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General Discussion  » Black Desert Ranger PvP imbalance - 4 rangers defeat a 65 guild siege

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  Loke666

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5/19/14 3:20:17 PM#21
Originally posted by Yamota
Asian MMOs have always looked and played weird, to me. Possible exception is ArcheAge.

The first Lineage wasn't really weird, beta tested the western version and it was actually pretty fun at launch time. AION had it's points as well besides being grindy.FF XI was not a bad game. Even TERA had it's good thing beside those 10 year old girl avatars.

There are a few Asian games that works here, to be honest are most western MMOs crap as well. For every good one there is at least 10 who are horrible F2P games with low budget, lousy graphics and pay2win.

  Myrdynn

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5/19/14 3:28:59 PM#22
Originally posted by Yamota
Asian MMOs have always looked and played weird, to me. Possible exception is ArcheAge.

+1, still waiting for an Asian game to not have rogue types run all slanted like a comic book character

  Thane

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5/19/14 3:39:55 PM#23
Originally posted by NobleNerd

Not too concerned. I recall in early WoW (especially) there were many builds that could 1 and 2 hit in pvp. Heck before leveling through battlegrounds I had a Rogue that would 2 hit pallys.

I am sure the developers will fix and try to balance. Blizzard is STILL trying to balance WoW and it's been 10 years!

 

If it ends of being that bad then just speak loudly by leaving the game.

actually they stoped trying some time ago

"healers are not supposed to die in 1:1 combat" is not realy a balance in pvp :P

 

they gave up PvP some time ago, especially "balancing" everything, because this just wont work. pvp in WoW is "supposed" to be balanced in grp fights.... not in 1:1.

works in a pve game :)

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  Amate

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5/20/14 2:46:48 PM#24
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Amate
Originally posted by fascism
Originally posted by Amate

What we know about this video is that the archer skill was fixed in the patch the day after they released that video.

 

And also that DMKano is trying so hard to spread shit about BDO because he feels it threatens ArcheAge.

wont AA be out years before BDO comes here, if it even does?

Yes, they are very different games, and I personally don't think the people who enjoy the simplicity/cozyness of AA will enjoy the more harsh and punishing world of BDO. But some people seem to think otherwise.

More harsh punishing world?

You do realize that BD will have PvE servers..... how harsh is that?

AA has no PvE servers - its  PvP game at heart, all servers are the same ruleset.

Black Desert Russia is announced to have F2P PvE and PvP servers and P2P PvE and PvP servers.

4 different server types.

That's just the russian publisher promises. We haven't seen it yet.

Meanwhile, remind me what happens when you die in ArcheAge? Oh yea, literally nothing, you just respawn at a statue 5meters away from you and can resume on getting killed with no consequences.

  WoeToTheVanquished

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5/20/14 2:52:20 PM#25

Don't you have to skillfully aim your attacks at the enemy to kill them? Aren't these players just good at aiming their skill shots? Notice that the pker's crosshair was off a bit, and this caused him to lose his target. Of course, it didn't seem like it was difficult to miss once the pker had his target, but it also seems like there's some skill involved with aiming.

http://i.imgur.com/4DUNpyS.jpg

and I didn't see many players fighting back. I'm sure if people fought back, those pkers would've had a more difficult time. the system honestly looks quite good to me. 

And technically, that group of players standing in front of the castle could've been nothing but archers to defend. I believe the pkers are just skilled players that know how to pvp. it reminds me of Lineage 1 -- when a skilled player could kill a group of enemies due to his armor/weapon/choice of spell and initiation.

When one player has the ability to completely wreck everything, it gives him the feeling of accomplishment. That's what games are missing nowadays. 

  Sevala

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5/20/14 3:06:06 PM#26

Having never played the game, I'm not commenting about the mechanics, or damage of the class vs other classes, only the video itself:

 

Meh...after watching this video it sounds more like "Oh noes...the zergball failed..."

Those 60 players looks kinda sad, and looked like the 5 man team was much more organized/better players. The 5 man team is using voice, using terrain, dodging attacks, nailed the weak links first, etc. (like when he is hiding in a bush and quite a few run past him.)

Personally, I'd give that a "win" in a game. Kinda sick of zerg balls and numbers being the only thing that matter in any PVP. More power to them.

 

Again, though, I do not know about the mechanics involved, however, I am always a fan of skill being more of a factor than numbers, so I like the part of that I see in the video.

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  cooleechang1

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5/20/14 3:13:40 PM#27
I guess no one knows that BDO have a stats reduction for PVP.  If you are up against zergs, stats are balance out for you to have a chance.
  WoeToTheVanquished

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5/20/14 3:36:45 PM#28

none of you have ever experienced real pvp? real open world combat with little to no safe areas? where when someone attacks you, you can either fight back or plead to them to "please stop" and they'll just kill you anyway. it's basically like being violated over a video game. let's also factor in the loss of detrimental amounts of experience upon death, or even dropping valuable items from your inventory upon death. where death actually matters in a game. not as hardcore as DEATH = DELETION, but still exponentially more than frustrating. where you should always be paranoid of another player, and know damn well that you can only rely upon yourself. 

 

I want games to come back to those roots.

  Dullahan

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Death to Themepark.

5/20/14 6:41:58 PM#29
Originally posted by DMKano

Spam one attack and win - woohoo!

Epic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRaHFDQPAYE

Source:

http://2p.com/6313367_1/Black-Desert-PvP-Imbalance-5-Rangers-Defeat-the-Whole-Guild-in-Fortress-Siege-by-Nichole.htm

 

Pretty funny to see one attack spammed over and over and over again - even the guys recording are cracking up on how broken it is.

The people they were attacking were obviously unprepared and horrible.  They had every opportunity to kill the rangers but didn't because they were so afk and disorganized.

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  Dullahan

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Death to Themepark.

5/20/14 6:55:42 PM#30
Originally posted by Sevala

Having never played the game, I'm not commenting about the mechanics, or damage of the class vs other classes, only the video itself:

 

Meh...after watching this video it sounds more like "Oh noes...the zergball failed..."

Those 60 players looks kinda sad, and looked like the 5 man team was much more organized/better players. The 5 man team is using voice, using terrain, dodging attacks, nailed the weak links first, etc. (like when he is hiding in a bush and quite a few run past him.)

Personally, I'd give that a "win" in a game. Kinda sick of zerg balls and numbers being the only thing that matter in any PVP. More power to them.

 

Again, though, I do not know about the mechanics involved, however, I am always a fan of skill being more of a factor than numbers, so I like the part of that I see in the video.

Exactly.  These players were just much better and more more prepared.  They were good at aiming and their opposition looked completely confused.  If they flanked out and charged the rangers they'd of been dead in 5 seconds, but instead they huddled up like idiots and stayed at range where they obviously were at a disadvantage.  Also to note, the game currently only has 4 classes, so a lot of those other players they were fighting were rangers as well, and had access to the same "OP ability" that the rangers were using.

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  Jockan

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5/20/14 7:10:35 PM#31

Playing Lineage 2 I have seen first hand many times how 1 group can hit a siege field and run through 100 players. It all depends on levels, gear and team skills. Not saying this was legit but its possible.

With that being said I cant wait for this game. :-)

  ikcin

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5/22/14 4:28:48 AM#32

Originally posted by DMKano

More harsh punishing world?

You do realize that BD will have PvE servers..... how harsh is that?

AA has no PvE servers - its  PvP game at heart, all servers are the same ruleset.

Black Desert Russia is announced to have F2P PvE and PvP servers and P2P PvE and PvP servers.

4 different server types.

No, they did not promise 4 different server types. You are lost in translation. They said it is possible to make PvP and less PvP servers without PK, but they are not sure. There will not be PvE servers, because this is open world game. The game will be F2P in Russia, but marketing model in every country is a choice of the publisher. Russian publisher promised the game will not be P2W.

  Dullahan

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5/22/14 7:02:52 AM#33

To me, nothing could be better news than to hear they feel BD is enjoyable enough to exist solely as a PVE game.  The biggest drawback of pvp sandbox games in the past (see Darkfall for a perfect example) is that without pvp, they are nothing.  That means the game doesn't truly support a variety of gameplay and progression options.  I personally wouldn't want to play a game without pvp, but its always good to hear that they are trying to appeal to more than just the hardcore pvpers.

Originally posted by ikcin
No, they did not promise 4 different server types. You are lost in translation. They said it is possible to make PvP and less PvP servers without PK, but they are not sure. There will not be PvE servers, because this is open world game. The game will be F2P in Russia, but marketing model in every country is a choice of the publisher. Russian publisher promised the game will not be P2W.

Side note, open world has no relation to pvp.  Open world just means the world is open and not instanced...

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  moosecatlol

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5/22/14 7:21:09 AM#34

520 potions. . . jesus!

 

Also yes, there are class imbalances in beta. WAPOW imagine that! It's as if this site exists to garner a community of people who have never played an MMO before.

Every MMO that has ever existed has been extremely exploitable in it's early levels of development.

 

 

Anyways, Kano, thanks for this, highly amusing. Also that sneaking at the beginning of the video seems to have made me so excited, that I'm now lightheaded.

  Fdzzaigl

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5/22/14 7:28:32 AM#35

Lol wow.

Then again, I remember how we defeated an entire siege of the central castle in WvWvW in Guild Wars 2 once with a couple of elementalists sporting full berserker gear and a mesmer doing the speed thingy + meteor rain.

But the single attack spam stuff in the later parts of the video definitely show that there is a problem.

Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!

  Dullahan

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5/22/14 7:31:56 AM#36
Have to say I'm more disappointed to hear about the lack of healer classes than I am to hear players can kill you spamming aimed abilities.  At least theres some skill involved in those abilities.  If there was a few healers classes however, ganking this many people would become next to impossible.

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  moosecatlol

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5/22/14 7:38:55 AM#37
Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

Lol wow.

Then again, I remember how we defeated an entire siege of the central castle in WvWvW in Guild Wars 2 once with a couple of elementalists sporting full berserker gear and a mesmer doing the speed thingy + meteor rain.

But the single attack spam stuff in the later parts of the video definitely show that there is a problem.

The player seems to have built around a high stun, high damage, low efficiency skill. Added on top of that his shots will bounce up to a certain number of times within a certain distance. It will be nerfed. However how is no one pointing out how he juked an entire guild of 65 players by hiding in some bushes. That by far and wide the highlight of that video.

  User Deleted
5/22/14 7:45:04 AM#38

He was critin every shot which means he is way higher level then the ones he is killing. 

edit: That's why I don't PvP in mmorpg it based on level and gear versus skill in first person shooters where I actually see me get better the more I play.

  Fdzzaigl

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5/22/14 7:46:36 AM#39
Originally posted by moosecatlol
 

The player seems to have built around a high stun, high damage, low efficiency skill. Added on top of that his shots will bounce up to a certain number of times within a certain distance. It will be nerfed. However how is no one pointing out how he juked an entire guild of 65 players by hiding in some bushes. That by far and wide the highlight of that video.

Definitely the coolest part of the video, but probably not the most problematic one. The TTK was too low, but taking a group of clustered people by surprise with massive aoe is something I've done in many games. Always epic moments.

It can usually be avoided by the targets if they take their precautions.

The fact that one spam attack is so powerful on a single target basis as well was a more important indicator that it was OP as hell imo.

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  kitarad

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5/22/14 7:48:06 AM#40

I am one of those idiots who tend to stand about with their mouth open when I get attacked. This is why PvP escapes me especially strategy and stuff. In the BGs in WoW I could defend a flag or something or keep a flag carrier alive but planning and attacking would have been beyond me. Good thing I was not born a Spartan  or I might have threatened their legend.

 

There are people who excel at this stuff and they are for whom these games are orgasmic I feel. People like me go where they are told to and stand about  acting as cannon fodder. I think I am the perfect foot soldier . I tried playing company of heroes but once the game got tougher I was completely useless but I still love watching these games. I enjoyed Starcraft II immensely may be because it was not so difficult and the strategy not so complicated. Also I can set it to easy when stumped 

 

These types of games where your opponent is clever and will flank and use tactics is fun when the people are matched with equal cunning. I avoid them not because I do not enjoy them but I acknowledge my meager planning and strategic skills. I prefer bashing poor defenseless cows and boars to oblivion since they will not be pouring over a map in the near future. Well unless of course something out of the Atrocity Archives decides to descend upon us. Then bovine intelligence might be a real threat.

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