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  nbtscan

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5/29/14 3:45:43 PM#21
I don't think there's any game worth $150.00, let alone one in an Alpha stage, but for those who feel they got their money's worth, good on them.  I may give it a look when it's free to try, but I'm kind of at the point in my life where if I get burnt out on the current MMO I'm playing, I think I'm done with them altogether.  I recently got around to playing GTA5's online component months after buying the game and that was pretty fun for me.  I think I'm going to stick to more single player games with online components in the future.
  SirBalin

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5/29/14 3:53:01 PM#22
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by jigo86
Originally posted by Creslin321

I hope it does well when it comes out...the spawn camping gankers worry me though...

thats one of the parts im looking forward to.. reminds me of wow classic where the world was still filed with players to kill

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I love me some PvP.  And I have absolutely no problem with getting ganked while questing in a PvP area.  And you are right, there are plenty of players to kill in AA.

I only get annoyed that 50's spawn camping level 30's seems so rampant.  And even if you kill the 50's, it makes no difference, they are back almost immediately, and you wind up having to wait like 90 seconds to spawn because of repeated ganking.

 

This isn't one of those games where a 30 can't beat a 50.  Sure, the 50 has a major advantage, but the combat is so quick, kind of like L2 without a CP bar, that if a level 30 hops out and has the right build, they can kill you.  Again, not saying it's all the time, but many games one level difference and it's over...here, you can never think it's gg.

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  SirBalin

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5/29/14 3:54:08 PM#23
Originally posted by nbtscan
I don't think there's any game worth $150.00, let alone one in an Alpha stage, but for those who feel they got their money's worth, good on them.  I may give it a look when it's free to try, but I'm kind of at the point in my life where if I get burnt out on the current MMO I'm playing, I think I'm done with them altogether.  I recently got around to playing GTA5's online component months after buying the game and that was pretty fun for me.  I think I'm going to stick to more single player games with online components in the future.

I'll be the first to say I got my money's worth,...however, the title, "alpha stage" was a money ploy imo.  The game is ready for launch today...no real bugs, smooth, no lag...translation and that's it.

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  Kaneth

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5/29/14 4:01:19 PM#24
Originally posted by SirBalin
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by jigo86
Originally posted by Creslin321

I hope it does well when it comes out...the spawn camping gankers worry me though...

thats one of the parts im looking forward to.. reminds me of wow classic where the world was still filed with players to kill

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I love me some PvP.  And I have absolutely no problem with getting ganked while questing in a PvP area.  And you are right, there are plenty of players to kill in AA.

I only get annoyed that 50's spawn camping level 30's seems so rampant.  And even if you kill the 50's, it makes no difference, they are back almost immediately, and you wind up having to wait like 90 seconds to spawn because of repeated ganking.

 

This isn't one of those games where a 30 can't beat a 50.  Sure, the 50 has a major advantage, but the combat is so quick, kind of like L2 without a CP bar, that if a level 30 hops out and has the right build, they can kill you.  Again, not saying it's all the time, but many games one level difference and it's over...here, you can never think it's gg.

From the streams I've watched, I'd agree. I've seen plenty of streamers get jumped when they were severely out leveled (level 50 jumping a 25 for example) and the streamer wiped the floor with em. So at least there is room for personal skill to shine. 

  Proudsoul1

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5/29/14 8:37:04 PM#25
Originally posted by silvermember
Considered you paid about 99.99 bucks to get into the alpha, I am nearly certain you will return just after playing for a week. How about they release the percentage after 1 month, in a few weeks.

Alpha Founders pack =$150.00

$75.00 worth of cash shop coins

$45.00/3 months Patron status ( you need this to own a house or a farm and other perks)

$????? worth of in-game gear (the best Glider,hearafter stones, pet healing potions,6 chests, title with +3 to all stats,cloak with +3 to all stats, Potion that allows your own emblem for sails/cloaks 4 days head start and a few other things .

So ..did I pay $150 for Alpha access or did I buy a collectors edition of a game I will be playing for a very long time that had a bonus of the alpha that I can learn to play the game and be ready when the game releases. You decide.

  Viper482

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Joined: 11/04/10
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5/29/14 10:47:47 PM#26
Originally posted by Creslin321

Yeah I got the email as well.  The alpha server definitely seems pretty populated and I am really enjoying the game as well :).

I hope it does well when it comes out...the spawn camping gankers worry me though...

It should worry you because it tends to ruin pvp in every game it happens in. 

  Burntvet

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5/29/14 10:58:49 PM#27

If I blew $150 on alpha access for a F2P game, I'd be trying to get my money out of it too.

And really, do you think people are going to stop playing after paying that?

I'll bet they brag about their 60-90 day retention level too, when it happens, never mind that people that bought the $150 bag, paid for that time whether they use it or not.

 

Not particularly impressive.

  Torvaldr

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5/29/14 11:40:46 PM#28
Originally posted by Burntvet

If I blew $150 on alpha access for a F2P game, I'd be trying to get my money out of it too.

And really, do you think people are going to stop playing after paying that?

I'll bet they brag about their 60-90 day retention level too, when it happens, never mind that people that bought the $150 bag, paid for that time whether they use it or not.

Not particularly impressive.

If they have impressive retention at 60 and 90 days it will be impressive. People spend $135 on a collector's edition and 3 months sub for most games yet we don't always hear about impressive retention. Gamers don't keep playing a game if they don't like it, they rant and rage on the forums instead. We don't see Zenimax tooting the horn over ESO right now so just because someone spends a lot on a game ($80+) doesn't mean they'll keep playing it.

I do think those that have bought in now are probably the target demographic so they're more likely to be in the retention pool. We'll see how it pans out at 60, 90, 180, and a year after the unwashed masses get in and flavor the soup.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Wolfhammer

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Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 491

Bleh!

5/30/14 12:13:58 AM#29
Originally posted by Quesa
Originally posted by tyfon

I just got an email from Trion CEO, as did the other founders.

What was quite cool and I personally can relate to was:

After the first week, we saw that more than 80% of you were still playing every day and we upgraded it again

 

It's now been three weeks for me, and my wife and me have not been this hooked on a game in a long time :)

 

 

They also mentioned server upgrades and the beta progress, but I guess the email will be in some articles soon on this and other sites.

These are people who liked what they saw so much that they dropped big bucks to be part of the testing process including some mechanics that involve time based activities.  This not only means that the population to sample from is HIGHLY biased but that some game activities highly encourage logging in at least once per day (farming).

All of this makes it nothing more than a meaningless propaganda post that you slopped up an regurgitated for them which isn't really a negative but highlights how this entire thread is kinda dumb.

Not nearly as dumb & meaningless as your post old chap..  Some people can't handle decent news about a game they feel threatened by  eh?

OP, you and the Mrs carry on enjoying the crap out of the game and ignore Victor Meldrew here.  

Happy weekend all :)

  Apraxis

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5/30/14 7:29:23 AM#30
Originally posted by Siveria
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by jigo86
Originally posted by Creslin321

I hope it does well when it comes out...the spawn camping gankers worry me though...

thats one of the parts im looking forward to.. reminds me of wow classic where the world was still filed with players to kill

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I love me some PvP.  And I have absolutely no problem with getting ganked while questing in a PvP area.  And you are right, there are plenty of players to kill in AA.

I only get annoyed that 50's spawn camping level 30's seems so rampant.  And even if you kill the 50's, it makes no difference, they are back almost immediately, and you wind up having to wait like 90 seconds to spawn because of repeated ganking.

 

 

Thats the problem with open pvp games, the playerbase today is full of cowards who won't fight anyone their own level, in fact they will run like a dog with its tail between its legs if anyone who can fight them shows up.

In other news: I'll probally not play AA because it has open pvp, because games with open pvp have terrible community and terrible players infesting them. Nothing but gankers who are too much if a bunch of chickens to fight someone their own level so they pick on people who can't fight back. All I can say is this game is pretty much doomed if this doesn't change. Open pvp games do not make it in todays market much at all in the usa/canada, and its due to the immaturity of the playerbase itself.

These types of open pvp games work in Asia and such because the players there have something the players here don't: respect for one another.  In most mmo's with open pvp in non-usa/canadian countires, they never have these max level camping people half their level problems that plague ones in the us/canada. Its not pvp when all your doing is ganking people half your level, thats just that player being a coward who is to scared to fight anyone their own skill/char level.

Anyway, Unless I can stay out of the pvp area's for the entire game because I cba to bother with those cowards that play in those area's that spawn camp and such, I'll probally not touch AA, and I know I am not the only one who is like this. I like pvp when I have a choice when I want to fight and that the fighting is in a balanced zone (like lv restrictions if above x level you cannot enter said zone, like arena pvp brackets in alot of mmos its like 30-35, 36-40, 41-45 etc), but I dislike it when it is forced on me by a game, especally when its against people who I can't even have a fair fight with that  just spawn camp/kill people half their level all day, its just no fun like this, and if you have fun spawn camping/ganking people half your level, there is something wrong with you, and to me (and many others even the real pvpers who are lv capped and only fight people their own level range) your a coward who is scared of a real fight.

Either way, the immature spawn campers/low lv gankers is what usually kills games with open pvp, people will only take being ganked second they leave town by people they can't even fight back against  for so long before they just get sick of it and just can't be bothered with the game anymore, its caused more than 1 open pvp mmorpg released in recent years to die off and close down due to lack of interest.

Comment directed to the part in orange:

Don't worry.. you can stay out of pvp area's as long as you want.. absolutely no need to ever enter an area in pvp mode.

 

Comment for everything else:

Typically overreacting post with no whatsoever substance. Over there everything is better.. blabla. All pvp player are cowards, evil, scumbags and immature.. blabla

 

About spawn camping in pvp areas(and it will you affect only there.. with other words not relevant for pve player):

They should fix it..because that one is really a easy fixable problem. And most pvp players don't like that either.. but there are always a few, which will do everything, what is possible(exploiting, cheating, griefing). Though they are a very small minority.. but that is a matter to good game design to avoid as much as possible holes.. or fix them very fast.. and the second would be don't be shy with the banhammer against cheater and botter.

 

  lttexxan

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5/30/14 7:42:10 AM#31

89.4% of ALL statistics are made up 64.7% of the time.

This is 100% true usually 76.4% of the time.

But hey it was posted by the company that is trying to sell a free to play game to a bunch of rubes for $150.00 and make them feel good about staying in it for an ENTIRE week!

I checked the stats myself.

This is 47.8% accurate to my investigation.

It's better to lurk in forums and be thought a fool...than to endlessly "Quote" and remove all doubts.

  xAPOCx

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5/30/14 7:48:30 AM#32
Originally posted by lttexxan

89.4% of ALL statistics are made up 64.7% of the time.

This is 100% true usually 76.4% of the time.

But hey it was posted by the company that is trying to sell a free to play game to a bunch of rubes for $150.00 and make them feel good about staying in it for an ENTIRE week!

I checked the stats myself.

This is 47.8% accurate to my investigation.

Isent this a p2p with f2p option?

  Purutzil

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The Critical Hit Pretzel!

5/30/14 7:56:44 AM#33

I'd hope people are playing that much, they are paying such an outrageous price of $150 to TEST a game that only needs localization. Its a shame founders packs are the biggest rip off of the consumer in some time, its pre-order on crack. Its fine for some indies who need the money to thrive but big companies like Trion doing it is just horrid. 

 

Ranting aside, again $150. I'd really hope a lot of people are getting the most TESTING the game out if your paying in that huge of a fee to test. 

  Deathsmind

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5/30/14 8:02:34 AM#34
Originally posted by Purutzil

I'd hope people are playing that much, they are paying such an outrageous price of $150 to TEST a game that only needs localization. Its a shame founders packs are the biggest rip off of the consumer in some time, its pre-order on crack. Its fine for some indies who need the money to thrive but big companies like Trion doing it is just horrid. 

 

Ranting aside, again $150. I'd really hope a lot of people are getting the most TESTING the game out if your paying in that huge of a fee to test. 

Theres only about 20% if that still playing ESO they paid $80 to test the game. Whats the difference? I rather pay a little more for a huge increase in retention. 

  oboc

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5/30/14 8:12:43 AM#35
It's nice we have a few choices out there atm. Some will play ESO, some AA and other WS. The choice is your's ! What ever floats you're mouse. Game on !
  mark2123

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5/30/14 8:17:34 AM#36
There's a lot of people on here being negative about anyone who paid for the Alpha.  It's their money and they can enjoy it how they want to.  Don't be jealous that you can't afford to pay such a price (if you are not interested, then why are you on this forum?)
  rutaq

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5/30/14 8:17:57 AM#37
Originally posted by Quesa
Originally posted by tyfon

I just got an email from Trion CEO, as did the other founders.

What was quite cool and I personally can relate to was:

After the first week, we saw that more than 80% of you were still playing every day and we upgraded it again

 

It's now been three weeks for me, and my wife and me have not been this hooked on a game in a long time :)

 

 

They also mentioned server upgrades and the beta progress, but I guess the email will be in some articles soon on this and other sites.

These are people who liked what they saw so much that they dropped big bucks to be part of the testing process including some mechanics that involve time based activities.  This not only means that the population to sample from is HIGHLY biased but that some game activities highly encourage logging in at least once per day (farming).

All of this makes it nothing more than a meaningless propaganda post that you slopped up an regurgitated for them which isn't really a negative but highlights how this entire thread is kinda dumb.

 

It is true that we don't have any hard numbers for the orders of the Founder Pack Alpha access but it would be nearsighted to dismiss the population as meaningless propaganda.  Game mechanics that encourage daily play are actually a good thing for developers, they keep customers paying .    Given the current success and population during the pay $ 150 to play phase things can only grow when the Beta phase starts this summer.

 

Trion may be patting themselves on the back a bit but I am sure most developers would love to be in their situation with thousands and thousands of Alpha supporters paying $ 150 to test/pay their game.

 

 

 

 

  tiglie

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5/30/14 8:24:33 AM#38

I was really really really hesitant to buy the alpha, but I have been waiting for this game for so long now.  My refund for the shitshow known as ESO helped seal the deal, as I was essentially buying the alpha for normalish game price.  I could not be any happier.  FINALLY, an open PvP non-indie developed bugfest with TONS of content.  This thing is a dream.  

For everyone complaining about the open PvP, this is not your game.  You have 100 boring instanced PvP PvE titles to choose from.  Just don't play.  

This game is about player driven conflict and economics.  If you do not know how to play socially there is no point.  You cry about no-life, anti-social PK behavior and do not get the point.  You are the anti-social one.  PKing drives conflict, you call in your friends, or if you are high level, you drop what you are doing, and go actually help someone for the sake of helping, for the sake of conflict.  We create our own carrots here.

  Distopia

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5/30/14 8:27:24 AM#39
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by Burntvet

If I blew $150 on alpha access for a F2P game, I'd be trying to get my money out of it too.

And really, do you think people are going to stop playing after paying that?

I'll bet they brag about their 60-90 day retention level too, when it happens, never mind that people that bought the $150 bag, paid for that time whether they use it or not.

Not particularly impressive.

If they have impressive retention at 60 and 90 days it will be impressive. People spend $135 on a collector's edition and 3 months sub for most games yet we don't always hear about impressive retention. Gamers don't keep playing a game if they don't like it, they rant and rage on the forums instead. We don't see Zenimax tooting the horn over ESO right now so just because someone spends a lot on a game ($80+) doesn't mean they'll keep playing it.

I do think those that have bought in now are probably the target demographic so they're more likely to be in the retention pool. We'll see how it pans out at 60, 90, 180, and a year after the unwashed masses get in and flavor the soup.

We're talking about a week of service here, most give an MMO at least a month before they throw in the towel.

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  Jackdog

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5/30/14 8:38:54 AM#40
Originally posted by Purutzil

I'd hope people are playing that much, they are paying such an outrageous price of $150 to TEST a game that only needs localization.

As someone pointed out earlier in the thread 150.00 equals

Alpha access

beta access

four-day head start

Trailblazer title (with stats)

90-day patron pass ($45.00)

6 Daru Chests( in game goodies)

10 evenstones

10 hereafter stones

glass phoenix hang glider

desert assassin platemail

Founder's cloak with customizable logo

 personalizable crest

10 pet healing potions

11,250 game store credits ( $75.00)

Just the store credits and 3 months of patron are $ 120.00 . This is more like purchasing a deluxe edition or collectors edition of the game.

Anyway this evening the wife and I are going to have a pizza and see Maleficent. Pizza and drinks about 30 bucks, movie and snacks another 40 - 50 all for about 4 - 5 hours of entertainment.

I miss DAoC

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