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  SEANMCAD

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OP  6/24/14 1:58:22 PM#21
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Phry

The OR while a nice idea and possibly a fun 'tool', is not really likely to be all that popular, there are several reasons, but the primary one will be the price, not everyone will either be able to afford it, or be willing to pay that much for it if they can, to be at all popular it would have to be no more expensive than the average monitor, which is unlikely.

 Using a keyboard and mouse while wearing one is also an issue, the wearer needs to be able to see the keyboard, not that many people are able to type without seeing it, and fumbling around trying to find the mouse is also going to be a bit of a pita.

game support for OR is not that widespread, and while newer games might include support for it, unless the OR does manage to achieve a significant percentage of the player bases ownership, then game developers are unlikely to be all that concerned about including comprehensive support for it, meaning that while it may work with games, it will be little more than a token gesture.

it may just be perceived as a gimmick by most players, and perhaps an expensive one at that.

It might take off, but i don't think it will really have that much of an impact on games, MMO or otherwise.

I would like to make a few observations on what you said.

1. NASA is using the RIFT. There are a lot of real life applications for the RIFT not to mention gaming.

2. A meh TV costs around $400 (agree)? The Rift costs less and the experience is MUCH higher than a TV could ever dream of. Although I dont agree with Oculus that it will become as popular as smart phones I will say that the dollar for impact is higher than it is for smart phones

 

The experience is MUCH better then a tv could ever dream of hmm? Are you sure you don't need a lesson on subjective?  Now personally when I'm watching tv a movie or sporting event part of that is experiences it with other people.  If it's a movie the wife and I get a bowl of popcorn and hangout together.  If it's a sporting event I have a few friends over with beers and BBQ.  So how exactly is the oculus rift going to make that a "MUCH better experience ".  So again you sure you don't need a lesson on subjective?  

 

Also so you say you have both dev models and claim the picture when watching tv is amazing...yet in most of the review about watching tv or a movie they clearly state how it's not very good now but could have potential in a few years.  So let's try not to exaggerate the truths here that's not going to help you sell some units. 

Speaking personally and speaking on behalf of others I know with an extensive TV/Movie viewing experience, watching TV?Movies is a solitary engagement in which other people happen to also be in the room. 

You think a movie theather is designed for social interaction?

Things that I say such as 'indie games are better than AAA' its barely subjective but it is subjective. In this its not.

How do I proove it? I cant anymore than I can proove actual sex with a beautiful woman is better than sex with an animal.

Correlation does not imply causation

  MMOredfalcon

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Joined: 9/18/13
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6/24/14 2:09:27 PM#22
Originally posted by SEANMCAD

Speaking personally and speaking on behalf of others I know with an extensive TV/Movie viewing experience, watching TV?Movies is a solitary engagement in which other people happen to also be in the room. 

You think a movie theather is designed for social interaction?

Things that I say such as 'indie games are better than AAA' its barely subjective but it is subjective. In this its not.

How do I proove it? I cant anymore than I can proove actual sex with a beautiful woman is better than sex with an animal.

 Ummm gonna pipe up here a movie Theater isn't meant for social interaction? How many dates have you gone on in your life? How often do you see just one person goto see a movie alone? Like 99% of people who goto movies, go with friends, dates, family, kids...yes with a REAL wife or husband! 

Even sitting in the house playing an MMO...well if you have a family or any kind of social life outside the games...you're not going to sit around wearing that redonkulous headset that shuts them off from the world.

And as a final question.....how many times have you had sex with an animal or woman that you can bring up comparing the two?

  Hockeyisthegame

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Joined: 6/16/14
Posts: 96

6/24/14 2:10:05 PM#23
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Phry

The OR while a nice idea and possibly a fun 'tool', is not really likely to be all that popular, there are several reasons, but the primary one will be the price, not everyone will either be able to afford it, or be willing to pay that much for it if they can, to be at all popular it would have to be no more expensive than the average monitor, which is unlikely.

 Using a keyboard and mouse while wearing one is also an issue, the wearer needs to be able to see the keyboard, not that many people are able to type without seeing it, and fumbling around trying to find the mouse is also going to be a bit of a pita.

game support for OR is not that widespread, and while newer games might include support for it, unless the OR does manage to achieve a significant percentage of the player bases ownership, then game developers are unlikely to be all that concerned about including comprehensive support for it, meaning that while it may work with games, it will be little more than a token gesture.

it may just be perceived as a gimmick by most players, and perhaps an expensive one at that.

It might take off, but i don't think it will really have that much of an impact on games, MMO or otherwise.

I would like to make a few observations on what you said.

1. NASA is using the RIFT. There are a lot of real life applications for the RIFT not to mention gaming.

2. A meh TV costs around $400 (agree)? The Rift costs less and the experience is MUCH higher than a TV could ever dream of. Although I dont agree with Oculus that it will become as popular as smart phones I will say that the dollar for impact is higher than it is for smart phones

 

The experience is MUCH better then a tv could ever dream of hmm? Are you sure you don't need a lesson on subjective?  Now personally when I'm watching tv a movie or sporting event part of that is experiences it with other people.  If it's a movie the wife and I get a bowl of popcorn and hangout together.  If it's a sporting event I have a few friends over with beers and BBQ.  So how exactly is the oculus rift going to make that a "MUCH better experience ".  So again you sure you don't need a lesson on subjective?  

 

Also so you say you have both dev models and claim the picture when watching tv is amazing...yet in most of the review about watching tv or a movie they clearly state how it's not very good now but could have potential in a few years.  So let's try not to exaggerate the truths here that's not going to help you sell some units. 

Speaking personally and speaking on behalf of others I know with an extensive TV/Movie viewing experience, watching TV?Movies is a solitary engagement in which other people happen to also be in the room. 

You think a movie theather is designed for social interaction?

Things that I say such as 'indie games are better than AAA' its barely subjective but it is subjective. In this its not.

How do I proove it? I cant anymore than I can proove actual sex with a beautiful woman is better than sex with an animal.

 

Yeppers you need a lesson in subjective that is for sure. To you indie games are better not to everyone so very subjective. To you strapping on a headset being alone watching tv or a movie is better then being with the company of others laughing together, being in suspense together, cheering together but other prefer to be around others even so yes again your views are very subjective.

 

Movie theaters you say? When was the last time you went to a theater? All the ones around me are installing nice comfy recliners that have middle arm bars that go up?  Why is that you ask so two people can be close while they watch a movie.  Again you enjoy being alone in that experience others enjoy being with others so yes that is very subjective.   

 

As  for your other immature comment based on your subjectivity towards being alone I won't comment on it.  

  SEANMCAD

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Joined: 3/22/09
Posts: 5327

 
OP  6/24/14 2:20:06 PM#24
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Phry

The OR while a nice idea and possibly a fun 'tool', is not really likely to be all that popular, there are several reasons, but the primary one will be the price, not everyone will either be able to afford it, or be willing to pay that much for it if they can, to be at all popular it would have to be no more expensive than the average monitor, which is unlikely.

 Using a keyboard and mouse while wearing one is also an issue, the wearer needs to be able to see the keyboard, not that many people are able to type without seeing it, and fumbling around trying to find the mouse is also going to be a bit of a pita.

game support for OR is not that widespread, and while newer games might include support for it, unless the OR does manage to achieve a significant percentage of the player bases ownership, then game developers are unlikely to be all that concerned about including comprehensive support for it, meaning that while it may work with games, it will be little more than a token gesture.

it may just be perceived as a gimmick by most players, and perhaps an expensive one at that.

It might take off, but i don't think it will really have that much of an impact on games, MMO or otherwise.

I would like to make a few observations on what you said.

1. NASA is using the RIFT. There are a lot of real life applications for the RIFT not to mention gaming.

2. A meh TV costs around $400 (agree)? The Rift costs less and the experience is MUCH higher than a TV could ever dream of. Although I dont agree with Oculus that it will become as popular as smart phones I will say that the dollar for impact is higher than it is for smart phones

 

The experience is MUCH better then a tv could ever dream of hmm? Are you sure you don't need a lesson on subjective?  Now personally when I'm watching tv a movie or sporting event part of that is experiences it with other people.  If it's a movie the wife and I get a bowl of popcorn and hangout together.  If it's a sporting event I have a few friends over with beers and BBQ.  So how exactly is the oculus rift going to make that a "MUCH better experience ".  So again you sure you don't need a lesson on subjective?  

 

Also so you say you have both dev models and claim the picture when watching tv is amazing...yet in most of the review about watching tv or a movie they clearly state how it's not very good now but could have potential in a few years.  So let's try not to exaggerate the truths here that's not going to help you sell some units. 

Speaking personally and speaking on behalf of others I know with an extensive TV/Movie viewing experience, watching TV?Movies is a solitary engagement in which other people happen to also be in the room. 

You think a movie theather is designed for social interaction?

Things that I say such as 'indie games are better than AAA' its barely subjective but it is subjective. In this its not.

How do I proove it? I cant anymore than I can proove actual sex with a beautiful woman is better than sex with an animal.

 

Yeppers you need a lesson in subjective that is for sure. To you indie games are better not to everyone so very subjective. To you strapping on a headset being alone watching tv or a movie is better then being with the company of others laughing together, being in suspense together, cheering together but other prefer to be around others even so yes again your views are very subjective.

 

Movie theaters you say? When was the last time you went to a theater? All the ones around me are installing nice comfy recliners that have middle arm bars that go up?  Why is that you ask so two people can be close while they watch a movie.  Again you enjoy being alone in that experience others enjoy being with others so yes that is very subjective.   

 

As  for your other immature comment based on your subjectivity towards being alone I won't comment on it.  

dude!

nearly EVERTHING Is 'subjective'

Is living on earth better than living in the vacum of space with nothing more than 30 mins of air? well most would say yeah but its technically subjective.

Or more exactly you are saying the difference between watching a movie on a smart phone or a $30,000 theather system in the same room is 'subjective'

Or another good example: Is running at 480[ on a 14" monitor better than 4k on a 30" monitor?...oh its subjective.

horseshit. there is a point where it starts to get asine

 

Correlation does not imply causation

  Hockeyisthegame

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Joined: 6/16/14
Posts: 96

6/24/14 2:30:53 PM#25
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Phry

The OR while a nice idea and possibly a fun 'tool', is not really likely to be all that popular, there are several reasons, but the primary one will be the price, not everyone will either be able to afford it, or be willing to pay that much for it if they can, to be at all popular it would have to be no more expensive than the average monitor, which is unlikely.

 Using a keyboard and mouse while wearing one is also an issue, the wearer needs to be able to see the keyboard, not that many people are able to type without seeing it, and fumbling around trying to find the mouse is also going to be a bit of a pita.

game support for OR is not that widespread, and while newer games might include support for it, unless the OR does manage to achieve a significant percentage of the player bases ownership, then game developers are unlikely to be all that concerned about including comprehensive support for it, meaning that while it may work with games, it will be little more than a token gesture.

it may just be perceived as a gimmick by most players, and perhaps an expensive one at that.

It might take off, but i don't think it will really have that much of an impact on games, MMO or otherwise.

I would like to make a few observations on what you said.

1. NASA is using the RIFT. There are a lot of real life applications for the RIFT not to mention gaming.

2. A meh TV costs around $400 (agree)? The Rift costs less and the experience is MUCH higher than a TV could ever dream of. Although I dont agree with Oculus that it will become as popular as smart phones I will say that the dollar for impact is higher than it is for smart phones

 

The experience is MUCH better then a tv could ever dream of hmm? Are you sure you don't need a lesson on subjective?  Now personally when I'm watching tv a movie or sporting event part of that is experiences it with other people.  If it's a movie the wife and I get a bowl of popcorn and hangout together.  If it's a sporting event I have a few friends over with beers and BBQ.  So how exactly is the oculus rift going to make that a "MUCH better experience ".  So again you sure you don't need a lesson on subjective?  

 

Also so you say you have both dev models and claim the picture when watching tv is amazing...yet in most of the review about watching tv or a movie they clearly state how it's not very good now but could have potential in a few years.  So let's try not to exaggerate the truths here that's not going to help you sell some units. 

Speaking personally and speaking on behalf of others I know with an extensive TV/Movie viewing experience, watching TV?Movies is a solitary engagement in which other people happen to also be in the room. 

You think a movie theather is designed for social interaction?

Things that I say such as 'indie games are better than AAA' its barely subjective but it is subjective. In this its not.

How do I proove it? I cant anymore than I can proove actual sex with a beautiful woman is better than sex with an animal.

 

Yeppers you need a lesson in subjective that is for sure. To you indie games are better not to everyone so very subjective. To you strapping on a headset being alone watching tv or a movie is better then being with the company of others laughing together, being in suspense together, cheering together but other prefer to be around others even so yes again your views are very subjective.

 

Movie theaters you say? When was the last time you went to a theater? All the ones around me are installing nice comfy recliners that have middle arm bars that go up?  Why is that you ask so two people can be close while they watch a movie.  Again you enjoy being alone in that experience others enjoy being with others so yes that is very subjective.   

 

As  for your other immature comment based on your subjectivity towards being alone I won't comment on it.  

dude!

nearly EVERTHING Is 'subjective'

Is living on earth better than living in the vacum of space with nothing more than 30 mins of air? well most would say yeah but its technically subjective.

Or more exactly you are saying the difference between watching a movie on a smart phone or a $30,000 theather system in the same room is 'subjective'

horseshit. there is a point where it starts to get asine

 

 

Yep I believe that point came when you said

"watching movies/tv is a solitary engagement". 

Or when you said

" watching tv in the rift is a MUCH better experience then tv could ever dream of". 

Or

"Movie theaters are not for social interaction" 

Im sure there are a lot of other examples.  

  Foobarx

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6/24/14 2:30:57 PM#26

The fact that NASA is using it proves that it's a waste of money.

 

The government is not known for making smart decisions... they're spending your money because it's your money.  They wouldn't be so quick to throw money around if it came out of their own pocket.

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6/24/14 2:34:40 PM#27

I think Oculus Rift is going to be a huge succes. I also don't think that MMO's that have Oculus rift as an optional fanctionality will be that big, however MMO's that are created specifically for the Rift and build for VR from the ground up, may very well be the next revolution of MMO's. 

One magical part of MMO's after all is being in a believable alternate world, and something like the rift helps with immersion. 

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OP  6/24/14 2:37:53 PM#28
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Phry

The OR while a nice idea and possibly a fun 'tool', is not really likely to be all that popular, there are several reasons, but the primary one will be the price, not everyone will either be able to afford it, or be willing to pay that much for it if they can, to be at all popular it would have to be no more expensive than the average monitor, which is unlikely.

 Using a keyboard and mouse while wearing one is also an issue, the wearer needs to be able to see the keyboard, not that many people are able to type without seeing it, and fumbling around trying to find the mouse is also going to be a bit of a pita.

game support for OR is not that widespread, and while newer games might include support for it, unless the OR does manage to achieve a significant percentage of the player bases ownership, then game developers are unlikely to be all that concerned about including comprehensive support for it, meaning that while it may work with games, it will be little more than a token gesture.

it may just be perceived as a gimmick by most players, and perhaps an expensive one at that.

It might take off, but i don't think it will really have that much of an impact on games, MMO or otherwise.

I would like to make a few observations on what you said.

1. NASA is using the RIFT. There are a lot of real life applications for the RIFT not to mention gaming.

2. A meh TV costs around $400 (agree)? The Rift costs less and the experience is MUCH higher than a TV could ever dream of. Although I dont agree with Oculus that it will become as popular as smart phones I will say that the dollar for impact is higher than it is for smart phones

 

The experience is MUCH better then a tv could ever dream of hmm? Are you sure you don't need a lesson on subjective?  Now personally when I'm watching tv a movie or sporting event part of that is experiences it with other people.  If it's a movie the wife and I get a bowl of popcorn and hangout together.  If it's a sporting event I have a few friends over with beers and BBQ.  So how exactly is the oculus rift going to make that a "MUCH better experience ".  So again you sure you don't need a lesson on subjective?  

 

Also so you say you have both dev models and claim the picture when watching tv is amazing...yet in most of the review about watching tv or a movie they clearly state how it's not very good now but could have potential in a few years.  So let's try not to exaggerate the truths here that's not going to help you sell some units. 

Speaking personally and speaking on behalf of others I know with an extensive TV/Movie viewing experience, watching TV?Movies is a solitary engagement in which other people happen to also be in the room. 

You think a movie theather is designed for social interaction?

Things that I say such as 'indie games are better than AAA' its barely subjective but it is subjective. In this its not.

How do I proove it? I cant anymore than I can proove actual sex with a beautiful woman is better than sex with an animal.

 

Yeppers you need a lesson in subjective that is for sure. To you indie games are better not to everyone so very subjective. To you strapping on a headset being alone watching tv or a movie is better then being with the company of others laughing together, being in suspense together, cheering together but other prefer to be around others even so yes again your views are very subjective.

 

Movie theaters you say? When was the last time you went to a theater? All the ones around me are installing nice comfy recliners that have middle arm bars that go up?  Why is that you ask so two people can be close while they watch a movie.  Again you enjoy being alone in that experience others enjoy being with others so yes that is very subjective.   

 

As  for your other immature comment based on your subjectivity towards being alone I won't comment on it.  

dude!

nearly EVERTHING Is 'subjective'

Is living on earth better than living in the vacum of space with nothing more than 30 mins of air? well most would say yeah but its technically subjective.

Or more exactly you are saying the difference between watching a movie on a smart phone or a $30,000 theather system in the same room is 'subjective'

horseshit. there is a point where it starts to get asine

 

 

Yep I believe that point came when you said

"watching movies/tv is a solitary engagement". 

Or when you said

" watching tv in the rift is a MUCH better experience then tv could ever dream of". 

Or

"Movie theaters are not for social interaction" 

Im sure there are a lot of other examples.  

wait...

you think watching a movie is a social interaction?

[mod edit] That said, VR is not for everyone just like getting a flatscreen monitor over the old VGA monitors is not for everyone. I will end my rant there and allow you to have your view.

:)

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OP  6/24/14 2:41:04 PM#29
Originally posted by Foobarx

The fact that NASA is using it proves that it's a waste of money.

 

The government is not known for making smart decisions... they're spending your money because it's your money.  They wouldn't be so quick to throw money around if it came out of their own pocket.

now there is a side conversation I would love to get into with you!

For every $1 invested in NASA $7 get injected back into the economy, not to mention the general cool side effect of knowing there is likely life in our own solar system other than earth.

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  Hockeyisthegame

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6/24/14 2:50:09 PM#30
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Foobarx

The fact that NASA is using it proves that it's a waste of money.

 

The government is not known for making smart decisions... they're spending your money because it's your money.  They wouldn't be so quick to throw money around if it came out of their own pocket.

now there is a side conversation I would love to get into with you!

For every $1 invested in NASA $7 get injected back into the economy, not to mention the general cool side effect of knowing there is likely life in our own solar system other than earth.

 

I would love to read the link that explains the $100 billion that NASA put into the economy last year. 

 

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OP  6/24/14 2:53:20 PM#31
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by Foobarx

The fact that NASA is using it proves that it's a waste of money.

 

The government is not known for making smart decisions... they're spending your money because it's your money.  They wouldn't be so quick to throw money around if it came out of their own pocket.

now there is a side conversation I would love to get into with you!

For every $1 invested in NASA $7 get injected back into the economy, not to mention the general cool side effect of knowing there is likely life in our own solar system other than earth.

 

I would love to read the link that explains the $100 billion that NASA put into the economy last year. 

 

I would love to share with you what I know but its a side converation that would take a lot of time. not for this conversation.

Safe to say I support NASA

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6/24/14 3:20:47 PM#32
You know what really might happen?  While this technology would be revolutionary for gaming, folks will stop playing games and use the technology to have a virtual all-the-way-date with some computerized version of some popular diva.  You gotta know it's going there.
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6/24/14 3:33:15 PM#33

I'll definitely be getting one myself. I've experienced it and know the capabilities and future potential. It's not a solitary experience like some may think, but it can be just like any other entertainment.

Others can watch what you're doing in the game on the big screen TV, computer or laptop. No different than hangin at your friends house while they play an xbox/PS game. I don't see why that couldn't be expanded into 2 player mode with split screen on the TV (again - so others see what you're doing) and 2 visors. You already buy 2 controllers to play co-op on a console.

Will everyone want one? No.

Will it phase out the need for TVs? No.

Will it open new experiences, options and potentially spread like wild fire? Yes.

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6/24/14 3:40:15 PM#34

 

OR may, or may not be, THE viewer of the future, but the technology is here to stay.  OR is simply pioneering the technology but others are sure to follow.  Its the "next" step that will revolutionize gaming.  Remember those clunky humongous "brick looking" mobile phones of yester year? That is the Occulus Rift today.

It's coming, and it will revolutionize gaming in a big way.

The game you are looking for requiring no PvE completion and where you can just jump in and start mindlessly shooting at people is that way - >>>>

... it's called an FPS.

Quit ruining the MMORPG genre with your constant "PvE grind" whines.

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OP  6/24/14 3:42:24 PM#35
Originally posted by Phry
 

Except the occulus can only be used by 1 person, that Tv which btw, is not a good example, can be watched/used by many, never mind that the average monitor is better resolution than the Tv anyway. the OR is not a supplement or replacement for a Tv, BUT FOR A MONITOR, but that also gets away from the point that the issue is how much it will cost, because that will directly affect how many people will buy it, Whether the thing is better than a television set or not is largely irrelevant.

1. In relation to TVs and only TVs the cost of a 60" running 3x as much as an Oculus AND having a much larger effective viewing area will not put an end to TVs for the reasons you have stated. It will however make an impact. There are plenty of people who see watching TV not as a social interactive event but rather content to be consumed, which is why some people say 'shhh' while in a movie theather.

2. Comparing the Rift to PC monitors is an interesting choice because

     A. I spend more on a single monitor then I have on a Rift kit.

     B. Forbes successfully had an VR instance of 20 monitors in one viewing space. That is 20x$120(going cheap).

3. There sure are a shit ton of monitors out in the world right now, if Rift only had 1/2 that number it would be a huge impact.

4. smartphones do not replace computers, it doesnt have to be a replacement story for it to be a smashing success

 

I think the bottom line here is that you are not interested in a VR experience and I should not convince you otherwise. I just feel like rebutting on some of the 'becauses' I read.

fair to say you will not be having a VR experience anytime soon. I however already have :)

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  Jaknife

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6/24/14 3:42:48 PM#36

I think the technology, is amazing.

I think it will change a lot of things, gaming being one of them.

Would I get one, I would have, right up until Facebook bought it.

Now, it can die a horrible death, for me.

I will look into the Avegant Glyph instead.

Based on the way Facebook already sell any information placed on their site :

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-data-brokers-selling-your-personal-information/

http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/data-mining-industry-is-booming/51dca6212b8c2a317c0001ab

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/01/04/343599/facebook-being-sued-over-privacy-policy/

I think its an example of how large companies will continue to dip into other areas that they wouldnt normally, in order to gain even more information about us.

When Occulus was a small start up on Kickstarter, I think it may not have had the backing it deserved, but I certainly wouldnt give it my money now.

 

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6/24/14 3:45:27 PM#37
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame

 

I would love to read the link that explains the $100 billion that NASA put into the economy last year. 

 

The next time you use the internet, cell phone, microwave, see a smoke detector, use the breaks in your car or receive a MRI. Think about the space program. Think about how the space industry has contributed to the betterment of life on Earth. Would some of these technologies have been invented or improved without humans exploring space. Possibility, but space has forced us to think outside the box.

NASA spin-off technologies

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6/24/14 3:59:39 PM#38
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame

 

I would love to read the link that explains the $100 billion that NASA put into the economy last year. 

 

The next time you use the internet, cell phone, microwave, see a smoke detector, use the breaks in your car or receive a MRI. Think about the space program. Think about how the space industry has contributed to the betterment of life on Earth. Would some of these technologies have been invented or improved without humans exploring space. Possibility, but space has forced us to think outside the box.

NASA spin-off technologies

Hey this isn't a Sony play station discussion what are you doing here?  Just kidding 

I know you tend to get very defensive but I'm not knocking nasa I tend to support them and agree they are valuable.  But that's not what I was asking about, due to budget cuts and downsizing not sure they brought in $100 billion to the economy last year.  But like the op said this is for a different topic...feel free to create a non playstion thread to discuss if you want.  

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OP  6/24/14 4:02:02 PM#39
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame

 

I would love to read the link that explains the $100 billion that NASA put into the economy last year. 

 

The next time you use the internet, cell phone, microwave, see a smoke detector, use the breaks in your car or receive a MRI. Think about the space program. Think about how the space industry has contributed to the betterment of life on Earth. Would some of these technologies have been invented or improved without humans exploring space. Possibility, but space has forced us to think outside the box.

NASA spin-off technologies

Hey this isn't a Sony play station discussion what are you doing here?  Just kidding 

I know you tend to get very defensive but I'm not knocking nasa I tend to support them and agree they are valuable.  But that's not what I was asking about, due to budget cuts and downsizing not sure they brought in $100 billion to the economy last year.  But like the op said this is for a different topic...feel free to create a non playstion thread to discuss if you want.  

well first off asking for an injection back into the economy from ONE random year in NASAs history is being disingenuous to your intentions and its making such intentions rather transparent.

Do we need to explain that projects of NASA do not nor should not run in maters of fiscal quarters?

please dont try to play both sides...take a stand

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  ElRenmazuo

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6/24/14 4:06:35 PM#40
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
Originally posted by Hockeyisthegame

 

I would love to read the link that explains the $100 billion that NASA put into the economy last year. 

 

The next time you use the internet, cell phone, microwave, see a smoke detector, use the breaks in your car or receive a MRI. Think about the space program. Think about how the space industry has contributed to the betterment of life on Earth. Would some of these technologies have been invented or improved without humans exploring space. Possibility, but space has forced us to think outside the box.

NASA spin-off technologies

I know you tend to get very defensive

I guess you werent getting defensive at all when you randomly started defending the xbox for no reason on that other thread.  And again your responses are typical just as in the other thread.  Someone makes a valid argument and you come back with sarcasm and insults.  Why dont you just google and do some research about the 100 billion dollars and see for your self if its really that important to you?  Other wise dont try to use it for the sake of arguing back out of petty spite.

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