Trending Games | Moonrise | Cabal 2 | Crowfall | Blade & Soul

  Network:  RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,982,636 Users Online:0
Games:827  Posts:6,431,196
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online AD2460 ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord 2 Archlord X Armored Warfare Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Bionic Marine Command Online Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blackguards 2 Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodborne Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chroma Squad Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crowfall Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Heart Online Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dying Light Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthlock: Festival of Magic Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Fable Legends Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
GRAV GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods Rush Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Hand of Fate Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Immune Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online Kill Strain King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lords of the Fallen 2 Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Hunter 4: Ultimate Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Necropolis Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Nova Genesis Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Chronicles Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Coast Legends Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Banner Saga 2 The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Trapped Dead: Lockdown Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utherous Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles 3D Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik Discussion Forums

General Discussion

General Discussion 

News & Features Discussion  » [Column] General: Recapturing that Old MUD Feeling

2 Pages 1 2 » Search
40 posts found

Associate Editor - News Manager

Joined: 6/28/10
Posts: 15635

OP  5/26/14 4:16:50 PM#1

Before there was Ultima Online and Everquest, or even Meridian 59, there were MUDs. Standing for “Multi User Dungeon,” MUDs were the original MMOs. Played on mainframes with text descriptions and a simple command line, with no sound, no graphics, not even a map, you typed out your movements and actions in the game and waited to see the server’s response. You connected via your dial-up modem at 300 baud, and there were perhaps 20-30 players online at any given time.

Read more of Mark Kern's Recapturing that Old MUD Feeling.

Associate Editor:
Follow me on Twitter: @MMORPGMom


Advanced Member

Joined: 9/07/05
Posts: 35

5/27/14 2:22:27 PM#2

I played a lot of MUD's in the day (primarily LPMUD and Diku MUD's). None of the MUD's I played on had anything resembling a GM that actually interacted with the player base. There were admins (Wizards in LPMUD's for example, which I was on several) that actually built the world (LPC programming) but at least on the MUD's I played, they were strictly forbidden to interact with players in a game changing fashion.


I do think it would be awesome to have GM driven events in MMO's but given the size of MMO's and number of servers, it would be hard to achieve in a meaningful way. Today this typically is end-of-beta events which almost always turn out to be a horrible gameplay experience in terms of "fun factor". Last example is Wildstar which had devs come in and summon various bosses. There was literally 10-30 second lag, frequent disconnects and even the best computers could barely hope to go above 10 FPS at minimum quality.


As much as it would be cool to see, it doesn't seem likely that it's something that ever will exist on mainstream MMO's. It might be something indie MMO's can pull off, ones with a much smaller player base and a more intimate experience with the developers.




Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/14/14
Posts: 494

5/27/14 2:24:20 PM#3
Amen to this article. I would love to see GM come into the world and actively shake things up. I remember playing Rolemaster Magestorm and randomly GM would pop in and say hi and just check up on things. It always felt like an honor to have them present. It was policing still though. What having GM do by orchestrating NPC's or even be at the controls of a World Boss would definitely add value. It would bring back some of that in game celebrity status that we used to know as well.

Elite Member

Joined: 1/18/06
Posts: 2307

5/27/14 3:18:46 PM#4
I think there would have to be a lot of thought to the fact that some of these GMs would sell their job out just to be "cool" to the players they get to know. But I do think there's huge value to this idea if proper safeguards can be installed into the system. And the game itself would need to be designed with this in mind.

Once upon a time....


Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/06/14
Posts: 75

5/27/14 4:06:49 PM#5
So how many GM's were ever in Firefall to do all that cool stuff? None. Players policing the community themselves? LOL Go take a look at how well that is working in Archeage where people are abusing the hell out of the report system and using it as a pvp tool. This guy has no clue what he's talking about. 

Defender of Worlds

Joined: 5/20/04
Posts: 3450

I actually still like MMORPGs

5/27/14 4:22:03 PM#6

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem practical. With all the problems your support team was facing in WoW. Do you think it would have helped if the GM said "sorry, I can't get your items back fierce Warrior but I can summon special demons for you to fight!"

It wasn't like your support team didn't already have problems they were facing. If automated systems could be effective I think they would have already been developed? no? That sort of thing tends to piss customers off unfortunately.

"if your account has been hacked please press 1 now"



Elite Member

Joined: 5/12/10
Posts: 2550

5/27/14 5:07:13 PM#7

Nostalgia is great, there was a MUD article not while ago, I wrote there as well that it'd be great to bring back some aspects of MUDs - but highly unlikely it will ever happen, sadly. 20 years passed, that's a huge amount of time in IT and gaming.

Not to mention, from all those aspects, GM events? As neotron wrote above, it was even against the rules in many MUDs (true, I too played on a few which had a more open policy on this matter), and on the other hand it's not a rare thing today, I used to cite Codies LotRO for an example of GM events, but even at Turbine there's a few, like the Hobbit to Isengard series at the moment, or the Ettenmoors event was.


What I would love to see from the MUD / MUSH era is the totally open access to the game code. There's the Foundry in STO and Neverwinter, and it's great, but still that's only used for missions. Maybe the release of AC servers from Turbine will jumpstart the modding aspect in the genre. It won't be as free as MUDs were, simply due the tech changes. That era is gone already. C and LPC was so clean and easy, if you had the inspiration you could write a whole area with storylines and npc's and quests in a weekend. A good one, I mean.


Actually, I don't think we could "recapture the old MUD feeling", ever. We can play MUDs today too, obviously, but that's not even close to the original times. Back then, it was a close and tight community, with frequent offline meet-ups, etc. We can't go back to that, because the world is changed. I mean, the internet was still pretty much rare, which already narrowed down the "accessible" playerbase to college (and later high school) people. Today the net is more common than clean air.

Accounts were also rare, usually one net access per person (and those who had multiple, were the "chosen few"... I had one in all 3 colleges/unis which had direct access to the backbone in the early '90s. Yep, I was cool :) ), so manners and netiquette actually ment something - if you were once kicked from a game, then it was final, you couldn't just create a new one (not to mention the best games used invite-only character creation). Today obviously that's not the case anymore.

Also it ment there was no altoholism, one user = one character, which was great for manners again, with the smaller playerbase where everyone knew everybody :) Like when on an afternoon we took one of the free practice rooms (20 pc's with net) for some gaming, and "Damn this xxxx, how can he be such a lamer... anyone knows him?" and 2 rows behind a dude said he's in his college and the following day if you hop over with some beer I'll introduce you to him and you can discuss it in person :) 

Good times... the strange thing is I still remember most of the people from my favourite MUD, with faces - and character names. I knew their names too, maybe I could even remember a few of those if I'd try hard, but we called each other on character name irl too, for years :) That's also something not for today. There are famous characters in games, but even they have alts as well. These games are Massively multiplayer now, with thousands of people.


Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/11/04
Posts: 159

5/27/14 5:08:38 PM#8
hate to tell him but MUD are out on pc's as well way after mainframes days.i was playing a mud as well as everquest.yes you can forget getting online help now days or even in some cases mmorpg i put in a service request for pw reset,as i was not getting the email.9 months later i still had not heard back and had long since gave up.after a year i finally did hear back saying my request had expired and to resubmit it.what a joke.

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/18/04
Posts: 105

5/27/14 6:49:36 PM#9

I admined on Paradox mud  for years from the start and 3 others.

Sadly what U can runinto is the gms leading guilds and overpowering them. 

Gm run events do add spice to any live game.

The trouble with any scripted game is it gets boaring fast.

on Paradox we had one coder that coded everything randomly so even the zone map was never the same. Of course he went on to work at ms and make the big bucks.



Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/16/14
Posts: 459

5/27/14 7:12:29 PM#10

Let's try to recapture that old neanderthal man feeling... because in essence, you're trying to do the same thing.  For the feeling to be the same, you literally have to teleport back in time, where nothing that you know now or experienced is even in your imagination yet.  Can't be done.  Sure, you can reminisce and have nostalgia and all, but it will never be the same again, ever.


This is why trying to recapture the past fails when the past is still fresh in your mind.  You can do a remake of a movie, and do it incredibly badly and still make a mint, so long as those watching it have no clue about the original.  Once they have a frame of reference, everything changes.


This is why MMOs are in a rut... they recycle stuff that we've all seen and done before... sure they slap a different coat of paint on it but at its very core, it's still the same.


What I miss are the puzzle-like games that Sierra did... you know, where if you did even one thing incorrectly, you could never solve the puzzle... and it happily let you do it and let you continue on in the game without letting you know you screwed up the second quest in.  Imagine finding out when you were level 90 that your chance at the holy grail weapon was trounced the moment you chose not to collect 5 apples for the little boy by the road.  Can't undo that oversight after the fact.  


That was the old MUD feeling... whatever your imagination dreamed up... because guess what, you had to use your imagination back then.  Today it's far too visual, far too voiced over, far too much spoon fed everything.  You claim you want to play a game as a distraction, but only if it doesn't occupy your time.  Really?  And just why are you playing games in the first place?  To occupy your time.  Who cares if it takes 12 years to make level 1... it's 12 years well spent compared to the .0006 nanoseconds you spend in game now.


Elite Member

Joined: 4/29/13
Posts: 514

5/27/14 7:19:20 PM#11
I found muds more immersive then the current genre.  I was the General of the Draconian Army.  I had first hand men and women and they all had identities.  It meant something to be the Commander of the army and it meant something to lead that army and be a member of that army.  There is so much that we had back then that was lost and there is also much that has been gained.  Yes I do miss the days when a GM would take control of this really evil monster and ravage the town killing city guards and spouting about their evil plans for the universe.  The members of the armies would gather to battle such a beast to great rewards and fun roleplaying.  We are talking about 17 years ago and the current genre has not even come close to replicating these instances.  I don't look for it to happen either.

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/15/08
Posts: 3656

5/27/14 7:45:39 PM#12
Ive tried several MUDs over the years, usualyl after getting burnt out on mainstream MMOs, and just never could find oen that I really liked...usually there was something about the game that was totally gamebreaking.

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/28/04
Posts: 675

5/27/14 7:59:16 PM#13
It seems like most MMOs launch with their customer service not in the role of "game police" when they are so much needed. Perhaps at some point a few months after launch when things quiet down a bit, they could be re-purposed or replaced by tools. But after ESO's recent launch, it was quite obvious that a greater hands-on involvement was needed by game police.

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/08/08
Posts: 20

5/27/14 8:05:20 PM#14
Your time is up, Kern.  Attempt to re enter the hearts and minds of gamers somewhere else.  Even if this recent deluge of articles has something remotely interesting in it to discuss, the fact that you destroyed your reputation is all I can focus on.

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/10/13
Posts: 834


5/27/14 8:48:19 PM#15

And yet you had your very own MMO with which to utilize all these ideas, yet completely and utterly failed to do so. A picture may be worth a thousand words, but actions speak louder than any photo album.

You had your chance, and you blew it big time. You're a has-been who's desperately trying to become relevant in the MMORPG industry again, perhaps with the hope that people will once again be swayed by your grand ideals and hollow promises to hand over their hard-earned money.

Forget it. You're done, and nothing you say will change that.


AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!


Level Designer - CCP Games

Joined: 2/02/06
Posts: 27

5/27/14 8:50:49 PM#16

What you describe in the last section of your article is pretty much exactly what we did when we ran the Sansha live events in EVE Online a couple years ago. We even recruited members of the customer service team to help out, just as you suggested. You know what? It was absolutely fantastic!


I would just pop into a moderately-populated region of the map, go invisible, spawn a swarm of NPC bad guys, and do a supervillain monologue on the public chat channel. A few minutes later, anywhere from a dozen to (at one event) 1,700 players would fly in to be part of the battle.


And the best part was that, since all of EVE takes place in one "world," the events really mattered. They became the news of the day. Players spread word to each other and attendance grew event by event.


Seriously, it was a blast. Check out some of the YouTube clips:


Novice Member

Joined: 1/07/07
Posts: 56

5/27/14 8:57:10 PM#17
nathanknaack, that's really cool. EvE always did have the best events. Would love to see this spread to other games!

Follow me on <a href="">Twitter: @Grummz</a>


Novice Member

Joined: 1/07/07
Posts: 56

5/27/14 9:15:50 PM#18
The news part is the best, the talk about it for days later. Great stories, great moments. We've lost a lot of that in modern MMOs. Next article is going to touch on another thing we've lost: downtime.

Follow me on <a href="">Twitter: @Grummz</a>


Novice Member

Joined: 10/19/11
Posts: 6

5/27/14 9:21:31 PM#19

Mark, your articles always inspire me a lot. Thanks!

Oh, to the haters: "Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as you please." --Mark Twain


Advanced Member

Joined: 2/17/08
Posts: 247

5/27/14 10:22:50 PM#20
It's been such a long time since I've enjoyed muds. I tried to play a few a couple years back, but I just didn't get the same feel. Dragonrealms, gemstone 3 heck even the herc and xena mud were fun. Once in awhile the gms would even give you a learning/exp bonus if your rping wasn't half bad for the situation they were acting out. I'm still waiting for more mmos to try and adapt the mud mechanics into them.
2 Pages 1 2 » Search