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  CrazKanuk

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Joined: 10/06/09
Posts: 1271

6/27/14 9:24:02 AM#41
Originally posted by cutter666

I also commend CCP for sticking to its guns.

All of you that have played EvE and say the attitude of the players is getting worse you are completely right.

I've played a long time and to be fair I've managed to avoid a lot of really bad episodes  by luck more than skill.

The EvE population is bored so naturally it turns on itself, CCP has run out of steam and as an excuse it lets the shit  most of you are talking about happen and calls it, "player driven content".

CCP isn't really interested in new players, its about holding onto its elite fanboys now. Disenchanted creeps with nothing to do except flex their God complex.

EvE will eat itself.

So yep CCP stick to your guns, and I'll happily watch the whole thing burn.

 

This so much! 

 

EVE has a LOT of really interesting gameplay elements, but little to no actual content. I would agree that players are generally bored. I read an article about this group who basically hunts other players exclusively and how they hunted this one person for 3 years. 3 freakin' years!! Until he finally logged on with his trophy ship and was quickly dispatched. 

 

First, how much effort is required, how much energy do you need to spend to be this much of an asshat? Seems like it must take a great deal of work.

 

Secondly, why do people even play a game where they can't take their crowning achievements out and show them off? It's like buying a Ferrari, getting it delivered, then tarping it in the garage and never driving it. I mean it might not be efficient as a daily commuter, but I'd be taking it out on a weekly basis just to show off, and there aren't people out on the roads just driving around trying to ram me. 

 

I agree that CCP probably doesn't care about getting new users. They're quite content with the crowd they currently have, but it should be interesting to see what happens when Star Citizen and Elite: Dangerous come out. EVE might just go dark. I doubt it, but having some/any compoetition in this space should be an interesting experiment.

Crazkanuk

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  Elsabolts

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Joined: 10/03/06
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6/27/14 9:36:43 AM#42
I've heard of a rumor that several top sony exec's have been given copy's of Icelandic Rosetta Stone. Not saying that EvE will end up on All acess pass. It will depend on weather Brad is busy or not.
  Hariken

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Joined: 7/15/13
Posts: 571

6/27/14 9:37:16 AM#43
Eve was bad when i played around 2007 but now the game has some of the sickest players in any mmo i've ever seen and it will get worse. Non of the OP's post surprises me.  The player base is nothing but twisted people running the game. Its all they probably have in their lives to make them feel powerful. I aways tell people to stay far away from Eve online. To the  OP thanks for that link,i will make sure it gets around the web so people can see for themselves what a sick playerbase this game has.
  Ahnog

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Joined: 7/18/05
Posts: 230

6/27/14 9:42:35 AM#44
Been playing the game since 2005. Never been griefed.

Ahnog

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  greatskys

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Joined: 4/02/14
Posts: 352

6/27/14 9:49:41 AM#45
I did try EVE several years back but didn't find the community very friendly . I heard years later its mostly male so perhaps thats the reason . Too much testosterone . 
  kakasaki

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Joined: 6/11/06
Posts: 1262

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"

6/27/14 9:52:03 AM#46

There are tons more theme-park MMOs out there than games like EvE. Find one and give EvE a pass if the play style does not suit you. But to come on a forum to cry about it and rag on a great game that many players like... well, says more about you and your character than it does about the EvE player base...

 

There is no crying in EvE. 

 

 

A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...

  mayito7777

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/08/09
Posts: 432

6/27/14 9:54:55 AM#47
Originally posted by kakasaki

There are tons more theme-park MMOs out there than games like EvE. Find one and give EvE a pass if the play style does not suit you. But to come on a forum to cry about it and rag on a great game that many players like... well, says more about you and your character than it does about the EvE player base...

 

There is no crying in EvE. 

 

 

Calling some a crybaby because they are shedding light upon an evil social aspect of a community is a low blow. Refute his argument with evidence no calling him/her names.

  Rodentofdoom

Novice Member

Joined: 3/02/08
Posts: 273

6/27/14 9:58:55 AM#48

Is Eve a harsh, unforgiving and uncaring environment ?

- Yes, yes it is.

 

Are Eve's Players Sociopaths because they enjoy playing a harsh, unforgiving and uncaring game ?

- No, no they aren't.

 

 

 

I'm sorry to hear you didn't enjoy playing a game. After all, we all play games to have fun.

The tl/dr is "Eve isn't a game for everyone"

 

It's frequently mentioned that eve has a 'step learning curve' .. there's even a rather amusing graphic for it.

Most people mistakenly believe that the learning curve mentioned relates to the mechanics of eve's game play.

It doesn't.

The systems and mechanics in eve are actually quite straightforward and simple to understand.

The 'learning curve' refers to the mindset needed for eve.

When you undock you are a valid target, this is the part that almost everyone fails to understand.

Eve is a pvp based game that has elements of pve.

The [undock] button should read [I agree], and it should have a tool-tip that reads 'There may be explosions'.

 

 

Almost everything in eve is a tool for you to use to have fun :-

Your Clone - is just a tool

The implants in your clone - are just tools

The ship you fly - is just a tool

The ISK in your wallet - is just a tool

The ship modules in your hanger - are just tools

 

In eve, tools are an expendable resource, they are disposable.

 

I hope you find another MMO to play that meets your requirements for 'a fun experience'

but you may find that experience to be a shallow one, that is ultimately unfulfilling.

 

 

  kakasaki

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Joined: 6/11/06
Posts: 1262

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"

6/27/14 9:59:43 AM#49
Originally posted by mayito7777
Originally posted by kakasaki

There are tons more theme-park MMOs out there than games like EvE. Find one and give EvE a pass if the play style does not suit you. But to come on a forum to cry about it and rag on a great game that many players like... well, says more about you and your character than it does about the EvE player base...

 

There is no crying in EvE. 

 

 

Calling some a crybaby because they are shedding light upon an evil social aspect of a community is a low blow. Refute his argument with evidence no calling him/her names.

Its a game. Going on crusades over things that happen in a game is silly. Condemning an entire gamer and player base over the actions of a few is childish. But I would expect nothing else from most of the MMORPG.com crows. I swear this site is the home of some of the whiniest malcontents this side of the net.

The adult thing to do if you don't like a game is to not play and move on. But oh no, why do that when one can engage in a quixotic crusade... 

A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...

  mayito7777

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/08/09
Posts: 432

6/27/14 10:03:53 AM#50
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by mayito7777
Originally posted by kakasaki

There are tons more theme-park MMOs out there than games like EvE. Find one and give EvE a pass if the play style does not suit you. But to come on a forum to cry about it and rag on a great game that many players like... well, says more about you and your character than it does about the EvE player base...

 

There is no crying in EvE. 

 

 

Calling some a crybaby because they are shedding light upon an evil social aspect of a community is a low blow. Refute his argument with evidence no calling him/her names.

Its a game. Going on crusades over things that happen in a game is silly. Condemning an entire gamer and player base over the actions of a few is childish. But I would expect nothing else from most of the MMORPG.com crows. I swear this site is the home of some of the whiniest malcontents this side of the net.

The adult thing to do if you don't like a game is to not play and move on. But oh no, why do that when one can engage in a quixotic crusade... 

Because that is the reason since the birth of human race that have cause many men and women to fight for freedom, against injustice and is the main reason why you today are not a slave but a free man, because many people before you fought against why they considered to be unjust, evil and inmoral. 

  Soandsoso

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Joined: 3/08/12
Posts: 480

6/27/14 10:06:42 AM#51

I went to Aufay and watched Code in action.

 

They hide and spam "Code always wins" in local chat.

 

When they finally get a target they rush out in their cheap desi's, get podded, and go back into hiding and spamming local chat.

 

I am guessing they are on another account doing other stuff while they wait.

 

 

  n3v3rriv3r

Novice Member

Joined: 5/13/10
Posts: 323

6/27/14 10:14:22 AM#52

It is simple really: don't play the game and tell everybody about your experience in this game.

Eventually only griefers and psychotic players will remain and they will love to play with each other. Let it go and play another game.

Imho EVE has one of the worst community in gaming because even if in mobas (known as a bad community environment) there is  more raging and bad attitude nothing is done primarily to cause harm. EVE on the other hand thrives with schemes and malicious intent.

Let people who likes to do harm play between themselves.

  Uhwop

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/20/10
Posts: 1668

6/27/14 10:20:53 AM#53
Originally posted by mayito7777
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by mayito7777
Originally posted by kakasaki

There are tons more theme-park MMOs out there than games like EvE. Find one and give EvE a pass if the play style does not suit you. But to come on a forum to cry about it and rag on a great game that many players like... well, says more about you and your character than it does about the EvE player base...

 

There is no crying in EvE. 

 

 

Calling some a crybaby because they are shedding light upon an evil social aspect of a community is a low blow. Refute his argument with evidence no calling him/her names.

Its a game. Going on crusades over things that happen in a game is silly. Condemning an entire gamer and player base over the actions of a few is childish. But I would expect nothing else from most of the MMORPG.com crows. I swear this site is the home of some of the whiniest malcontents this side of the net.

The adult thing to do if you don't like a game is to not play and move on. But oh no, why do that when one can engage in a quixotic crusade... 

Because that is the reason since the birth of human race that have cause many men and women to fight for freedom, against injustice and is the main reason why you today are not a slave but a free man, because many people before you fought against why they considered to be unjust, evil and inmoral. 

It's a game that allows player to fill the roll of a pirate or "the bad guy".   Not real life.  

At some point we should all be able to separate what is real and what is not, so as to not confuse real unjust, evil, and immoral actions from people just playing a game as it's intended to be played.  

I feel that it's far more concerning that some people don't appear capable of making the distinction between the two, and are comfortable equating mining bumping to real world actions that are unjust, evil, and immoral. 

It's a game, not real life; you shouldn't be investing that much emotion into it.  

  kakasaki

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Joined: 6/11/06
Posts: 1262

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"

6/27/14 10:22:09 AM#54
Originally posted by mayito7777
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by mayito7777
Originally posted by kakasaki

There are tons more theme-park MMOs out there than games like EvE. Find one and give EvE a pass if the play style does not suit you. But to come on a forum to cry about it and rag on a great game that many players like... well, says more about you and your character than it does about the EvE player base...

 

There is no crying in EvE. 

 

 

Calling some a crybaby because they are shedding light upon an evil social aspect of a community is a low blow. Refute his argument with evidence no calling him/her names.

Its a game. Going on crusades over things that happen in a game is silly. Condemning an entire gamer and player base over the actions of a few is childish. But I would expect nothing else from most of the MMORPG.com crows. I swear this site is the home of some of the whiniest malcontents this side of the net.

The adult thing to do if you don't like a game is to not play and move on. But oh no, why do that when one can engage in a quixotic crusade... 

Because that is the reason since the birth of human race that have cause many men and women to fight for freedom, against injustice and is the main reason why you today are not a slave but a free man, because many people before you fought against why they considered to be unjust, evil and inmoral. 

It's a game! Look up the word "perspective" in the dictionary and then I suggest you try to find some. Save the righteous indignation for real issues, not video games. 

A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...

  kakasaki

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Joined: 6/11/06
Posts: 1262

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"

6/27/14 10:23:27 AM#55
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by mayito7777
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by mayito7777
Originally posted by kakasaki

There are tons more theme-park MMOs out there than games like EvE. Find one and give EvE a pass if the play style does not suit you. But to come on a forum to cry about it and rag on a great game that many players like... well, says more about you and your character than it does about the EvE player base...

 

There is no crying in EvE. 

 

 

Calling some a crybaby because they are shedding light upon an evil social aspect of a community is a low blow. Refute his argument with evidence no calling him/her names.

Its a game. Going on crusades over things that happen in a game is silly. Condemning an entire gamer and player base over the actions of a few is childish. But I would expect nothing else from most of the MMORPG.com crows. I swear this site is the home of some of the whiniest malcontents this side of the net.

The adult thing to do if you don't like a game is to not play and move on. But oh no, why do that when one can engage in a quixotic crusade... 

Because that is the reason since the birth of human race that have cause many men and women to fight for freedom, against injustice and is the main reason why you today are not a slave but a free man, because many people before you fought against why they considered to be unjust, evil and inmoral. 

It's a game that allows player to fill the roll of a pirate or "the bad guy".   Not real life.  

At some point we should all be able to separate what is real and what is not, so as to not confuse real unjust, evil, and immoral actions from people just playing a game as it's intended to be played.  

I feel that it's far more concerning that some people don't appear capable of making the distinction between the two, and are comfortable equating mining bumping to real world actions that are unjust, evil, and immoral. 

It's a game, not real life; you shouldn't be investing that much emotion into it.  

Thank you. At least some people on here are capable of being rational and having perspective.

A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...

  Uhwop

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6/27/14 10:26:38 AM#56
Originally posted by mayito7777
Eve Online the best social experiment that proves how low humans can descend.

So you're saying that the OP's experience, and the EVE community is worse than, say, real world genocide?  

Are you saying EVE descends lower than that? 

  GregorMcgregor

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6/27/14 10:32:38 AM#57
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
If something loud went off in fanfest the world would only grin.

Did you seriously just say that no one would care if someone set a bomb off at fanfest?  

Thats what that sounds like, so I would really like to know wtf is wrong with you?  

And you think you're better than the people playing EvE?  Wtf.  

Loud, as in outcry/noise. But feel free to draw your own conclusion... ;)

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  Malvious

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6/27/14 10:34:51 AM#58
Cool story bro 

Fine, we'll compromise. I'll get my way & you'll find a way to be okay with that.

  mbd1968

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6/27/14 10:42:20 AM#59

I've played EVE on and off for 10 years and have never experienced the griefing you describe. Like others have said, know the game and know what to expect. If I see a small ship appear in the asteroid belt where I am mining I immediately think scout and get the hell out of there. I don't go to low or null sec as you will get ganked and die, it's the way the game has always been.

You complain about the CODE. You realise this is a RPG and that is how they wish to role play. New players don't stay because they fail to understand how the game works and mistakengly think it like their favourite themepark When it hits home that this game is they complain like a little girl and rage quit.

The game is the way it is, if it's not for you don't play it.

  Uhwop

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6/27/14 10:47:12 AM#60
Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
Originally posted by Uhwop
Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
If something loud went off in fanfest the world would only grin.

Did you seriously just say that no one would care if someone set a bomb off at fanfest?  

Thats what that sounds like, so I would really like to know wtf is wrong with you?  

And you think you're better than the people playing EvE?  Wtf.  

Loud, as in outcry/noise. But feel free to draw your own conclusion... ;)

Edit:  I'm just going to do the right thing.  

 

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