they need to stick to ESo's strong suit and at least keep the people who like it and understand this happy because those are the people that still play and are at vet levels so obviously they must be listening because alot of people have been asking for this for a while now.


Btw to the idiot that kept acting like solo is strange concept in MMOs wake up because there are plenty of people that play MMOs solo most of the time just for its PvE and main story and do not bother to be social much so remember not everyone wants or plays MMOs for same reasons you like too. Having said that i will say that i think a MMO should have a good balance of everything but if not at least do well at what the MMO does offer best because you can always still add whatever you want as MMO grows later on.


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7/07/14 4:39:54 AM#60
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by SuperDonk
Originally posted by shane242
much much to late.

Pretty much. Sad. If they could have just taken it more seriously, game felt so amateur. Simple rookie mistakes.

4 months after launch is too late for an MMORPG?

In todays environment it can be a hugely crippling factor to contend with, there are more and better games out there already, one of which just launched recently, and as usual, even more are 'incoming' is it too late, depends, is it too little too late is more the question

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