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  DMKano

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6/26/14 5:59:22 AM#21

I enjoyed the combat - but then again I am fan of EQ1s slow combat too.

I found Tera's combat tedious - I mean it's NOT hard - it just takes 2minutes to solo BAMs when you learn the pattern of attacks.

I just don't like having to do so much keyboard input for 1 stupid kill - no thanks.

 

I don't have a problem with action combat as long as TTK is not longer than 30seconds. AoC did it perfectly IMO - best melee combat I've ever played (pre-nerf when animation cancelling was still possible)

 

Bottom line my issue with FF14ARR has always been the fact that it's just another themepark - a very good one, but nothing that would hold me past the usual 3-6 weeks post launchl, my guild did all the content and got as far as we could in bcob and that was it - all happened before the free month was up.

 

 

 

 

  hallucigenocide

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6/26/14 6:15:36 AM#22
as many have said it starts out feeling kind of slow but once you get a bit higher in level it gets better and way more fun.. take dragoon or monk for instance.. they've got combos and they require you to flank or be behind the target wich makes for some interesting combat. also later on you'll get skills that are'nt on the gcd.

kek

  Colt47

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6/26/14 6:25:02 AM#23
Originally posted by hallucigenocide
as many have said it starts out feeling kind of slow but once you get a bit higher in level it gets better and way more fun.. take dragoon or monk for instance.. they've got combos and they require you to flank or be behind the target wich makes for some interesting combat. also later on you'll get skills that are'nt on the gcd.

Pretty much this.  The combat is enjoyable, they just hamstring it a bit too much early on and underestimate peoples ability to cope with new abilities and patterns.  I was forgiving to the whole ordeal because unlike some other titles, they revamped FFXIV in about two years, so there wasn't a whole lot of time to finely tweak the learning curve.

  MagikrorriM

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6/27/14 10:31:21 AM#24
Yoshi P mentioned some combat balancing is happening in the future, so keep you eye open for changes.  2.4 brings these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHye3NcO2hU did the Ninja jump on the mobs head, yes it did....
  Uhwop

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6/27/14 10:36:39 AM#25
Originally posted by Foomerang

Combat would be really fun if they halved the gcd and cast times.

The GCD was my only problem with combat.  My summoner had a lot of instants and the GCD felt like it messed up the rhythm of my rotation.  

 

  Ghavrigg

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6/27/14 10:44:32 AM#26

I went in expecting a somewhat basic combat system, and was surprised to find it amazing.

Combat is moderately fast-paced with a lot of moving around with telegraphing from enemy abilities. The best part about the combat not being crazy fast, is that I am not constantly staring at the floor waiting for these telegraphs. I watch the enemy as it does animations to give an idea of what's happening, or read the dialogue as well, so it's not a singular non-stop distraction like WildStar.

But if you're into a game where you don't stand around at all as you shoot off your abilities, then there are likely better games for you.

But the Primal fights in FFXIV are also really tough and require quick responsiveness and coordination to get through. They're just not the majority of the game.

It also helps the combat system that the character models and animations are some of the best there is at the moment and really sells it.

 

 

  mbd1968

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6/27/14 10:44:50 AM#27
Originally posted by woodyfly
From what I've seen, combat seems to be slow and boring but I do consider that I might enjoy if I personally try it. Did anyone think they would hate the combat but actually liked it when they played the game?

I was the opposite, I thought I might like it but when I tried it I found it slow and hated it.

  Maquiame

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6/27/14 11:10:14 AM#28
For anyone who thinks the combat is slow play a pugilist./monk. If you played that class and think the combat is slow it means that you like action combat and stop lying to yourself. Besides Western devs don't do real hand to hand martial artist classes anymore which absolutely sucks. I like guns too but can a man get all kung fu fighting please?

Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!

  Alders

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6/27/14 11:14:37 AM#29
Originally posted by Foomerang

Combat would be really fun if they halved the gcd and cast times.

 

This.  While the combat is vastly superior to FFXI and XIV 1.0, the 2.5 second GCD is holding it back.

  Ghavrigg

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6/27/14 11:38:34 AM#30
Originally posted by Alders
Originally posted by Foomerang

Combat would be really fun if they halved the gcd and cast times.

 

This.  While the combat is vastly superior to FFXI and XIV 1.0, the 2.5 second GCD is holding it back.

I don't understand this mentality. Faster does not equal better. I'm pressing keys for abilities nearly non-stop as it is. There's no need to be pressing even faster for the same result, and speed up animations to the point they aren't nearly as awesome and fun to see. They also couldn't get away with things like the Ninja jumping on top of the enemies for an attack and stuff.

No, their current system is definitely not holding it back. Your "ideal" system would, however.

  aesperus

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6/27/14 11:58:55 AM#31
Originally posted by woodyfly
From what I've seen, combat seems to be slow and boring but I do consider that I might enjoy if I personally try it. Did anyone think they would hate the combat but actually liked it when they played the game?

I did, and tbh the combat in this game still isn't my fav.

However, it's simple enough that everyone can get into it, and it's really the graphics of the game that drive it. It looks great.

There are certain abilities that also feel really nice to use (getting clutch flares, jumps, limit breaks, banes, etc.). There is also a pretty decent range of playstyles. You have some classes that are really simple to play (like bard), and you have other classes that are somewhat complex (like summoner, dragoon). You have some that seem complex and are easy, and some that seem easy but are somewhat complex.

It really depends on what type of games you're looking for. If you enjoy most MMOs, and you like final fantasy, you'll probably enjoy this game.

If you're looking for a game with very tricky / challenging gameplay, or are not a fan of final fantasy, this may not be the best game for you.

  nbtscan

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6/27/14 12:02:45 PM#32

Overall I like the tempo of the combat system.  There's several mechanics and telegraphs to dodge that if the pacing were any faster you'd just be wasting attacks since you wouldn't actually be ABLE to attack every 1.5 second or whatever people want.

I feel the system could use some tweaks, such as individualizing the limit break animations per job and having some interaction between players with their combos, (I do miss skill chains/magic bursts from FFXI) but overall it works well.

  hallucigenocide

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6/27/14 12:09:46 PM#33
i think most people complaining about the gcd never really got past the lower levels because once you get higher things get faster as you're not only using abilities with gcd's anymore.. it's just that for some reason they've decided to leave the training wheels on for quite some time and it's not really until you start on your job that things start to get more fluid(around lvl 30)

kek

  Alders

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6/27/14 12:24:09 PM#34
Originally posted by Ghavrigg
Originally posted by Alders
Originally posted by Foomerang

Combat would be really fun if they halved the gcd and cast times.

 

This.  While the combat is vastly superior to FFXI and XIV 1.0, the 2.5 second GCD is holding it back.

I don't understand this mentality. Faster does not equal better. I'm pressing keys for abilities nearly non-stop as it is. There's no need to be pressing even faster for the same result, and speed up animations to the point they aren't nearly as awesome and fun to see. They also couldn't get away with things like the Ninja jumping on top of the enemies for an attack and stuff.

No, their current system is definitely not holding it back. Your "ideal" system would, however.

And that's fine for you.  Nothing wrong with that.

I, on the other hand, don't need 2.5 seconds to decide what to do or what is the best course of action to take next.  The second i hit an ability, i already know what i'm going to do next depending on any number of factors based on mob interaction.  A 1 second GCD works best for me.

The majority of gameplay vids I've watched seem to indicate the same may be true for many others as well.  I see many players spamming their next attack button trying to get it to go off as soon as possible.

I understand why they have a long GCD and it has nothing to do with SE preferring it that way.  

  Ghavrigg

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6/27/14 3:08:16 PM#35
Originally posted by Alders
Originally posted by Ghavrigg
Originally posted by Alders
Originally posted by Foomerang

Combat would be really fun if they halved the gcd and cast times.

 

This.  While the combat is vastly superior to FFXI and XIV 1.0, the 2.5 second GCD is holding it back.

I don't understand this mentality. Faster does not equal better. I'm pressing keys for abilities nearly non-stop as it is. There's no need to be pressing even faster for the same result, and speed up animations to the point they aren't nearly as awesome and fun to see. They also couldn't get away with things like the Ninja jumping on top of the enemies for an attack and stuff.

No, their current system is definitely not holding it back. Your "ideal" system would, however.

And that's fine for you.  Nothing wrong with that.

I, on the other hand, don't need 2.5 seconds to decide what to do or what is the best course of action to take next.  The second i hit an ability, i already know what i'm going to do next depending on any number of factors based on mob interaction.  A 1 second GCD works best for me.

The majority of gameplay vids I've watched seem to indicate the same may be true for many others as well.  I see many players spamming their next attack button trying to get it to go off as soon as possible.

I understand why they have a long GCD and it has nothing to do with SE preferring it that way.  

All I can see is the epic combat animations and fights becoming quick, bland and distorted with a 1 second GCD. I disagree in regards to the 2.5 second GCD not being what SE prefers. If YoshiP truly saw this being a major boon to the game, he would have worked with it instead.

Regardless, I've made my argument, and you've made yours, and neither of us are gonna win, so have fun with whatever game is working for you, and I'll do the same. 

  User Deleted
6/27/14 3:09:53 PM#36

I can see what some folks are saying about it getting faster at higher levels. I have a 50 paladin and it is so agonizingly slow especially if I get talked into tanking a dungeon its just plain bad class design. Most of my enmity management share that 2.5 second gcd. So if a dps pulls a mob off me and I just hit an attack, its 2.5 seconds of me just watching mobs run amok, unable to do a damn thing about it. So the solution is to save my gcd for when something bad happens. Which means I'm auto attacking about half the time which is safe but boring.

I also have a 50 arcanist and summoner and they are more interesting but its still a lot of time watching a long gcd as I apply all my dots.

  Vasel

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6/27/14 3:13:52 PM#37
The GCD and the cast times for even the most simple of spells is the reason i had to stop playing it.  Its a great game but i just couldnt do it. This age of games moving to more twitchy and positional combat and this game goes the other direction. Good luck its not for me.
  nbtscan

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6/27/14 4:01:27 PM#38
Originally posted by Ghavrigg
All I can see is the epic combat animations and fights becoming quick, bland and distorted with a 1 second GCD. I disagree in regards to the 2.5 second GCD not being what SE prefers. If YoshiP truly saw this being a major boon to the game, he would have worked with it instead.

Regardless, I've made my argument, and you've made yours, and neither of us are gonna win, so have fun with whatever game is working for you, and I'll do the same. 

The amusing thing is in beta the GCD was actually 3 seconds.  After a lot of feedback the dev team decided to lower it another half a second and most people felt like it played better after that.

There's games out there that fulfill the more action-oriented combat.  This one has decided not to go that route.

  Ghavrigg

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6/28/14 11:29:56 PM#39
Originally posted by nbtscan
Originally posted by Ghavrigg
All I can see is the epic combat animations and fights becoming quick, bland and distorted with a 1 second GCD. I disagree in regards to the 2.5 second GCD not being what SE prefers. If YoshiP truly saw this being a major boon to the game, he would have worked with it instead.

Regardless, I've made my argument, and you've made yours, and neither of us are gonna win, so have fun with whatever game is working for you, and I'll do the same. 

The amusing thing is in beta the GCD was actually 3 seconds.  After a lot of feedback the dev team decided to lower it another half a second and most people felt like it played better after that.

There's games out there that fulfill the more action-oriented combat.  This one has decided not to go that route.

I had no idea about the 3 second GCD. Was that overflow from the 1.0 game? I can't remember a ton about that since I only played it for a week or so.

But that's right. They lowered it a bit more, and they felt it went well enough with their design plans and adapted. If they thought a 1 second GCD would have helped the system, they would have done the same. As it stands, it's a good balance of action, strategy and reflex without resorting to a twitch gameplay style, which is definitely more niche in the MMORPG genre.

  woodyfly

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OP  7/01/14 2:06:04 AM#40

So guys, I eventually bought the game on 50% steam sale and.... I think this is the most boring combat out of all mmorpgs I've ever played in 10 years :(

I've been spamming my "stone" spell for 6 hours straight every 2.5 seconds. Switching to another class is the same thing, replace "stone" with "insertabilityname"

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