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News & Features Discussion  » [Column] Elder Scrolls Online: Is ESO Dying or Just Carving a Niche?

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  bcbully

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7/02/14 9:09:14 AM#21

The most popular mmorpg on the most popular mmorpg site, dying... 

 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Nadia

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7/02/14 9:14:40 AM#22
Originally posted by SBFord

Read more of Ryan Getchell's Elder Scrolls Online: Is ESO Dying or Just Carving a Niche?

ESO is a fantastic game, it has the best graphics that have ever been in a MMORPG, and the story lines far exceed any expectations that I had for it.

i havent tried ESO yet but likely will in the near future

i'm more interested in ESO than seeing the latest expansion of WOW

  Sovrath

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7/02/14 9:14:43 AM#23

They wanted the competition of End Game, they wanted a race to the finish line.

 

Let me guess, they wanted WoW?

  Matticus75

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7/02/14 9:17:14 AM#24
If a company wants to keep a good game going, then they will need to innovate, they do not do that, MMOs are scamish nowadays
  Soandsoso

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7/02/14 9:30:11 AM#25

Stopped reading at "they wanted a competition".

 

Kind of sad when the writers are buying into "the mmo is dieing" mumble jumble.

  Asm0deus

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7/02/14 9:33:47 AM#26
I am just waiting for them to go f2p and if they don't well no biggie.

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  Joeyjojoshabadu

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7/02/14 9:34:39 AM#27

'Just' carving a niche? That's the real shame with ESO. It had the ES name behind it (GOTY quality and popularity) and the best even it's fans are now hoping for is that it becomes 'just' a niche game. It could have been so much more.

 

  Jorl

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7/02/14 9:35:09 AM#28
I cancelled my sub because I've found something better, however ESO is a good game, but it's just not Elderscrolls for me, there's no sandbox element what so ever which left me 'Meh'. I am playing Wildstar yes it's a themepark but I expected that, I like it and the reason I do is the adventure, dungeons etc they are challenging ESO isn't and ESO as a themepark just doesn't work, yeah ESO has better graphics but sometimes graphics isn't enough nor is the way they've done the quests (for me personally).
  sirphobos

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7/02/14 9:38:45 AM#29

All ESO really has to do to have a real solid game is fix the Veteran Ranks. 1-50 I had a blast playing ESO. The combat system is the most enjoyable I've seen in an MMO in a long time, the world is beautiful, and I actually do like the tradeskill system. I didn't care much for the PVP but I'm not a big PVP player anyway so I don't really care much.

However, for me, and for many other players, the game takes a huge nosedive in the fun factor department when you finish the initial campaign and hit VR1. The grind is painful (and I'm someone who played classic EQ1), they remove options on how to level, and playing through the other two faction's campaigns really isn't going to be fun for most people, especially when there is almost no noticeable power gain on your character.

  Spankster77

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7/02/14 9:39:26 AM#30

For starters, it has been done before, enter GW2, awesome story line and leveling experience, lack luster end game.  I don't think you can successfully capture and hold both single player RPG fans and MMO fans as they both crave different flavors.  At this point I don't think they can get back MMO fans so they should focus on storyline and character development at end game for the RPG-ers. 

 

The double edge sword here is with less subs comes less development money which in turn means less content being released.  A niche is nice as long as the niche has enough people to keep the game going. 

 

Another option IMO is to revamp the game and re-release it as F2P with a cash store.  Similar to what other games have done.  At this point they need to focus on what they want to be when they grow up... a MMO, a RPG, or a PvP focused game.   

 

P.S. - They kind of alienated true MMO players when they announced there was no end game raiding or challenging content.  in my experience raiders are the most loyal and longest lasting subscribers due to the fact that we are driven by that carrot, dangle it and we keep running. 

 
  SEANMCAD

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7/02/14 9:42:26 AM#31

Speaking for myself I play single player games and MMO games and I honestly do not make a distinction between the two. There are not certain features or aspects that I want out of a single player game that I don't get in a MMO and vice versa. Other than save files for single player, and groups for MMOs.

So I have always struggled with the concept that the two game style and communities are different because I don't think they are.

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  Nanfoodle

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7/02/14 9:47:04 AM#32
No matter what side you stand on there is one fact. ESO had the chance to be much bigger then it is now if not for how the handled things. Even fundamental things like teaming. They got that wrong on so many levels. 
  PyrateLV

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7/02/14 9:48:07 AM#33
I expect the Announcement of the indefinite hold on the Euro Server, the cancellation of Console and the move to F2P by end of August.

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  wc70

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7/02/14 9:48:08 AM#34
I played ESO to VR2 and lost interest because it was starting to feel more and more like a grind. In PvP the combat was fun and dynamic but the bulk of the time felt like it was eat up by travel.Good looking game fun play through 1 time around but I feel like I can get a game equal to or better than, without a sub.
  bcbully

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7/02/14 9:50:53 AM#35
Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Speaking for myself I play single player games and MMO games and I honestly do not make a distinction between the two. There are not certain features or aspects that I want out of a single player game that I don't get in a MMO and vice versa. Other than save files for single player, and groups for MMOs.

So I have always struggled with the concept that the two game style and communities are different because I don't think they are.

You know the difference now a days? PvP, there is no pvp in single player games. PvP is the mmo of mmorpg now a days. PvE is becoming more and more single player oriented, while PvP is getting bigger and bigger. ESO's PvP is as big as the genre has seen.  

 

 

 

 

 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  hikaru77

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7/02/14 9:51:22 AM#36

ESO is an amazing game from level 1 to 50 and the PvP is just the best thing of the game. But Zenimax made an HUGE mistake with the VR grind, thats where pretty much everyone quit the game. Now is even hard to find people grinding on Caglorn, and the VR zones are pretty much dead, thats a bad sign because there is only one megaserver on this game, and is empty after VR1.

Not even talking about how all the PvP campaigns are dead but one. ESO is a great game but Zenimax made just too many mistakes. 

  User Deleted
7/02/14 9:55:09 AM#37


Originally posted by bcbully
The most polarizing mmorpg on the most cynical mmorpg site, dying... 

fixed ;)

  Octagon7711

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Devs please nerf paper it's overpowered I'm rock which is fine scissors are fine.

7/02/14 9:55:29 AM#38
Molag Bal is winning.

  st3v3b0

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7/02/14 9:56:17 AM#39
A mere bandaide over a gash.  Eventually it will bleed out completely and go Buy 2 Play within the year.  They have a lot of work to do compared to other MMO's.
  bcbully

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7/02/14 10:02:35 AM#40
Originally posted by Foomerang

 


Originally posted by bcbully
The most polarizing mmorpg on the most cynical mmorpg site, dying... 

 

fixed ;)

 

I prefer the un-redefined/un-doctored truth ;)

Originally posted by bcbully

The most popular mmorpg on the most popular mmorpg site, dying... 

 

 

Kinda makes me think more people visit this site than us regular posters.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

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