Trending Games | Landmark | Warhammer 40K: Eternal Crusade | Star Citizen | Guild Wars 2

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,920,316 Users Online:0
Games:760  Posts:6,311,261
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

Elder Scrolls Online

Elder Scrolls Online 

Reviews & Impressions  » Full Review, 4.5 Final Score (In-Depth Review)

6 Pages 1 2 3 4 5 6 » Search
111 posts found
  BearKnight

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/24/13
Posts: 460

 
OP  5/12/14 4:07:31 PM#1

Disclaimer:

I played Skyrim prior, loved it, but did NOT expect nor demand ESO to be like Skyrim to begin with. I'm also an "OmniGamer", meaning I'll play anything so long as it is in depth and well fleshed out. Meaning, I'll play a good Themepark, Sandbox, Single-Player RPG, MMORPG, etc etc so long as it isn't just thrown together with little to no thought behind it. I do, however, have a preference for Sandbox gameplay.

 

 

Leveling:

In Elder Scrolls Online you can either go from continent to continent, in a linear fashion, doing quests as you find them in order to level up, or grind mobs 3-4 levels above you for experience (grinding mobs is slower than grinding quests). Many of these quests are surprisingly well written, and isn't much of a surprise given the writers they hired for ESO. The problem being that they seem to have spent most of their budget on writing story for the game rather than improving the overall experience. This means that leveling essentially just becomes:

Find Quest Marker -> Go and get new Quest -> Work on said new quest while finding other shiny quest markers -> Backtrack to turn in original quest -> confusingly try to figure out which quest is closest and/or should be done next -> Repeat

 

I spent two weeks of this mind-numbing questing in order to get up to level 34. At this point I got so frustrated with how leveling is done that I quit for a couple of days until I decided to roll with my friends in PvP/Cyrodil for pvp area shards/quests/etc.

 

Overall, questing in ESO for exp is no different, or even more frustrating, than other themepark iterations. This is because they took the hand-holding linear questing of the Themepark model and simply took out the "Go here for quests for your level" quest hubs, and decided to throw them randomly around the map in a linear fashion (ie: go from bottom to top of the map in a zigzag pattern) in order to find obscure quests to level off. This gets frustrating because it is still the same themepark model, but without any indication on where to go next. Instead you're blindly searching for quests for you to do all the while running into quests/areas far higher level than you should be causing you to backtrack to find quests you missed!

 

Sure the story is cool, but MMOs were not made for "Story", they were made for social interaction on a massive online scale. So after awhile you find yourself so bored out of your mind that you're frantically hitting the "#1" key on your keyboard for the first dialogue option to just get to the quest itself. Found myself doing this after a week of actually reading the quests (some are poorly written, others a complete 180 and are decent to read!).

 

Score: 3 ~ "Well written story and lore, but gets so boring you almost wish you could stomach just grinding mobs for hours on end instead."

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Crafting:

Simplistic to an extreme, but better than most themeparks out there. 

 

Essentially, you just run around looking for resource "nodes" in the open world to collect resources. Unlike GW2, these resource nodes are PUBLIC and not individually instanced to you (chests are also like this). This means that you have to fight over resource spawns with other players, and when you have 100+ running around the same area it can be hard in the more popular/populated areas to find resources. Ironically since I waited 2 weeks after launch to play ESO I was able to avoid this "demand" for resources and easily gathered what I needed for heavy armor.

 

->Most crafting only needs two or three ingredients. As a Heavy Armor + Two-Handed sword Sorcerer all I needed to find was Ore of some kind for my level (Iron/Steel/Etc) for both weapons and armor, then I'd buy any "Style" ingredients I was missing. All in all, only requiring ONE ingredient (Iron Ingots in this case) for ALL of my armor and weapons means the crafting was so basic my 6yr old niece could probably master it in an hour.

 

->Can't Craft jewelry, nuff said there, and i've not seen any indications it is coming any time soon despite developers saying "Planned".

 

->Enchanting is one of the most depressingly difficult things to level up and/or use. Ingredients found in the world are random, and NOT A SINGLE PERSON IS SELLING INGREDIENTS! I got into 4 trade guilds (more on this later) and use the Guild-Store Search Plugin (more on this later, too) and found that NOT A SINGLE SOUL was selling any ingredients for enchantment. This meant I was cursed to using low-powered, over-priced, enchantments from the enchanting merchant. Probably one of the worst thought-out aspects of ESO.

 

->Items have durability, but can be infinitely repaired, thus leaving a stale and useless player-market to suffer a slow useless death. "Durability" is just another mechanism for removing currency from circulation, and becomes frustrating after only 30minutes of play to see your armor losing effectiveness (ie: the less durability an item has the less it protects you) forcing you to carry tons of REALLY expensive repair kits around everywhere, or constant returning to merchants for expensive repairs.

 

->Market system in ESO tried to be "Socially Focused" by forcing you to join multiple guilds of 500 players max, each, in order to sell/buy wares from other players. This was to replace the Auction House other themeparks are plagued by, but this ends up being the most frustrating thing in the world in a Themepark based MMO. Especially when you realize how HORRIBLE and ill-designed the search engine is done for the "Guild Store". You end up being forced to download a player-made plugin just to use it, and now that has been limited severely by Zenimax due to adding in a search-timer in between page queries. In other words when you hit "Retrieve" to gather information from all Guild-Stores that you're in it takes about 20minutes to populate up to 3 or 4 guild stores worth of pages. Want to search for ONLY "Blue Rare" items? Change your query and re-retrieve, see you in 10-20 minutes depending on quantity!!!

 

Score: 2 ~ "So frustrating, and simplistic, you wish it were actually a cruel joke."

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Graphics:

After getting eye-strain from the sheer amount of blur and FXAA being used I was forced to take matters into my own hands. I googled INI modifications and SweetFX configurations. After about 3hrs of work I got ESO looking from a drowned out meerkat's stomach into a Skyrim wannabe playable product. Literally, I have no idea how Zenimax can justify how drowned out and blurred out ESO is when I can spend 3hrs to make it almost look like I was playing Skyrim. I can post screenshots if anyone is interested.

Score: 6 ~ "Better stock graphics than most Themeparks out right now, but with a little work on your part can look like some of the best singleplayer games out there."

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Audio:

I enjoyed the orchestrated musics at many points, but the limited sound tracks got boring after awhile. Still very nostalgic to hear remnicent Elder Scrolls soundtracks playing throughout the game though. Decent enough for today's releases.

 

Score: 7 ~ "Nothing really to say here for an ElderScrolls game, but is overall enjoyable to listen to."

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Art-Style (aka: Character design & Equipment rendering):

 

Like many have pointed out before the armor/equipment of ESO are VERY one dimensional in terms of depth and overall quality. It feels as if you're playing a game that release back in 2002 with the flat textured modeling overlayed with random pieces of armor that are disconnected from your actual character. Can't tell you how many times I noticed my shoulderpads were "floating" disconnected from my one-layered textured suit of full plate. Felt like I was a paper doll with glossy paint thrown on.

However, the realism direction they went with character models with regards to the Elder Scrolls series was a needed touch. 

 

Score: 4 ~ "It seems as if almost no budget was given to their graphics department when designing equipment. Quite a lot of armors look exactly the same, or are drowned out by muted colors and different shades of gray, brown, or glossy black."

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Character Progression (skills, builds, abilities, etc):

Many people have claimed that the "build" system for characters in ESO is very robust, but I'd highly disagree. If you had played any games from 1999 to 2005 you would laugh at this statement in the person's face while balancing on a basketball. 

 

That snide statement aside, sure there is SOME limited design potential for builds, but you could probably count the number of viable unique builds on one or two hands per class (4 classes btw). However, MANY builds are just silly or have no purpose other than trying to prove you could do something "out of the ordinary". There's no point if it can't actually be of any viable use.

 

As for the shards collection system in order to force players to "explore" the world it was an interesting idea. However, there's a plugin that will put markers on your map showing you where every shard is in the game so it just ends up being a mindless run-around collection game for more skills points (3 collected shards == +1 skill point). This makes rolling alts VERY tedious and annoying!

 

Score: 5

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Combat:

 

Overall, ESO tried to mix GW2's actiony combat (that gets boring after a couple of hours) with the standard tab-targeting MMO scheme. It's neat at first, but like GW2 it gets boring after a couple of hours due to being EXTREMELY limited in the # of abilities and moves you can perform. Overall this chokes inspiration and overall drive to continue playing after you come up with a 1,2,3,4,5 rotation that gets you through to the next quest. Not really much point to experiment when there are so little combinations that work well per class for decent progression.

 

Not much else to say here, it really is that shallow of a system.

 

Score: 3 ~ "Basic at its lowest level, and serves to be nothing more than a way to progress forward. Very VERY boring and limited."

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

PvP/RvR:

If you could call it "RvR" that is, but overall it's nothing more than a rehash of an "Arena" style version of DAOC's RvR system. Granted the Cyrodil map is fairly large, the overall scope is very small. You end up just fighting over limited patches of Cyrodil every couple of hours due to the nature of zerg patterns. This zerg goes to attack Castle Green while this other zerg goes to counter said previous zerg, rinse and repeat. Very limited to zero real PvP/RvR encounters that aren't zerg fests with thousands of AOE abilities being spammed in roughly the same area. 

Small group pvp is almost non-existent as they're generally afraid of running into large zergs and getting squashed. Most, if not all, AOE abilities are capped on # of players they can hit similar to GW2 so zerges of players always win over smaller groups. This was an avid complaint in GW2 for their PvP, but seems to be plagueing ESO as well.

 

No real purpose to PvP/RvR in ESO besides some pseudo bonuses that you never really notice and/or aren't important enough to keep.

 

Ganking lowbies questing in Cyrodil trying to get shards and/or quests is also a big thing in ESO. Tons of veteran ranked assassins roaming around lovingly picking off newbs just exploring/leveling. Granted it is an active PvP/RvR area, but it gets kind of annoying to see 20 people complain about being ganked in open chat after the first hour.

 

Score: 6 ~ "It funcitons as a decent PvP experience, but most certainly has no aspects of RvR that make it playable past a couple of hours. There's no real drive behind it, and it just seems thrown together at the last minute."

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

The Round-Up:

 

Pros:

->Good Audio.

->An Art-Style that fits the Intellectual Property and/or Franchise.

->Modern graphics after being tweaked a bit by the player.

->Cyrodiil as a major point of contention for PvP/RvR.

->Well written stories in most parts of the game.

->Decent amount of work put into exploration.

->Decently large world to explore, but 2/3rds locked behind "Veteran Status", or unless you roll an alt of a different faction.

 

Cons:

->Disconnect between solo gameplay and group gameplay.

->Not very much to do for groups of players.

->Shallow and limited crafting.

->A higher occurrence of bugs and exploits than most release titles.

->Shallow combat system.

->Limited and Shallow character progression.

->Most equipment looks the same and/or muted in color. Not much differentiation in crowds of players.

->An entire playable race, Imperials, locked behind a pay-wall. Nothing really interesting and/or new about them worth the price either.

->Extremely limited and lackluster crafting system.

->Failed player economy driven by "social interaction" that is nothing more than forcing players to join SEVERAL guilds at once in order to access limited pools of inventory wares for sale. Addons required to navigate them.

->Too much focus on "You're the Hero!" story over world and player interaction.

 

Final Score: 4.5 / 10

  Kanester

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/08/10
Posts: 359

5/12/14 5:04:45 PM#2
Pretty spot on to be fair.

  EnterTheWombat

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/23/08
Posts: 107

5/12/14 5:14:45 PM#3

Oh boy another one of these. yay

And I'll edit a little bit and add that I am enjoying myself in the game. Of course I think they could have done better but it's not a 4.5 out of 10.  Thanks for the non biased BS review though. 

  JudgeUK

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/15/11
Posts: 735

5/12/14 5:24:08 PM#4

For the TL:DR brigade:

OP didn't like it much.

  Golelorn

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/23/03
Posts: 1104

5/12/14 5:27:28 PM#5
4.5 out of 10 is a complete fail. You'd barely be able to play the game. Its at least a 7. Which is average.
  Jacxolope

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/15/13
Posts: 762

5/12/14 5:31:20 PM#6
Originally posted by Golelorn
4.5 out of 10 is a complete fail. You'd barely be able to play the game. Its at least a 7. Which is average.

No 7 is the "new" average gaming journalists use to make an average to below average game seem beeter. 7/10 is above average- Its in the 70 th percintile or something.

 

5 would actually be the average (out of 10) and 4.5 (a bit below average) is how I would rate ESO as well.

IF we were using 7 as an average I would say ESO is a 6.5.

 

But its all in ow you are viewing the numbers.

EDIT- Have you seen MMOrpg ever rate a game much below 7? Or any 'official' game review rate a AAA game under 7- It hardly ever happens because I guess we have all above average games coming out for the past 10 years lol.

  syntax.error

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/27/04
Posts: 2982

C64 Cracked Warez Intros FTW

5/12/14 5:36:47 PM#7
to the op, i wonder what you call a 10 then.. lol
  summitus

Novice Member

Joined: 3/31/05
Posts: 1475

5/12/14 5:44:13 PM#8

Had just lol at this TL,DR ... BS .. OP are you trying to get a job in game journalism ?  ...... as someone else stated , don't give up your day job ... sigh

And don't get me wrong the game isn't great by any means , but its not that fucking bad ...

  DamonVile

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 4909

5/12/14 5:47:15 PM#9
If it was baseball it would be in the hall of fame.
  ElirionLoth

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/20/12
Posts: 180

5/12/14 5:50:21 PM#10
Originally posted by summitus

Had just lol at this TL,DR ... BS .. OP are you trying to get a job in game journalism ?  ...... as someone else stated , don't give up your day job ... sigh

And don't get me wrong the game isn't great by any means , but its not that fucking bad ...

According to his post history he's in the gaming industry so......................I'll let you decide rather than state the obvious.

 

He also commented earlier that he didn't care for the game during the open betas so I'm kind of wondering why he bought the game (if he actually did).

  laserit

Elite Member

Joined: 3/24/10
Posts: 1766

Confusius say: Man who go to bed with itchy bum wake up with stinky finger

5/12/14 5:51:32 PM#11

Yawn.......

 

If the game was really that bad, people wouldn't be wasting their time making reviews about it.

"If you make an ass out of yourself, there will always be someone to ride you." - Bruce Lee

  reeereee

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/22/13
Posts: 769

5/12/14 5:55:25 PM#12

Scores on cambat/PvP/crafting were poorly thought out.  The combat is very different than gw2 because there are no cooldowns, so there is really no need to even try for 12345 build, you're doing it wrong if you are and that probably means you never took the time to tackle hard PvE content or put any real effort into PvP.  Also, there is plenty of room for small group PvP in this game, just because you don't have any friends to roll with doesn't mean others don't.

 

And crafting a 2?  Really?  Compaired to what?  WoW/GW2?SWTOR/FFXIV AAR?  I couldn't see giving any of those games more than a 3/10 if ESO is a 2/10 some of them maybe even less.  Yeah no global AH was a stupid move on Zen's part but that shouldn't be reflected on the crafting, should have made an economics section and downgraded them there if that was your primary issue. 

 

 

As for the questing solo that made up so much of the game... yeah it sucked can't really argue there.

  User Deleted
5/12/14 5:59:11 PM#13
Originally posted by Jacxolope
Originally posted by Golelorn
4.5 out of 10 is a complete fail. You'd barely be able to play the game. Its at least a 7. Which is average.

No 7 is the "new" average gaming journalists use to make an average to below average game seem beeter. 7/10 is above average- Its in the 70 th percintile or something.

 

5 would actually be the average (out of 10) and 4.5 (a bit below average) is how I would rate ESO as well.

IF we were using 7 as an average I would say ESO is a 6.5.

 

But its all in ow you are viewing the numbers.

EDIT- Have you seen MMOrpg ever rate a game much below 7? Or any 'official' game review rate a AAA game under 7- It hardly ever happens because I guess we have all above average games coming out for the past 10 years lol.

You will periodically see MMORPG.com rate a game poorly, BUT ONLY when it is a game none of us have ever heard of and never seen any advertisements for.  It's a sham; it's MMORPG.com trying to convince us that they have credibility.

I think MMORPG.com rates games on a scale of 8-to-10.  Seriously... and since they gave ESO a 7.9 (and were being generous there), that means ESO has some major problems.

I really wanted this game to succeed; I love the Elder Scrolls universe... unfortunately, I agree with most of the reviewer's comments.  I have come to agree with those people who feel Matt Firor took advantage of the Elder Scrolls IP to produce a new DAoC-style game, and failed in the process because it's neither Elder Scrolls nor DAoC.  I hope the mess gets fixed, but I really don't think it will until ZOS acknowledges that the game as designed is severely flawed.  Unfortunately, arrogance doesn't usually result in admission of fault, and their marketing and management teams are clearly arrogant to have presumed all players would be lemmings rushing over the cliff.

They need to do the same thing as FFXIV-ARR or they'll never get back their customer base, and without a decent customer base the game cannot survive as P2P.

  whiteraven

Novice Member

Joined: 3/16/04
Posts: 4

5/12/14 5:59:16 PM#14

Seems about right

  Lawlmonster

Advanced Member

Joined: 10/07/09
Posts: 956

Take my advice, I'm not using it anyway.

5/12/14 6:02:11 PM#15
Yep, I would have scored this game somewhere around 5 (average) as well, not that it really matters. I'd also like to parrot the poster before me who brought up scoring, and how the 7 as a new average has allowed some funny review inflation, or at the very least created a system in which you may call something one thing, while it is actually another. What's the purpose of using a ten point scale if the only numerical values you assign to a game are between 7 and 10?

"This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran)

  pappacube

Novice Member

Joined: 5/08/10
Posts: 91

5/12/14 6:06:29 PM#16
can't resist the urge to say I disagree with 4.5.  I am playing the heck out of this game and I feel its at least a 7.5.  Of course I am lame and don't care to go to great lengths to tell you why I say 7.5 but either you are auditioning for a job or you love yourself to bits.
  WizGamer

Novice Member

Joined: 5/27/03
Posts: 407

5/12/14 6:07:55 PM#17

This is honestly disgusting and one of the reasons why MMORPG.com has become a place for cynical whiners. On no objective rating scale would this game get 4.5. It is an AAA mmorpg with quite a few flaws, like basically every other game released (except re-release FFXIV). Your opinion is worthless when your basis for judging is so off-keel. Wow, absolutely ridiculous. 

Honestly, screw this site. I'm tired of reading about people shitting on various games constantly. Pure negativity is not what I want to hear, and I've played every MMORPG there is. Sometimes I wonder if anyone on this site even understands quality. People say LoL has the worst community, but I think it's right here at MMORPG.com. 

  k61977

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/25/12
Posts: 137

5/12/14 6:10:23 PM#18

The main problem I have with this post is he doesn't say he is not using the same scoring system this site nor any of the other gaming sites do today.  They use the school grading system. 10 =A, 9 = B, etc. with anything below a 6 pretty much a failure.  This has been stating many times by many different mods, to include bill murphy on this site.  I agree this is stupid if you are using a 10 point scale to do it this way but it is the way games are rated. 

With that said I don't agree with the score he has issued but it is his opinion and he is welcome to it.  The game is an average game with some things better and some worse.  Grouping is the main issue with the game at this point but they have stated they have a patch in the works on the testing server as we speak to help with it.  You can't really blame them from not making the whole game a grouping game when it is based off of single player games. 

Hopefully things will get better in the future.  I enjoy the questing and having to look for them unlike the OP but that is my opinion.

  Lawlmonster

Advanced Member

Joined: 10/07/09
Posts: 956

Take my advice, I'm not using it anyway.

5/12/14 6:11:41 PM#19
Originally posted by WizGamer

This is honestly disgusting and one of the reasons why MMORPG.com has become a place for cynical whiners. On no objective rating scale would this game get 4.5. It is an AAA mmorpg with quite a few flaws, like basically every other game released (except re-release FFXIV). Your opinion is worthless when your basis for judging is so off-keel. Wow, absolutely ridiculous. 

Honestly, screw this site. I'm tired of reading about people shitting on various games constantly. Pure negativity is not what I want to hear, and I've played every MMORPG there is. Sometimes I wonder if anyone on this site even understands quality. People say LoL has the worst community, but I think it's right here at MMORPG.com. 

I have to disagree with about everything you've posted here, and I think you need to grow a thicker skin if an opinion you dislike is enough for you to ragequit the community. Hopefully it won't come to that, though, because there's plenty of room for everyone here on the forums, even if we're at ends with one another.

"This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran)

  Jacxolope

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/15/13
Posts: 762

5/12/14 6:14:24 PM#20
Originally posted by k61977

The main problem I have with this post is he doesn't say he is not using the same scoring system this site nor any of the other gaming sites do today.  They use the school grading system. 10 =A, 9 = B, etc. with anything below a 6 pretty much a failure.  This has been stating many times by many different mods, to include bill murphy on this site.  I agree this is stupid if you are using a 10 point scale to do it this way but it is the way games are rated. 

With that said I don't agree with the score he has issued but it is his opinion and he is welcome to it.  The game is an average game with some things better and some worse.  Grouping is the main issue with the game at this point but they have stated they have a patch in the works on the testing server as we speak to help with it.  You can't really blame them from not making the whole game a grouping game when it is based off of single player games. 

Hopefully things will get better in the future.  I enjoy the questing and having to look for them unlike the OP but that is my opinion.

My god- We can be civil and discuss things with people we dont agree with?

Someone please see if its snowing in Hell.

 

That is interesting about their using the "school grading system" and not logical. I understand you are probably totally correct- It essentially puts everything on a 4-5 point scale but still used the "10 point scale" and is deceptive. I had never heard that however, and am glad you pointed that out. Thanks.

6 Pages 1 2 3 4 5 6 » Search