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  User Deleted
5/08/14 6:41:42 PM#21
meh, every time i check this game I always end up asking myself why I don't play WoW instead
  joe1121

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5/08/14 6:41:46 PM#22
I agree with Agrias34, this game is badly optimized, I was getting below 50fps in some zone's on a single GTX690 & X2. I most say I have the best specs money can buy for gaming. Really disappointed with the optimization. Yes I was getting above 60fps in some zone's but mostly very low fps on average.
  Bruhza

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5/08/14 6:42:20 PM#23
Originally posted by Chuckanar
Good game. Not sure why people are complaining but everyone is allowed to express their opinion. By the way my Toaster runs it fine. Only had a few issues with the game myself during the last few betas. Hope you give it a try for more than the first few lvls. The first 6 lvls are total baby gloves to show and teach you the controls. around lvl 20 it gets much better. they just have alot of easy stuff in the beginning for all you kids.

The spaceship intro is terrible in almost every way. Honestly they should just remove it, place a cinematic, make a short tutorial for first-time players (a SKIP-ABLE one) and turn into a hub for something. (Not a city hub, just...something interesting)

 

Once you get into the actual first zone(s) the game gets quite a bit better. (Except the forest one for Exiles...Didn't really enjoy that one too much myself.)

 

Edit: I am one of those that will be playing it at launch and enjoying it a ton. I hate PvE in MMO's for the most part, but this PvE is simply the best I have ever played.

  stormannnn

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5/08/14 6:43:46 PM#24
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by stormannnn
Originally posted by SBFord

During an earlier Twitch live stream event today, Carbine Studios developers have announced that WildStar is the "best damned MMO" and have issued a challenge to all: Come try it out during the open beta that runs from today through May 18th and prove them wrong. You can check out the entire stream video when it goes live later today on the WildStar Twitch Channel.

During the livestream, the team made some pretty strong statements about MMO’s and how WildStar is going reinvigorate the category:

  • “We have the best damn MMO that’s you’re going to play this year. Period. End.” – Mike Donatelli
  • “If you are going to sell an MMO for the box price with a $15 subscription you got to give them the value. Month after month we will release more content for every play style.” – Mike Donatelli
  • “We have an entire expansion worth of content that we plan to launch over the next 12 months,” Mike Donatelli
  • “We have a whole zone that’s coming in the very first patch post-launch,” Mike Donatelli
  • “Best Housing of any MMO, ever,” Matt Mocarski
  • “We are the first ever MMO to do mount customizations (we have hoverboards in the game if you didn’t know),” Matt Mocarski
  • “The 40 man Raid is bat s$@# insane,” Mike Donatelli
  • “We definitely have the best Raids of any MMO,” Stephan Frost

 

For those of you who can't tell, DO NOT actually try this game simply because they developers (using reverse psychology) told you to.. 

It is yet another marketing ploy to increase the traffic to their game, don't be fooled by companies. Make your own choices. Disregard this challenge and you will empower yourself simply because you're not doing -exactly- what they want you to do. Time is worth money, which is what they want you to spend on their game.. Time.. and Money.. 

Look to the long term, and see that at some point the money that the TIME you spend on the game is worth will be more than the money they will ask you for to continue to play the game. I know it's a hard pill to swallow, and hey I'm not saying don't play any games ever NOR AM I SAYING DON'T PAY FOR THIS GAME. 

I'm simply saying, don't fall into the trap that this propaganda represents. Don't make this 'challenge' the reason you play this game, as much as you want to prove the developers wrong. Rest easy knowing they're less smart than you, which in turn means they are less powerful (knowledge is power)

Be safe guys.

It's a trap! They might take up a portion of your hard drive for a time frame set by you in order to try out their game! Oh the humanity.

[mod edit]

In case you're not well versed in the business aspects of MMORPGs, there are things that are worth money that aren't literally CASH. Such as Advertisement. Game traffic. Word of mouth. All of these things would cost money if the company itself had to do it, though they are getting it for free by simply challenging the public. What do we get out the interaction? Well, nothing actually.. Of course there is the possibility that you enjoy the game and it's worth its entertainment value. However there is no way to prove that every player who gets marketed to (which is where the company makes money) will also get their money's worth in entertainment. 

This is why I will continue to advise people not to waste their time, and to realize the power that we all hold in the form of our consumer status. 

  Volgore

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5/08/14 6:45:52 PM#25

I don't think the game is "the best" at anything it does, but it's still a pretty complete package with lots of love in its details. Like the game or not, but it has soul.

Anyway the EU servers were all low, except for one that went to medium later in the evening. I guess by now everyone who was/is interested in the game already had enough chance to get an impression on the previous weekends and there wasn't a huge run on the EU servers.

"It's the best MMO, jump in and prove us wrong"... what is wrong about the game (UI, performance, classes/bugs, amps, starting areas and more) has been posted in and out on the forums and to a certain part been ignored by the "devs who are listening".

  Jimmydean

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5/08/14 6:47:52 PM#26
Originally posted by Volgore

I don't think the game is "the best" at anything it does, but it's still a pretty complete package with lots of love in its details. Like the game or not, but it has soul.

Anyway the EU servers were all low, except for one that went to medium later in the evening. I guess by now everyone who was/is interested in the game already had enough chance to get an impression on the previous weekends and there wasn't a huge run on the EU servers.

"It's the best MMO, jump in and prove us wrong"... what is wrong about the game (UI, performance, classes/bugs, amps, starting areas and more) has been posted in and out on the forums and to a certain part been ignored by the "devs who are listening".

Except that if you actually played / payed attention to the game, you would see that the UI was already completely rehauled, the performance is continually being optimized, and the housing truly is the best out of any mmorpg to date.

  DocBrody

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5/08/14 6:48:36 PM#27

wait a second, "best damn" is copyright Star Citizen/CIG!

 

 

  FlyByKnight

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Joined: 12/31/12
Posts: 508

5/08/14 6:51:42 PM#28
  • “We have the best damn MMO that’s you’re going to play this year. Period. End.” – Mike Donatelli I played. I disagree.  The game is childish and obnoxious (not because of the graphics either)
  • “If you are going to sell an MMO for the box price with a $15 subscription you got to give them the value. Month after month we will release more content for every play style.” – Mike Donatelli I can't speak on this, but if you find this game not annoying, it does have a ton of stuff to throw at you.
  • “We have an entire expansion worth of content that we plan to launch over the next 12 months,” Mike Donatelli Could be true, but CHALLENGE STARTED ruins it for me.
  • “We have a whole zone that’s coming in the very first patch post-launch,” Mike Donatelli Again, probably true... but it's still Wildstar which is not a good thing to me.
  • “Best Housing of any MMO, ever,” Matt Mocarski I'm sure somebody will disagree with this bold statement. I'm not equipped to argue.
  • “We are the first ever MMO to do mount customizations (we have hoverboards in the game if you didn’t know),” Matt Mocarski  Whoopty fucking do. The game isn't really visually appealing enough for me to care.
  • “The 40 man Raid is bat s$@# insane,” Mike Donatelli Yes. It is because the combat system is the only thing really engaging about the game.
  • “We definitely have the best Raids of any MMO,” Stephan Frost Say it two times because that's all Wildstar really has IMO... the combat.
 
The game runs better than it did before, but like I said... it's still WIldstar. I'm sure others will enjoy it.  I honestly don't understand why they shelved Blade & Soul for Wildstar.
 
 
 
  Bruhza

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5/08/14 6:52:25 PM#29
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by Volgore

I don't think the game is "the best" at anything it does, but it's still a pretty complete package with lots of love in its details. Like the game or not, but it has soul.

Anyway the EU servers were all low, except for one that went to medium later in the evening. I guess by now everyone who was/is interested in the game already had enough chance to get an impression on the previous weekends and there wasn't a huge run on the EU servers.

"It's the best MMO, jump in and prove us wrong"... what is wrong about the game (UI, performance, classes/bugs, amps, starting areas and more) has been posted in and out on the forums and to a certain part been ignored by the "devs who are listening".

Except that if you actually played / payed attention to the game, you would see that the UI was already completely rehauled, the performance is continually being optimized, and the housing truly is the best out of any mmorpg to date.

I love the new UI. I'll admit the lag with it at first was really bad, but they fixed that.

  Solar_Prophet

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5/08/14 6:54:00 PM#30
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by Volgore

I don't think the game is "the best" at anything it does, but it's still a pretty complete package with lots of love in its details. Like the game or not, but it has soul.

Anyway the EU servers were all low, except for one that went to medium later in the evening. I guess by now everyone who was/is interested in the game already had enough chance to get an impression on the previous weekends and there wasn't a huge run on the EU servers.

"It's the best MMO, jump in and prove us wrong"... what is wrong about the game (UI, performance, classes/bugs, amps, starting areas and more) has been posted in and out on the forums and to a certain part been ignored by the "devs who are listening".

Except that if you actually played / payed attention to the game, you would see that the UI was already completely rehauled, the performance is continually being optimized, and the housing truly is the best out of any mmorpg to date.

Some of us would like to play the game, but can't despite the fact Carbine says our systems should be able to without a problem. Funny that, huh?

 

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  Samhael

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5/08/14 6:54:01 PM#31
Best game I've played this year? So that's going to put it up against Rift (which Trion has been killing off steadily this year) and ESO. Well, crap. That's not going to be a hard win. All it needs to do is be average.
  Path4

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5/08/14 6:56:19 PM#32

Beta....

 

They find problems and they fix them, there's a word for that oh yeah beta.  Also I can't remember any mmo release that was perfect.  Stop being snobs and support the game if you like it or go do something else if you don't. 

 

 

  Bruhza

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5/08/14 6:57:05 PM#33
Originally posted by FlyByKnight
  • “We have the best damn MMO that’s you’re going to play this year. Period. End.” – Mike Donatelli I played. I disagree.  The game is childish and obnoxious (not because of the graphics either)
  • “If you are going to sell an MMO for the box price with a $15 subscription you got to give them the value. Month after month we will release more content for every play style.” – Mike Donatelli I can't speak on this, but if you find this game not annoying, it does have a ton of stuff to throw at you.
  • “We have an entire expansion worth of content that we plan to launch over the next 12 months,” Mike Donatelli Could be true, but CHALLENGE STARTED ruins it for me.
  • “We have a whole zone that’s coming in the very first patch post-launch,” Mike Donatelli Again, probably true... but it's still Wildstar which is not a good thing to me.
  • “Best Housing of any MMO, ever,” Matt Mocarski I'm sure somebody will disagree with this bold statement. I'm not equipped to argue.
  • “We are the first ever MMO to do mount customizations (we have hoverboards in the game if you didn’t know),” Matt Mocarski Whoopty fucking do.
  • “The 40 man Raid is bat s$@# insane,” Mike Donatelli Yes. It is because the combat system is the only thing really engaging about the game.
  • “We definitely have the best Raids of any MMO,” Stephan Frost Say it two times because that's all Wildstar really had for me
 
The game runs better than it did before, but like I said... it's still WIldstar. I'm sure others will enjoy it.  I honestly don't understand why they shelved Blade & Soul for Wildstar.
 

It was a marketing decision (if even that) to stop Blade & Soul and bring this instead. Most "Asian/Korean-Style MMOS" do not really do too great over her in NA. 

 

To be honest though, they probably stopped Blade and Soul for other reasons than Wildstar's release.

  moosecatlol

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5/08/14 7:02:07 PM#34
"First MMO to do mount customization" Yeah, that's not even remotely true.
  Volgore

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5/08/14 7:04:53 PM#35
Originally posted by Jimmydean
Originally posted by Volgore

I don't think the game is "the best" at anything it does, but it's still a pretty complete package with lots of love in its details. Like the game or not, but it has soul.

Anyway the EU servers were all low, except for one that went to medium later in the evening. I guess by now everyone who was/is interested in the game already had enough chance to get an impression on the previous weekends and there wasn't a huge run on the EU servers.

"It's the best MMO, jump in and prove us wrong"... what is wrong about the game (UI, performance, classes/bugs, amps, starting areas and more) has been posted in and out on the forums and to a certain part been ignored by the "devs who are listening".

Except that if you actually played / payed attention to the game, you would see that the UI was already completely rehauled, the performance is continually being optimized, and the housing truly is the best out of any mmorpg to date.

UI 2.0 is about as bad as the previous version was, albeit in its own way. Fonts, functions, certain class related stuff (i.e. Esper PSI indicators/bars), clutter, quest tracker, C for phone calls, V for loot, F to interact, Chat/-functions, popup overkill and other things that have been discussed and complained about for UI2.0 as much as for v1.0

Of course performance is continually being optimized, it happens with every game and even WoW's engine is getting tweaked until today. No one questions that Carbine is in the process of optimizing, the problem is that the game runs horrible for alot of people as is now. The related thread on the forum is like 30 pages long with people stating that nothing was optimized for them in several weekends. So whatever Carbine is doing is not enough for alot of people who sit on 20 fps on mid to high end PCs.

I can't speak about the housing, but i read a tip in the loading screen today stating somethign like : "you can get all this and that for your house ...with money" what exactly seems to mirror Carbine's attitude in regards to the game's CREDD influenced economy.

  Torvaldr

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5/08/14 7:07:25 PM#36

I played in beta 2. It was nowhere near the best game I've played or will play this year. It was fun and the open world feeling was a bonus, but definitely not worth a mandatory subscription.

They claim to have a bunch of content ready to launch. To me this screams zero day DLC. They are holding a bunch of content back from release so they can trickle it out over the next year and showboat how they're masters of content delivery. When the premade content is out a year from now and the update stream dries up then things go south quickly. Just ask Trion how that works.

I'll keep playing Rift, Neverwinter, EQ2, and GW2 and my other games. Nothing set to release this year so far has me looking to ditch my current games. Maybe Landmark, but maybe not. That has the greatest chance, but it's a small one. I'll wait to see what that pie tastes like before I jump ship.

Curse you AquaScum!

  Seelinnikoi

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5/08/14 7:20:16 PM#37

This MMO is so good that after a couple of hours playing, I had to uninstall in order not to be addicted!

*coughs*

  Gruug

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5/08/14 7:20:42 PM#38
Some people are going to like WS and some are not. I fall in the NOT camp myself. I wish the game success but I will not be in any way part of it. Played beta....many many hours....and it just did not live up to my expectations. Again, that does not mean that it will be way over the top for someone else...just not for me.

Let's party like it is 1863!

  orionblack

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5/08/14 7:24:25 PM#39

I did not enjoy WoW ...so after trying closed beta a while back I decided this game was not for me. 

So I guess "best damn MMO" doesn't apply to me then....must not be their target audience....

  Bladestrom

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5/08/14 7:27:46 PM#40
Lol it's a safe bet ths if you don't enjoy wow you wont enjoy ws.

rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW (1000 hrs on main mage)> oblivion > LOTR (480 Hunter) > Rift (230 hours mage) > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(900 elementalist), Wildstar

Now playing GW2, AOW 3

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