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General Discussion  » So when does this game get fun?

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  umcorian

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OP  5/11/14 4:23:26 PM#1

Seems like all MMOs these days have a specific level where the game actually starts being anything other than a boring, tedious grind that hasn't evolved the genre since Blizzard came out with EZ-Mode Everquest back in 2004. 

How long does this game make you wait before you start enjoying it, and is there a way to by-pass the levels that suck so I can actually have fun without investing time being bored in a game I've paid $60 for?

Thanks. 

  Deerhunter71

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5/11/14 4:32:17 PM#2
Level 20 which is what I read on various posts.  I personally think that is way too long because a lot of people will not grind long enough to see it.  The larger issue Carbine needs to be worried about though is their optimization.  Hopefully they get that sorted out for those who are looking forward to the game.
  DMKano

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5/11/14 4:35:07 PM#3

If you are not having fun within 20 minutes of logging in - either the game is not for you or the game designers have failed.

 

  Arakazi

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5/11/14 4:38:04 PM#4
From what I've read the best part about the game are the dungeons, the boss fights are suppose to be a particular highlight due to their difficulty and fun mechanics.

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  bcbully

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5/11/14 4:40:14 PM#5
Originally posted by DMKano

If you are not having fun within 20 minutes of logging in - either the game is not for you or the game designers have failed.

 

I don't necessarily agree with that, but it's not a secret that WS formula is the same from the beginning to the end. 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  DeniZg

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5/11/14 5:04:27 PM#6
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by DMKano

If you are not having fun within 20 minutes of logging in - either the game is not for you or the game designers have failed.

 

I don't necessarily agree with that, but it's not a secret that WS formula is the same from the beginning to the end. 

I agree with BcBully.

Some games I've played have been fun from the very start (GW2, Neverwinter), only to turn boring later down the road. Some games I have grinded through the starting zones, but hooked me later, after 10-20 levels (WoW, SWTOR).

Things are not so black and white. Sometimes you might get pleasantly surprised.

  flizzer

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5/11/14 5:09:04 PM#7
If I play a game and Im not having fun within 20 levels, I would consider that a problem.  Why bother with a game that is simply not fun for you?   The games I play the most are LOTRO and GW2 and both games hooked me almost immediately.  I don't believe there is some level where games start getting fun.  It sounds like the game is just not for you then. 
  Laughing-man

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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

5/11/14 5:14:54 PM#8

I had fun relatively right away...

My friend and I were dueling and redueling and trying out different skills at level 5, which I consider to be kinda low for me to actually get into the pvping of a game.

I'm so glad this game HAS dueling, wtf is up with games that don't have dueling in them anymore?

  DanitaKusor

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5/11/14 5:22:49 PM#9
Originally posted by Laughing-man

I'm so glad this game HAS dueling, wtf is up with games that don't have dueling in them anymore?

Probably because a lot of people aren't interested in PvP and are sick of random idiots coming up to them and spamming duel requests at them while they are trying to do something else.

The Enlightened take things Lightly

  Nyghthowler

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5/11/14 5:37:27 PM#10
Originally posted by DanitaKusor
Originally posted by Laughing-man

I'm so glad this game HAS dueling, wtf is up with games that don't have dueling in them anymore?

Probably because a lot of people aren't interested in PvP and are sick of random idiots coming up to them and spamming duel requests at them while they are trying to do something else.

^^^QFT^^^

 

I don't mind PvP, but if I reject the first invite to duel don't spam me with repeated requests.

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  korent1991

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5/11/14 5:38:02 PM#11
Originally posted by DanitaKusor
Originally posted by Laughing-man

I'm so glad this game HAS dueling, wtf is up with games that don't have dueling in them anymore?

Probably because a lot of people aren't interested in PvP and are sick of random idiots coming up to them and spamming duel requests at them while they are trying to do something else.

that's why devs give you the option to automatically decline duel requests (or not even see them). :)

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  Kinado

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5/11/14 5:40:08 PM#12
Originally posted by DanitaKusor
Originally posted by Laughing-man

I'm so glad this game HAS dueling, wtf is up with games that don't have dueling in them anymore?

Probably because a lot of people aren't interested in PvP and are sick of random idiots coming up to them and spamming duel requests at them while they are trying to do something else.

So instead of having an ignore duel requests option, its just best to scrap duels off completely from a game? Ok...

For me Wildstar starts being a LOT of fun at level 6 once I get access to the battlegrounds. PVP is just amazing in this game, best I have ever played by far and I pvp'ed like crazy in other MMO's such as WoW, DCUO, Rift, Age of Wushu, ESO, SWTOR, you name it.

If PVP isn't your cup of tea then you have the pretty generic questing, same crap as any other MMO I've played. Go here, kill that, deliver this, talk to this guy. Same old same old. What Wildstar offers that's different, its the way you make these quests through gameplay. Challenges, combat itself, path missions which I really like, platforming etc. That makes it fun.

Then you reach level 20 and enter contested zones, if you are in a pvp server then quests just got a whole lot more fun to do.

What I haven't seen yet, because I only played up to level 20ish and mostly just queue up for battlegrounds, is the dynamic events à la GW2 . Carbine says Wildstar has them just like GW2 and by far that was the best thing about GW2, stuff happening around you all the time making the world feel alive.

Then dungeons man...dungeons. Crafting. All that good stuff. This game is a lot of bang for the buck.

  acidblood

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5/11/14 5:44:32 PM#13
Originally posted by DanitaKusor
Originally posted by Laughing-man

I'm so glad this game HAS dueling, wtf is up with games that don't have dueling in them anymore?

Probably because a lot of people aren't interested in PvP and are sick of random idiots coming up to them and spamming duel requests at them while they are trying to do something else.

That's why they invented the 'Auto Ignore Duel Requests' (or similarly named) option.

As far as when WS gets fun.. level 20 is also what I've heard, but I'm yet to actually get there because despite the progress from alpha to now (WS has come a long way) there is still a distinct lack of challenge in the lower levels and the questing is still painfully un-engaging.

Side-note: I haven't had any problems running WS, ever, even on a 2 year old laptop which only got about 2fps in EQNL.

  Xiaoki

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5/11/14 5:46:16 PM#14


Originally posted by DMKano
If you are not having fun within 20 minutes of logging in - either the game is not for you or the game designers have failed.

 



Thats not instant gratification enough!


You should be having fun in an MMO 20 minutes BEFORE you ever log into the game.


I mean, seriously, are people judging MMOs based on the first 20 minutes now? Pathetic.

  Gorwe

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5/11/14 5:52:31 PM#15
Obviously never if you have to ask that...
  DMKano

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5/11/14 5:54:50 PM#16
Originally posted by Xiaoki

 


Originally posted by DMKano
If you are not having fun within 20 minutes of logging in - either the game is not for you or the game designers have failed.

 

 



Thats not instant gratification enough!

 


You should be having fun in an MMO 20 minutes BEFORE you ever log into the game.


I mean, seriously, are people judging MMOs based on the first 20 minutes now? Pathetic.

Seriously its game design 101 - 20 min is what you have to gain a customer in a MMO.

If fun doesn't happen within 20min for an average gamer they move on.

 

  VicDynamo

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5/11/14 5:57:43 PM#17
Originally posted by DMKano

If you are not having fun within 20 minutes of logging in - either the game is not for you or the game designers have failed.

 

This is completely wrong. The tutorial is build for non MMO players  so if you're an established MMO player, the tutorial isn't for you - however the game itself overall may be. While the game gets the novices caught up, it probably won't challenge you enough to feel fun until around level 15 or so.

  Alber_gamer

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5/11/14 6:08:09 PM#18

Everybody that types down a message in these boards seem to be of the single minded ideal that everyone likes the same things, at the same thresholds of entertainment, and the same breaking points as everyone else.

 

Get this: You're wrong. 

 

Find out what's fun for yourself by yourself. Or stop bothering everyone else with your personal tragedies about how a videogame is failing to please you. It doesn't contribute in any way with anything.

My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.

  Daessar

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5/11/14 6:08:19 PM#19
Originally posted by DMKano

Seriously its game design 101 - 20 min is what you have to gain a customer in a MMO.

If fun doesn't happen within 20min for an average gamer they move on.

 

 

but last year design 101 was 30 min, and the year before that it was 40 min....so MMO designers have at most 2 years left before time is up.

 

:(

  Distopia

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5/11/14 6:09:20 PM#20
Originally posted by Prhyme
Originally posted by DMKano

If you are not having fun within 20 minutes of logging in - either the game is not for you or the game designers have failed.

 

This is completely wrong. The tutorial is build for non MMO players  so if you're an established MMO player, the tutorial isn't for you - however the game itself overall may be. While the game gets the novices caught up, it probably won't challenge you enough to feel fun until around level 15 or so.

Fun and challenge are not mutually exclusive in my experience. Fun in this case simply means something enjoyable to do in the game, if I have to wait 20 levels for that ( not that a dungeon challenging me means a game is fun...) I doubt I'm going to make it that far.

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