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  aslan132

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Joined: 10/01/07
Posts: 301

5/23/14 10:17:17 AM#21

Ok so Im not a fanboi or anything, as Im not going to defend the game, but I havent had a single issue with the patch. Before you all go nuts, yes I do know the bugs are real. I have read the forums, and many, many people are being effected by the problems listed. They are very real, and will give you a very bad gaming experience if you encounter them.

 

All Im saying is that not everyons is effected by these issues. Sure it seems like a lot. Because there are hundreds of posts, but thats just because only the people having problems are the ones posting. For every post of one person having an issue, theres 100 people not having a single bug at all. Even the one quest I still had bugged from launch was now working, and I have completed Deshaan now. 

 

The new campaign works fine for me, never had a load screen issue. My guild even ran the Archives raid last night. We wiped alot lol. Reset about 12 times (because you only have 36 lives, or 3 wipes per go). Never had the teleporters not work, even though its a known issue that sometimes they dont. 

 

I dont know what to say. Maybe im touched by the MMO gods, but myself, my GF and the 42 other people in my guild have not encountered a single bug since the patch. Maybe you guys should app to my guild, as it seems we cant be effected by the plague rofl. 

  Gravarg

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Joined: 8/24/06
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5/23/14 10:46:13 AM#22

Anyone who complains about the VR mob changes obviously is a solo player.  I've been playing with friends and I've had no problems at all killing groups of 10-15.  We pull the entire camp and aoe em down XD  I don't understand why people go solo in an MMO, when the whole purpose of an MMO is to be social.

 

The only other thing I've had happen, is in the zone The Rift.  I got disconnected twice in a span of like 2 hours, which rolled me back like 4-5 minutes total.  And it's nice to see my NB actually have the correct Critical Strike chance,  makes our dps match that of sorc :)

  apocoluster

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Posts: 1295

\m/,

5/23/14 11:40:17 AM#23
Originally posted by alexhpy98721

Its not unfair hate... i bought 6 months worth of GTC`s... i liked the game... but first i was stuck in the main quests, then my bank inventory vanished and i did not even get a reply to my ticket...  then the bots invaded and i had to compete with them on my alt, then various other bugs like PvP buffs not applying, UI was showing i had 30% hp all the time with NO addon enabled,  DW skills were making the game unresponsive and making you unable to do anything...

I could go on, there are many other bugs i personally experienced... but i think i`ve made my point. The game will be nice WHEN IT WILL ACTUALLY WORK... but right now any fun will be destroyed by bugs.

With polish it will be a decent game so i think you should wait for them to fix things(at this rate it will take 6-9 months, i`m guessing about the same time it releases on consoles) and get it... but wait unless you want to be a paying Game Tester....

 

I've only ever seen 1 One Uno ichi und bug since 5 day head start. Guess I'm just that lucky and awesome (=

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  simsalabim77

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Joined: 4/27/13
Posts: 613

5/23/14 11:46:22 AM#24

99 little bugs in the code

99 little bugs in the code

Take one down, patch it around

127 bugs in the code

  dumpcat

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Joined: 3/06/12
Posts: 233

5/23/14 11:52:10 AM#25
I have had one issue since the patch. My horse is way to loud when sprinting. My loading screen time is normal, graphic changes ...better...better detail and godrays look better. No issues on my Templar either. I guess I'm still one of the lucky ones...or people like to exaggerate.
  azzamasin

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Joined: 6/06/12
Posts: 2718

We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality.

5/23/14 12:02:01 PM#26
Originally posted by alexhpy98721
Originally posted by coorsguys

It's funny how it's always the same few screaming the sky is falling about eso.  It's nice that 99% of the other haters have moved on and we are left with the dedicated few .  I love your list btw!  

 

Every single ones has a few key phrases.  "Some people" "many people" "most people". Any chance you have some evidence of this?  And also what is your definition or difference of "some" "many " and "most".  Well enjoy your continued doom and gloom.  

Are you really saying i`m making it up?

Have a look here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/EN-customer-support - Its their Official Customer Support forum.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/EN-general-discussion - this is their General Discussion forum.

You will see all the problems listed + many more on the first pages with a lot of people saying the same thing.

So there you go... you have proof. What next?

Never reason with a fanboy.  You can have all the proof in the world and they'll never budge an inch on their love for the game.  Even in the face of reason and sense.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  seafirex

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Joined: 12/08/06
Posts: 261

5/23/14 12:17:12 PM#27

Will try to help here i hope it will fix some issue some of you guys are having. I dont play ESO but i am sure the fix i am giving you guys now will solve issue of lot's of players that have AMD cards and did not upgrade since february or march.

 

I know a week or so ago on another mmorpg we notice that those with AMD 14.1 drivers where getting lot's of issue's in-games in general but more specificaly on recent games. They where ask to upgrade to latest 14.4 and that fixed the issue's the players had. 

issue players getting : Major FPS drops, lag, d/c, things not showing up on screen even with reload ui option used eg: quest markers or npc not showing up on screen to turn in the quest, and could go on and on. 

So If you have a AMD card, you must uninstall ( important dont skip options here) uninstall the drivers 14.1 or lower then delete the AMD folder on c: drive. Then reboot and install new drivers 14.4.  

-----> Again don't just upgrade the drivers uninstall everything first then delete that folder then reboot and install new drivers.

 

It fixed the issue of everyone with a AMD card and now the games are playing correctly. I hope this will help the ESO players that have some issue. I am very sure it won't fix everything for everyone but it can and will help some players that are still on the old drivers.

 

  Naral

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Joined: 1/07/10
Posts: 751

5/23/14 3:00:22 PM#28

I was having a ton of fun with this game until this patch. I now lose quests, (my journal lost all but three quests, just poof, gone, and they are not retakable) rubber band both in lag terms and periodically just get sent back to the nearest wayshrine for no reason whatsoever. Just walking along, then boom, I get ported to a wayshrine.

Congratulations, Zeni, you just sold another copy of Wildstar.

  Loke666

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Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 16610

5/23/14 3:11:04 PM#29
Originally posted by alexhpy98721

We are not ignorants... i just used GTC`s but i`m trying to get a refund as this is... beyond bad.

I had no clue it will be so bad at launch AND only get worse after the first major patch....

Am I the only one getting a flashback to AoC?

Seriously though, the problem is probably Zenimax lack of MMO experience. They both tried to add lots of stuff and fix bugs + performance at the same time. That always fails.

They need to focus on fixing bugs and performance first, once the game runs as intended with few bugs they can start add new stuff. I don't care if it isn't the same people fixing the bugs and optimizing the engine that makes the new content, they can still save it for a huge patch later when everything is working as intended.

  stalker989

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Joined: 12/17/07
Posts: 25

5/23/14 3:15:18 PM#30
Originally posted by alexhpy98721

"After the update:

 

......

 

So yea... they should really hire testers...."

 

There is no incentive for companies to hire, or even use testers anymore. Most "gamers" are now willing to pay publishers to play unfinished versions of games (e.g. early access). Therefore, companies will only utilize what information they receive (if then) from those who are willing to pay money for an unfinished product. Until "gamers" stop paying for what was once basically beta testing, then players will continue to receive the quality of games they are getting.

 

 

  Entropy14

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/14/10
Posts: 660

5/23/14 3:22:00 PM#31
Oh remember the good old days when people where bragging how awesome the launch was, how it was the best and most stable launch ever.
  Naral

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Joined: 1/07/10
Posts: 751

5/23/14 3:31:50 PM#32
Originally posted by Entropy14
Oh remember the good old days when people where bragging how awesome the launch was, how it was the best and most stable launch ever.

Heh. The launch was good, for me at least. Now, not so much. But then I was never really a fanboi. I play, I have fun, if I don't I move on.

 

I guess they have until June 3 to wow me.

  Gravarg

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Joined: 8/24/06
Posts: 3094

5/23/14 3:46:30 PM#33
Originally posted by Naral
Originally posted by Entropy14
Oh remember the good old days when people where bragging how awesome the launch was, how it was the best and most stable launch ever.

Heh. The launch was good, for me at least. Now, not so much. But then I was never really a fanboi. I play, I have fun, if I don't I move on.

 

I guess they have until June 3 to wow me.

Yeah the launch was good for me too.  Either people are lying or maybe it's their computer, I don't know.  But when I got 8 characters all over 40, one of which is VR12 (yay aoe grinding lol).  I've only gotten 4, yes 4, bugs.  One of which was across all my AD characters, but a simple relog fixed every single bug I found.  And it seems the server rollback issue was fixed last night.  All 4 bugs I've had have been fixed in the last patch...I guess it comes down to haters gonna hate.  If you play ESO thinking it's Skyrim Online, you're going to be a hater.  If you play it thinking it's an MMO, it's a great MMO. Not the best I've ever played but it's not the horrible launched, buggy, can't even log in or connect to patcher server, no skills work at all, buggity bug bug mess people are trying to make it out to be.  Who knows what they're reasoning is, but I suppose it's either misunderstood expectations or "Some men just want to watch the world burn".

  aslan132

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Joined: 10/01/07
Posts: 301

5/23/14 3:55:05 PM#34
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by alexhpy98721
Originally posted by coorsguys

It's funny how it's always the same few screaming the sky is falling about eso.  It's nice that 99% of the other haters have moved on and we are left with the dedicated few .  I love your list btw!  

 

Every single ones has a few key phrases.  "Some people" "many people" "most people". Any chance you have some evidence of this?  And also what is your definition or difference of "some" "many " and "most".  Well enjoy your continued doom and gloom.  

Are you really saying i`m making it up?

Have a look here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/EN-customer-support - Its their Official Customer Support forum.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/EN-general-discussion - this is their General Discussion forum.

You will see all the problems listed + many more on the first pages with a lot of people saying the same thing.

So there you go... you have proof. What next?

Never reason with a fanboy.  You can have all the proof in the world and they'll never budge an inch on their love for the game.  Even in the face of reason and sense.

I think you are missing the point here. Noone is trying to say the bugs dont exist. We all know they do. What you fail to understand is that they only effect a very small number of people. For every person in this thread that says they had bugs, there are hundreds, if not thousands, who arent posting because they are playing a very bug free game. 

 

You can drop all the hate, and call people fanbois all you want, but the truth is what it is. Many people, like myself, have gone through the entire game, even up to vet12 now, yes completing Craglorn content, and everything, without having any bugs. Im very sorry if you are one of those unlucky enough to have a bad experience, but its not going to stop the rest of us from playing. ZOS is doing just fine, and if they lose a small handful of players who are having trouble, it wont hurt their wallets at all. The thousands of paying players who are not having any of those bugs will continue to support them, and watch them crank out even more content. 

 

Have fun in Wildstar. Im enjoying my bug free ESO. 

  LordZeik

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Joined: 2/17/08
Posts: 185

5/23/14 4:28:11 PM#35
There feels like a lot more crashes in pvp atm. Noticed some more group based errors. A few people were telling me some of the addons are related to a few of the crashes going on. When my guys stopped using most of our addons stability increased. There is a memory leak atm so you do need to restart every so often. Liking the difficulty boost to the pvp guards makes things a bit more interesting. Aside from that haven't experienced any of the other bugs you mentioned.
  Brabbit1987

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Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 664

5/23/14 4:45:05 PM#36
Originally posted by aslan132
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by alexhpy98721
Originally posted by coorsguys

It's funny how it's always the same few screaming the sky is falling about eso.  It's nice that 99% of the other haters have moved on and we are left with the dedicated few .  I love your list btw!  

 

Every single ones has a few key phrases.  "Some people" "many people" "most people". Any chance you have some evidence of this?  And also what is your definition or difference of "some" "many " and "most".  Well enjoy your continued doom and gloom.  

Are you really saying i`m making it up?

Have a look here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/EN-customer-support - Its their Official Customer Support forum.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/categories/EN-general-discussion - this is their General Discussion forum.

You will see all the problems listed + many more on the first pages with a lot of people saying the same thing.

So there you go... you have proof. What next?

Never reason with a fanboy.  You can have all the proof in the world and they'll never budge an inch on their love for the game.  Even in the face of reason and sense.

I think you are missing the point here. Noone is trying to say the bugs dont exist. We all know they do. What you fail to understand is that they only effect a very small number of people. For every person in this thread that says they had bugs, there are hundreds, if not thousands, who arent posting because they are playing a very bug free game. 

 

You can drop all the hate, and call people fanbois all you want, but the truth is what it is. Many people, like myself, have gone through the entire game, even up to vet12 now, yes completing Craglorn content, and everything, without having any bugs. Im very sorry if you are one of those unlucky enough to have a bad experience, but its not going to stop the rest of us from playing. ZOS is doing just fine, and if they lose a small handful of players who are having trouble, it wont hurt their wallets at all. The thousands of paying players who are not having any of those bugs will continue to support them, and watch them crank out even more content. 

 

Have fun in Wildstar. Im enjoying my bug free ESO. 

I don't think you really understand very well how game development works. First of all, even if it is a very few people having trouble with bugs, that is still a issue and losing ANY customer is not good for business. 1 customer can easily turn to 10, 10 to 50 .. and those 50 to a 1,000. Why? Because all future potential customers maybe lost as well due to those unsatisfied customers.

You should care, because if it's a game you like to play .. it's important that they don't bleed subs. If they bleed subs, then eventually the game will go F2P or they will have to shut it down. I don't think anyone would be to happy about that. Keeping numbers up is important.

As for how many people who are actually having these issues compared to those who are not ... you have no proof. There is no actual data so you can't just make up a bunch of bullcrap numbers. Also . .just because a person is currently not having any issues with bugs .. doesn't mean they will not come across them at some point. So the amount experiencing these bugs can easily increase over time.

Anyone who thinks it's ok to lose subs no matter how small .. is not thinking about how it could effect the game in the long term. Especially to those who want the game to remain a sub based game and not switch to F2P. The less subs .. the more likely F2P begins to look like a great idea.

 

  kosac

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Posts: 171

5/23/14 4:53:27 PM#37

yes except this

- an entire PvP campaign was deleted

this is not bug.. i think game need delete more champagins.. maybe 2 or 3 more to make other full

  DEATHRAMENT

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/13/07
Posts: 596

5/23/14 8:58:06 PM#38
It's getting harder and harder to defend this game i can't even play tonight. Every time i join a group in craglorn i get dc after 2 min or so. If i can't group in craglorn whats the point.... I like this game but man... I can handle alot of bugs in game, its not something that bothers me alot, but when i can't play thats where i draw the line.
  CthulhuPuffs

Novice Member

Joined: 3/03/13
Posts: 379

Will consume your soul, yet stay crunchy in milk

5/23/14 9:10:31 PM#39
Originally posted by alexhpy98721

 

So yea... they should really hire testers....

 

Why should ZOS do that when they have quite a few paying to do it.

 

1- Release broken buggy content

2- Have paying subscribers test it for you

3- Profit

Bringer of Eternal Darkness and Despair, but also a Nutritious way to start your Morning.

Games Played: Too Many

  Kinado

Novice Member

Joined: 5/08/13
Posts: 186

5/23/14 9:19:03 PM#40

Is the Nightblade fixed?

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