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  Skymourne

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Joined: 6/12/11
Posts: 358

5/11/14 10:04:20 PM#21
Wow what a necro thread.  Rift's doing pretty well actually.  It's a solid title.
  syriinx

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5/12/14 12:46:08 AM#22
Originally posted by Plageron
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by davc123
Originally posted by crasset15
I hope so. There's too many wow clones already.

btw Rift is better then wow

I have played rift and wow and im not a big fan of either game, but rift is just a cheaper version of wow in every sense. I wish rift was actually about rifts and not raids like it was initially supposed to be.

I play rift a lot and I just cant see the similarities with WOW.

 

Sorry but in wow you cant talk to your enemies...alliance and horde are forever locked form each other.

You can talk to each other in RIFT and even join and play together.

 

Wow has a new expansion that lets you now automatically be bale to level any character you want to maximum level and get free gear with it....no play required.  In fact they are going to offer this as something you can buy from wow's cash shop....that is the ultimate PAY to Win example....might as well just go play Progress quest with stuff like that.  I understand Sony is thinking about having this same sort of thing for Everquest as well.

Cant do that with rift.

 

In addition wow requires a subscription...you can try it for free up to level 20 but have everything nerfed on you....and then you have to pay to play after that.  Sooo....that's pay to win...sorry to say.

 

But Rift you can play for free up to any levels and get free items every day.  Their cash shop doesn't have all items from the game listed but you can favorite items you find form vendors to have them available later.  And be able to buy things for planarite and things the cash shop only sells for real cash.

 

So anywise aside form both being fantasy games...with wow being a total rip off copy of warhammer fantasy from games work shop(they even mimic the same accents on the orks how sad is that?)...I am just not seeing a clone of wow.

Maybe if Rift added some kung fu pandas or an ork who yells at you in tons of cuscnes about how great he is....and then proceed to make the game a grind fest of killing wolves to get fangs and also add invisible walls all over...cant forget those, then it might be close to a wow clone.

 

Also rift hasn't been around 2 years yet...so seeing the oldest posts form players talking like they played a long while back when they only actually played a month before they posted is kind of humorous.  

If you play Rift and dont see the similarities with WoW it means one of two things.  Youve never played WoW or youve never played an MMORPG besides Rift, WoW and SWTOR and think the enormous number of things they have in common are genre standards.  Its less exaggerated now than it was at launch, but they are still extremely similar.

"Talking to the enemy"...here is an example of how Rift and WoW were closer at launch.   Yes, in Rift the two sides are kind of friends now and you can be guilded and group with each other.   thus removing the entire point of having two warring factions.

In WoW's new expansion you CAN NOT get to max level.  You can right now because the level cap hasnt been raised yet, but the intention isnt for a max level toon...you can get to the start of the WoD but not to the top.  And its highly unlikely that Rift wont be adding something similar.  You know what you can do in Rift that you cant in WoW?  Buy high end gear.  

And are you truly criticizing WoW by saying its a grind when Rift is worse with grind?  Well, not PvP.  You can just buy your way to the top gear there.

But since you want to talk about how the games are different, how about going with how WoW has actual personality.  People actually like at least some of the races.  When there are 50 people in an area in WoW they dont load in as green condoms.  And WoW didnt have to go f2p to retain a modest population.

Oh and Rift released in march 2011.  its been out over 3 years.

 

 

  MMOGamer71

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Joined: 11/12/07
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5/12/14 12:56:14 AM#23
Originally posted by crasset15
I hope so. There's too many wow clones already.

WoW is a clone of D&D which is a clone of the J.R.R Tolkien books, nothing original about Orcs at war with Humans.

BTW Rift is probably doing fine.

 

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  kikosforever

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Joined: 5/02/14
Posts: 453

5/12/14 1:11:43 AM#24
Imo Rift is a good solid game, with a relative small population, but its not dying. I myself sometimes go back and play it a bit or see what changed etc. I m happy to see that Trion still support this game and add content with a good pace. Btw it has an excellent f2p system :)
  syriinx

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Joined: 9/24/13
Posts: 923

5/12/14 1:16:49 AM#25
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by crasset15
I hope so. There's too many wow clones already.

WoW is a clone of D&D which is a clone of the J.R.R Tolkien books, nothing original about Orcs at war with Humans.

BTW Rift is probably doing fine.

 

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seriously?  J.R.R.Tolkien?

Stop being deliberately obtuse.

 

Gandalf didnt put abilities in three talent trees, and frodo didnt grind tiered raids for tokens for gear.  Sam didnt perform gather/click/no fail combine/guaranteed skill up crafting.  Gimli didnt do the same dungeon at level 15 and at max level.  The war between the forces of middle earth and mordor didnt take place in instanced mini games.  Legolas didnt use a 5 combo point system for stealth builds.  And Aragorn didnt see the world through that familiar looking overused UI.

 

Neither did anyone in EQ for that matter.

  Utinni

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Joined: 7/13/13
Posts: 350

5/12/14 1:18:24 AM#26
Rift like many other MMO's suffers from high turnover because people simply don't want to level and gear up again. Most of us have been doing it for years and are just tired of it. Not that I prefer there to be no leveling, but until someone changes the way it happens games like this will suffer. We all leveled multiple characters in WoW and EQ, then the next games to come out expects us to do it all over, then find a new guild to raid in. It's fatigue. Be ready for instant level 60 characters for Rift soon just like the rest of them. A shame because its probably in the top 3 best MMO's out. There are just too many games out that let you instantly/shortly after starting get in to the action. 
  syriinx

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Joined: 9/24/13
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5/12/14 1:18:43 AM#27
Originally posted by kikosforever
Imo Rift is a good solid game, with a relative small population, but its not dying. I myself sometimes go back and play it a bit or see what changed etc. I m happy to see that Trion still support this game and add content with a good pace. Btw it has an excellent f2p system :)

this is unbiased truth, and without bashing WoW or making absurd statements

  Gadareth

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Joined: 12/06/05
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5/12/14 1:26:31 AM#28

Lets be honest it started dying as soon as it went F2P. F2P is basically the grim reaper of mmorpgs when it loams its time to read the last rites.

 

  Dullahan

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5/12/14 1:34:35 AM#29
Originally posted by syriinx
Originally posted by MMOGamer71
Originally posted by crasset15
I hope so. There's too many wow clones already.

WoW is a clone of D&D which is a clone of the J.R.R Tolkien books, nothing original about Orcs at war with Humans.

BTW Rift is probably doing fine.

 

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Spelling

seriously?  J.R.R.Tolkien?

Stop being deliberately obtuse.

 

Gandalf didnt put abilities in three talent trees, and frodo didnt grind tiered raids for tokens for gear.  Sam didnt perform gather/click/no fail combine/guaranteed skill up crafting.  Gimli didnt do the same dungeon at level 15 and at max level.  The war between the forces of middle earth and mordor didnt take place in instanced mini games.  Legolas didnt use a 5 combo point system for stealth builds.  And Aragorn didnt see the world through that familiar looking overused UI.

 

Neither did anyone in EQ for that matter.

Funny post, would read again.

On topic, I'm really surprised it lived this long.  It launched at a great time when it could have succeeded.  Everyone I knew was hyped about it until we actually got into the beta.  Then we just laughed as we realized the era of the WoW clone was in full effect.  Sure there was some cool new features, most even liked the way they did skill trees better than previous games, but little about RIft as a whole lent itself to innovation.  Another casual game that holds your hand rather than a virtual world that captures your imagination.

Can't say whether its completely dead, but with a large influx of big MMOs coming out in 2014, I think by the end of the year the nail will be in the coffin.

Played EQ, UO, DAoC, AO, WoW, EQII, Vanguard, Ryzom, Darkfall, Warhammer, Rift, MO, Tera, DFUW, Age of Wushu, NW2, ESO and many others I don't remember or care to admit.
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  syriinx

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5/12/14 1:39:57 AM#30
Originally posted by Gadareth

Lets be honest it started dying as soon as it went F2P. F2P is basically the grim reaper of mmorpgs when it loams its time to read the last rites.

 

no, this isnt being honest.

It started 'dying' from day 1.  most of the player loss happened first year.  It was stabilizing around SL launch and F2P cemented that stability.

 

the word that most aptly describes Rift's population is stable.

  rojoArcueid

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5/12/14 1:43:44 AM#31
Originally posted by davc123
Originally posted by crasset15
I hope so. There's too many wow clones already.

btw Rift is better then wow

answering a troll post with another troll post. Not sure if take the OP serious now.

 

On a side note,  Rift is failing because Trion keeps adding stuff without fixing existing problems. That is a highway to fail.

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  Arakazi

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5/12/14 4:07:47 AM#32
I kinda liked it, the raiding and dungeons are excellent and progression can be pretty fast, it's one of the few games I would actually recommend. But like ESO it lacks any real depth and character which is why the game is so easy to overlook and easy to get bored of, it just doesn't stand out... oh and voice overs in events are truly dreadful and annoying.

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  emperorwings

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5/12/14 5:10:45 AM#33
Sold my account but yeah maybe should have kept it but won't be going back again. It seemed quiet when I was on it about 6 months ago.

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  zaberfangx

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5/12/14 11:43:51 AM#34
Rift doing fine, there tons people around level 60+, if your leveling not going see tons of people, as due to most player base are at 60, doing zone event, pvp dungeons, raiding. and crafting. around peak time, sever get little high, and laggy with amount people are on.
  Nephaerius

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5/12/14 12:31:07 PM#35
My biggest complaint about Rift is that the game runs sooooooo poorly.  There's no reason I should get better FPS in ESO on maxed settings than a game that's 1-2 yrs old.

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  zaberfangx

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5/12/14 4:49:10 PM#36
Originally posted by Nephaerius
My biggest complaint about Rift is that the game runs sooooooo poorly.  There's no reason I should get better FPS in ESO on maxed settings than a game that's 1-2 yrs old.

Do Agree with you, on rift runs so poorly, but can't add Eso it's build around today pc, and it took them tons of a crap ton of money to build it, the rift engine is little older then the game build around pc back then when there was getting in to dual core, and 32 bit windows when the main, But people still hoping they'll get that fix befor 3.0 but I know is not a magic wand everything is better, but for them to start a new engine, will cost them tons and tons of money more they make, with out going pay to win.

  Seelinnikoi

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5/23/14 2:15:12 PM#37
Originally posted by zaberfangx
Originally posted by Nephaerius
My biggest complaint about Rift is that the game runs sooooooo poorly.  There's no reason I should get better FPS in ESO on maxed settings than a game that's 1-2 yrs old.

Do Agree with you, on rift runs so poorly, but can't add Eso it's build around today pc, and it took them tons of a crap ton of money to build it, the rift engine is little older then the game build around pc back then when there was getting in to dual core, and 32 bit windows when the main, But people still hoping they'll get that fix befor 3.0 but I know is not a magic wand everything is better, but for them to start a new engine, will cost them tons and tons of money more they make, with out going pay to win.

Huh?

Rift was out in 2011!

WoW was out in 2004!

 

There is no reason Rift should perform poorly other than Trions sole fault.

  psiic

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5/23/14 2:29:21 PM#38

Not real sure what is going on with Trion lately. 

Kinda feels like it is a totally different company, the servers for both Rift and Defiance have been running like crap.

The support staff are the same EXACT support staff perfect world uses. 

The updates do not show the same quality or care they use to.

The new skins for new mounts and what not are feeling lazy and cheap.

 

It's like Hartsman came in and said ok new business model,  we no longer care about making our own games or supporting our customers. Now we are going to be just like SOE and lease/publish a bunch of crap games.

 

Sad how he has infected what was once the best company in the industry. 

 

Oh and another thing that Unicorn mount is insulting, they just took the horse model and stuck a spike in its forehead.

 

They could at least build a new model considering what they charge for mounts on the item mall, cheap bastards.

  Raventree

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5/23/14 2:38:46 PM#39
These forums are saturated with haters and people who spend all day complaining and attacking any and every game out there.  If you don't join the bashing bandwagon you are called a fanboy and an attempt is made to dismiss your opinion.  That being said, it is not surprising to see people rubbing their hands together at the thought of any given MMO dying so that they can proclaim that it was bound to happen because the game was not designed for them and them alone.  Back to the point, I play Rift every day and the population seems very healthy, although I don't feel that it has ever received the popularity it deserves, mostly due to the underwhelming first impression it gives.  It truly seems to me to be the best of the wow clones though and it offers a highly polished version of every feature you could ask for.  The F2P model is the best I have ever seen and everything available seems like a bonus as opposed to SWToR, which feels as though the devs are bitter that they had to go F2P and are going to continue to beat you over the head and hold features hostage until you subscribe.  With Rift, I buy stuff here and there, maybe sub for a few months, play for free for a few months, whatever.  There is just no pressure to do anything but enjoy yourself.

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  Robokapp

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5/23/14 4:58:15 PM#40

it is a very good F2P model indeed.

 

and bosses have mechanics!

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