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5/22/14 3:11:28 PM#41
Originally posted by asmkm22
It's only a good break down if you take zenimaxs word at face value, you also have the other side of the coin where those being sued claim they didn't violate any terms. We can't really take either side at face value I think.
Will be interesting to see how this goes, will facebook pay off zenimax, if not who will win and by what degree. How the courts interpret this thing will decide it I guess.
I just hope this doesn't stretch out too long and hurt VR in general.
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5/22/14 3:32:09 PM#42
Originally posted by Asm0deus
You're right. But my point this whole time is that people are just assuming Zenimax is being a troll, and attacking the little guy. You get people claiming random shit like "I'm unsubbing from ESO because of this" as if there is any connection. And when you try and bring actual information to the argument, they just shrug it off and make some hyperbolic statement about how "ESO failed and now Zeni needs to make money."
The misinformation is what I'm tired of seeing.
Odds are, this won't even go to court, and if it does, it won't stay there long. Facebook will settle with Zenimax for an undisclosed sum, and we'll never hear anything from it again, because the last thing Facebook wants is to risk having a jury reach some huge infringement fine and spend the next 2 to 5 years in appeals court. They couldn't realistically release any kind of product until the matter is settled, and I doubt they bought OR with the intention of doing nothing for 5 years.
So unless OR/Facebook has some very well-documented smoking gun type evidence that somehow invalidates the apparently very well-documented contracts, NDA's, and email communication that Zenimax has, we can expect to see this settled by the end of the year.
But yeah, in the mean time, Facebook will of course deny everything Zenimax claims, because that's what you do when you are sued. Nothing more.
5/22/14 5:00:34 PM#43
Originally posted by asmkm22
For someone who is tired of misinformation you're making a whole lot of assumptions about Zenimax and their evidence. You're accepting and promoting that the story is how Zeni is telling it. We don't know that. That's what the court will decide.
Do you really think this won't go to court after a lawsuit has just been filed? It would really surprise me. Pointing out again that this isn't a patent claim. Zenimax is filing suit and unless FB/Oculus files countersuit they have nothing to prove. It's up to Zenimax to prove that their claims are legitimate. It's up to Oculus to show them to be insubstantial, exaggerated, and/or false.
Has a trial date been set?
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5/22/14 6:03:18 PM#44
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Can I take this to mean you have also been critical of people publicly defending Oculus Rift, on the basis of their official denial alone? And if so, why do you think the general opinion of people in various comments and forums is that Zenimax is trolling? Should they not also be more open-minded to finding out the truth, rather than simply condemning one side?