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  Mothanos

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/20/10
Posts: 1886

6/27/14 2:33:35 AM#21

Eve Online doesnt need much change other then Plex prices dropping and something totaly shocking that makes nullsec implode.
Something epic like wormholes but on a much granter scale, maybe a paralel universe as big as Eve itself so other entity's can make a move to power.

I have quited and returned to Eve on regular bases like any Eve Online player.
But a better sandbox there is not.....
Could Eve Online improve ? oh hell yeah, many things could improve.
But that goes for any mmo or any game...

  Akerbeltz

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Joined: 2/12/13
Posts: 157

6/27/14 2:39:28 AM#22
Originally posted by Datawarlock
Originally posted by noblot
 

The hard decision would be to even care about new players really. The current trend for a lot of gamers is to hop from one, to the next, to the next, to the next, etc. Not to mention the crowd that cries over sub fees. Then there's the elite 'pvp kills games' crowd on this site alone.

WHY would CCP care about any of these people? All of them would have at least one complaint about the game and quit as it stands right now. Big deal, there's a large group of players that have stayed for years, if not the entire decade of the games lifespan who don't share these complaints and aren't going anywhere anytime soon. So as usual, it comes down to keeping your loyal base that have been around for awhile and paid your bills for years. Or you cater to the new generation of game hoppers and whiners, which is what current games do, but aren't losing the money they obviously didn't put into development or quality assurance. I'm pretty sure the second option would be like CCP slittling it's wrists and watching it's subs bleed away until they're dead. Loyalty comes with some guarantees, going all NGE ends in failure as we've all seen before.

Truth big as a temple

 

+1

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

  tom_gore

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Joined: 2/27/09
Posts: 1809

6/27/14 5:52:14 AM#23

When the most cost-effective way to play EVE is not to undock, it's not very hard to see the game has problems.

But CCP has chosen their way. Time will tell if they will stick to their guns to the bitter end.

 

  Akerbeltz

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Joined: 2/12/13
Posts: 157

6/27/14 6:06:14 AM#24
Originally posted by tom_gore

When the most cost-effective way to play EVE is not to undock, it's not very hard to see the game has problems.

But CCP has chosen their way. Time will tell if they will stick to their guns to the bitter end.

 

After 10 years in the game under a subscription model (something that only a handful of games have achieved) I think they've chosen their way quite ok.

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

  tawess

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Joined: 3/24/05
Posts: 2122

6/27/14 6:09:18 AM#25

10 months... Son you are barley long in the game to be called green... heck you are proto-green. =)

 

But yes... you are by all accounts right, eve is not a game that the solo players will EVER get any where in unless he is very very lucky. Nope... You need someone to show you the ropes, help you program your jump points and early in the game... Babysit you. The bigger that someone is the better. That will not stop the pirates but it will make the blows feel a bit less. As for CCP changing Eve... Nope... Not going to happen. It would be the end of the game and by extension CCP.

 

Eve is a game that does not give any quarter, does not make any excuses and is a gold mine for social studies. It is not a game for beginners.

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This have been a good conversation

  cheyane

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/17/09
Posts: 2549

6/27/14 6:11:32 AM#26
They have a loyal player base and why would CCP risk that. It will doom them for sure.

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  StarI

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Joined: 1/18/06
Posts: 843

6/27/14 6:26:43 AM#27
Originally posted by Thane

funny how people play a game, then make THEIR personal experience, and think everyone else has to feel the same way.

for the record, some people actually like open pvp. that's what eve is about.

 

you got ganked? awwww, yea, welcome to eve, that's why you insure you ships, and that is the reason you do not fly ANY ship you cannot afford to lose.

you start to play a game after what, 10 years and now think YOUR opinion is the one that matters?

people play this game for ages. your post is not the first of it's kind, and will neither be the last.

 

and eve never gave a damn.

 

the problem is not that "The problem CCP refuses to deal with is that games need to evolve", but rather that THAT IS A FEATURE OF EVE.

the only sollution there is, don't play open pvp games if you don't like open pvp.

this

and this

Originally posted by Datawarlock
I commend CCP for sticking to their guns. The players have always come first. The players built the community, they built the economy, they built a good majority of the ships you've picked up after getting podded... it's the players that make EVE what it is.  CCP is like  the only company left on earth that isn't swinging ban hammers or dumbing things down for every whiner that comes their way. You've played for 10 months, so compared to those that have played for the past 10 YEARS your gripes are insignificant, been heard a million times, and mean nothing new to anyone now. [mod edit]

 

 It's people who take it personal and than come whine here over-exagerating.

It is just a game. Use ignore and report features if individuals annoy you in chat or close it down and join on of the other thousands of chat channels.

You got ganked? Welcome on the quest how to adapt! Quit game out of dozens of possible solutions? Your loss.

That is the exact fun feature of EvE - to learn the game mechanics, to adapt the randomnes of player driven world. I understand it's too much for many to handle but you're nothing but a cry baby comming on  forums and telling others to not play because you are butthurt.

 

  Relaski

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Joined: 10/11/09
Posts: 6

6/27/14 6:52:40 AM#28
LOL i cant imagine you living in my part of space ( 0.0) xD we have one specially retarded goonswarm memmber  that kills of mobile tractor units in missions and no matter how many times we gank him he comes back,but thats a beauty of eve other people making things interesating.Only hard time in eve i had was when i was getting stalked in c3 wh by some crazy Russians  but even then i just stayed  alligned to pos and attacker couldnt do  much. Btw 10 months of playing,by that time if u  trained proper fighting skills u should be able to fly frigates,cruisers,or strategic ones very  effective so that guy that stalked u shouldnt be much of problem if u know what  you are doing.
  cutter666

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Joined: 7/02/06
Posts: 20

6/27/14 6:54:12 AM#29

I also commend CCP for sticking to its guns.

All of you that have played EvE and say the attitude of the players is getting worse you are completely right.

I've played a long time and to be fair I've managed to avoid a lot of really bad episodes  by luck more than skill.

The EvE population is bored so naturally it turns on itself, CCP has run out of steam and as an excuse it lets the shit  most of you are talking about happen and calls it, "player driven content".

CCP isn't really interested in new players, its about holding onto its elite fanboys now. Disenchanted creeps with nothing to do except flex their God complex.

EvE will eat itself.

So yep CCP stick to your guns, and I'll happily watch the whole thing burn.

 

  Sybnal

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Joined: 2/16/04
Posts: 264

6/27/14 9:13:48 AM#30

The OP's post is why EVE is such a cool game.  I mean what kind of universe has safe zones? What kind of adventure can you have without danger?  What kind of story doesn't have villains? Granted EVE is mostly full of them. But that makes the danger even more palpable. 

 

I played for about as long as the OP (other games called have called me away for now but I know I'll be back someday) I actually worked at running missions, playing the markets a bit with my paltry 50 million ISK that a friend gave me and took super cheap explorers out into null (no cloaking device, no warp stabs, no guns, no clue) and hauling.  Over the course of the summer of casual play I managed to get about 900mil saved up. Got killed a few times with a full cargo coming back from null, but they were learning experiences and I didn't count any of the loot mine until I made it back to the station anyway.

 

Then one day, I took a stupid risk based on bad information. I was under the impression that if you put your cargo in containers, it couldn't be scanned (stupid I know).  So I found a particularly nice deal on some T3 mods in Jita and loaded up my freighter and started my 400th run to Aamar.  Halfway there, BOOM, instagibbed at a gate.  650mil turned into spacedust and kill mail gloating. A paltry sum I know, but at the time, that was a fortune to me.

 

My point is, I FELT that shit.  No game before or since could invest me emotionally like that. I actually wanted real revenge..lol.  I didn't bitch or moan or run to the forums crying like a little girl though.  I found out what my mistakes were, vowed to never repeat them, and made the money back in a couple weeks.  Eventually, I found a small merc corp that agreed to grief the suicide ganking prick and his partner at their gate camps. @#$% him.

 

I guess my point is, it's a big dangerous universe out there, if you aren't smart enough, willing to do your research or don't have the intestinal fortitude to overcome adversity. Just stay the @#$% home. Space isn't for you. The people who love EVE wouldn't have it any other way.

 

  Wizardry

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Joined: 8/27/04
Posts: 7019

Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

6/27/14 9:38:22 AM#31
Originally posted by Datawarlock
I commend CCP for sticking to their guns. The players have always come first. The players built the community, they built the economy, they built a good majority of the ships you've picked up after getting podded... it's the players that make EVE what it is.  CCP is like  the only company left on earth that isn't swinging ban hammers or dumbing things down for every whiner that comes their way. You've played for 10 months, so compared to those that have played for the past 10 YEARS your gripes are insignificant, been heard a million times, and mean nothing new to anyone now. [mod edit]

IDK if still the case but CCP hired 2-3 people for the sole purpose of monitoring the game economy.If it was all about the players making it happen WHY would CCP care to monitor it?To me it is obvious to make sure the ISK is controlled in a fashion that continues to net them a large profit.

I mean seriously why would you allow isk spam sales outside the game to be spammed inside the game proving you don't care but then hire a few people to monitor it,it makes no sense.

Also the same gripes about the game have been going on since day 1,CCP simply had a unique game that catered to a market that had ZERO competition.CCP COULD have improved the game and STILL maintain the good side of pvp but they have done NOTHING at all except sell you some more empty space to fly around in,a few new ships cheap looking stations whatever,nothing they have done cost them much money to pull off.

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  Krematory

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Joined: 12/15/08
Posts: 549

MMOHOLIC

6/27/14 9:40:19 AM#32
10/10. Best QQ post I've read so far about CODE. Buy a mining permit next time :D

"EVE is likely the best MMORPG that you've never really understood or played" - Kyleran

  turinmacleod

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Joined: 10/24/12
Posts: 111

6/27/14 9:49:51 AM#33

Ahhh, and the wolves have started attacking the wolves.

 

/sits back and enjoys the show

 

T

  Paske

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Joined: 4/04/05
Posts: 102

6/27/14 10:01:48 AM#34
Originally posted by Krematory
10/10. Best QQ post I've read so far about CODE. Buy a mining permit next time :D

 

Love it :)

  Kyleran

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Fools find no pleasure in understanding, but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

6/27/14 10:01:50 AM#35
Originally posted by cerulean2012
I tried eve on a free trial pass about 2 weeks ago.  Second night out a couple of ships approached me (not sure what guild they where) and demanded I give them all of my money & other stuff I had.  I refused and the blew me up.  I thought oh well and went out the next night, same thing.  Haven't been back to the game since and have no desire to return to a game that I can not even level out of a starting area in.

Just wondering, how did they find you the 2nd night?  Did you go back to the place they blew you up the first time?  If so, the mistake was yours.

Also, did you report them? Generally speaking CCP does take griefing of new players somewhat seriously, so perhaps you should have made a complaint.

Now as for the OP, appears he did something to piss someone off, somewhere, likely running his mouth.  Never a good idea in EVE to talk smack if you don't have the corporation/alliance to back you up.

Never fly a ship you can not afford to lose.

Never, ever talk in local, especially to talk crap.

 

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
"People can do with their money what they want. But... that doesn't make it smart" - COORS
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon

  Paske

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6/27/14 10:06:13 AM#36

Think of EVE as Darwin simulator.

 

The strong and cunning survive and thrive. They survive and thrive on meak and sickly, like OP.

 

If you went to low sec or no sec, then only logical assumption is you got gate camped, blowned up, ridiculed.

Then you went QQ you guys are ahalls. And then they made it their business to make your life hell while there are no fleets/ roams / stuff going on.

 

EVE demands different mindest. Also you need to be a grown up person with some backbone and patience to enjoy this game.

  GregorMcgregor

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6/27/14 10:06:14 AM#37
If something loud went off in fanfest the world would only grin.

No trials. No tricks. No traps. No EU-RP server. NO THANKS!


...10% Benevolence, 90% Arrogance in my case!

  mayito7777

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Posts: 476

6/27/14 10:06:18 AM#38
Eve Online the best social experiment that proves how low humans can descend.
  Uhwop

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Posts: 1698

6/27/14 10:16:19 AM#39
Originally posted by GregorMcgregor
If something loud went off in fanfest the world would only grin.

Edit: responding was the correct way to deal with such a comment.  

  Uhwop

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6/27/14 10:21:37 AM#40
[mod edit]

My god.  

Is it irony that many of the people that condemn the game have a habit of demonstrating a far worse attitude than the people they condemn the game over?  

If you're going to blast people for their attitude in a game, wouldn't it at least be prudent for you to demonstrate a better attitude yourself?  Or am I just not able to grasp the validity in, essentially, calling a community of people douches, while being a douche yourself.  

I really don't get it.  

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