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  syntax.error

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OP  6/17/14 10:41:25 PM#1

Here are my 5

1. Anarchy Online - Even to this day I find myself relearning this game every time I go back to it, very awkward but cool :)

2. Eve Online - This one was a tough one for me and as bad and maybe even more than AO, definitely a deep learning curve.

3. Planet Arkadia - Just a bizarre and different experience I have ever come across in the world of mmorpgs.

4. Face of Mankind - As many times I have tried this game within the last decade, I find myself probably going back to this one to check things out. I never got far into it, but what a crazy experience every time I did log on.

5. Ultima Online - Ahhh, A fantasy game that kept me busy for many years, even now, however I find myself spoiled today with graphics, however I find myself just checking things out in Britannia now and then as well.

 

  Popori

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6/17/14 10:46:19 PM#2

I'd add neocron to your list as well as AC, both were pretty expansive and offered little in the way of 'this is how you don't die/make your character not poop.'

 

Edit:  Though to be honest, making crazy character builds was most of the fun.

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OP  6/17/14 10:48:35 PM#3
Originally posted by Popori
I'd add neocron to your list as well as AC, both were pretty expansive and offered little in the way of 'this is how you don't die/make your character not poop.'

 

I do remember both games quite well, neocron and Asherons Call. The imagination the developers had bad then :)

  Tsumo

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6/17/14 10:54:20 PM#4
Wurm online

  DMKano

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6/17/14 10:57:50 PM#5

Complicated does not necessarily mean deep nor even good.

Complicated game elements that are not beneficial to gameplay (complicated for the sake of complexity - like complicated controls) are detrimental to overall game.

Not sure if anyone here listened to Rob Pardos keynote where he said the first law of game design at Blizzard is "Easy to learn, difficult to master"

 

  syntax.error

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OP  6/17/14 11:03:39 PM#6
Originally posted by Tsumo
Wurm online

 

I have skipped this game many times, but it seems to have a niche crowd of players still following it. I may have to check this one out sometime since it has resurfaced with it's new content.

 

  Azrile

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6/17/14 11:16:26 PM#7

another thing to keep in mind is that  ´complicated´ also sometimes mean unintuitive.  There are plenty of games that I felt were complicated because they made no sense.

One recent one I played had puzzles.  But the puzzles weren´t something you could figure out or solve because you would have to read the devs mind.  So everyone just bookmarked a fansite.

For me, the ´best´ complicated game was DDO because the complication came because of combat options before the fight.  if you went inside a quest ( quests are like mini-dungeons) there were many many different ways to complete the quest.  If you failed the quest, then you had to decide if it was because you didn´t execute your tactic well, or because you should change tactics.   IN that game, I played a stealth mage that  focused on mind controlling stuff.   I could push the limits of the difficulty of quests and because of my character makeup, I had many many different ways to try to beat it.

EVE to me felt like a complicated spreadsheet.  The difficulty felt too much about meta-gaming, and not really ingame.  Combat was very very uncomplicated though.

  Greymantle4

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6/17/14 11:16:46 PM#8

1 Star Wars Galaxies and Eve Online

2: Ultima Online

3: A Tale In The Desert

4: Xsyon

  remyburke

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6/17/14 11:24:36 PM#9

Hmmm.

 

EVE

Ryzom

WURM

SWG

EQ1 (because it was my first MMO)

 

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  Skooma2

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6/17/14 11:25:06 PM#10

1.  The Secret World

2.  Everything else.

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  Inf666

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6/18/14 3:47:32 AM#11

1. Eve online (Everything the first few months)

2. Star wars galaxies (As a Bio Engineer, crafting)

3. Secret world (Investigation missions, skill combos)

4. Path of exile (Skill system / skill tree, but not really a MMO)

5. Guild wars 1 (Skill system)

So far most MMOs I have played, especially in the last few years, cannot be classified as complicated in any way and do not deserve to be mentioned here.

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  Phry

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6/18/14 4:03:32 AM#12

1. Eve Online

2. Asherons Call

3. Starwars Galaxies

4. Everquest

5. Final Fantasy XIV;ARR.

 

While i would agree that the degree of complexity to a game does not mean it has depth, a lack of it is usually an indication that it does not, although there are exceptions. For 5th place i was in 2 minds whether to add DF;UW instead, as the degree of complexity of the game does seem to be 'increasing' and not in a bad way i'm thinking.

  Utinni

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6/18/14 4:31:40 AM#13

1. Ultima

2. Asherons call

3. Horizons

4. Anarchy 

5. SWG

  syntax.error

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OP  6/18/14 8:45:32 AM#14

I notice some of you put SWG in your top 5, I didn't put SWG in my top 5, but would have easily made it in my top 10.

I would say the 1st 6 months in that game, I pretty much didn't know what the hell I was doing, I didn't have any goals and was just immersed in the whole SWG experience.

Then reading the forums and I believe a website called MPStrategies at the time showed several profession builds and then my SWG adventures continued. I loved the creature handler / rifleman spec during the times, but soon CH was nerfed, went to the Jedi killer template. Man I miss them days.

But yeah, I would say SWG did have a learning curve as well, since there were no '?' to npc's for missions and a rail system. I will always remember getting owned by kreetles, worrts, scyk and squills in mos eisleys as a spring chicken.

It was a wake up call for me to learn to play the game correctly, lol!

  sirphobos

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6/18/14 8:50:13 AM#15
Asherons Call followed by EQ1. Not really sure after that.
  Grimfargo

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6/18/14 8:56:49 AM#16

1) Eve Online

 

2) Neocron

 

3)Ryzom

 

4)Everquest

 

5)Ultima Online

  Lord.Bachus

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6/18/14 8:59:25 AM#17

DnD

EQ

Vanguard

Horizons

 

 

In general i dont like it when games become to complicated.... I prefer action

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  honken_moon

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6/18/14 9:03:14 AM#18

1. EVE online. 

2. Nope. Havn't found any other complicated MMORPGs out there since 04 when I began playing MMOs. Would love to find one though. If it's complicated it's most likely also more entertaining, at least for me. 

  Billr00

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6/18/14 9:07:27 AM#19

1.  Eve Online - "I can make anything? really?"

2.  Anarchy Online - "I have to get what buff to wear this armor? Where do I get that?" lol

3.  Ryzom - Just generally a different MMO experience 

4.  SWG - Old school with unlocking Jedi .. "But I don't want to learn to dance!" lol

5.  ??? - not sure for number 5 .. haven't played Secret World, or WURM but hear they are pretty complicated .. probably go with Asheron's Call though 

 

  Malvious

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6/18/14 9:08:37 AM#20
1. WoW verry hrad. 

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