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  Kinado

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5/06/14 8:13:37 PM#21
Originally posted by Chrisbox
Originally posted by Necropsie
Originally posted by Chrisbox
So clearly, video optimization for this game is effecting a lot of people such as myself.  A few have told me they have a driver update planned or something to fix all of it and give us back our frames, anyone have confirmation on this? Honestly if it runs smoothly as it should I'll probably end up pre-ordering.  

Help me to understand this.. Why do you plan to pre-purchase a game like this?

"Wildstar will ultimately end up with every other themepark in the f2p graveyard.  It's your typical WoW-clone with slight variations on combat systems.  Unfortunately the variations this time around aren't even good, telegraphs out the *** aren't exactly innovative. "

This is your post. From.. yesterday. http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6316288

So really, help me understand. You think game is garbage but yet, interested in optimizations and thinking pre-ordering, right?

 

I began to think a lot of my rage derived from the fact that I was on 20-40 fps the entire time. Like someone said before me, awful performance can ruins ones enjoyment regardless of gameplay.  I am certainly one of those people.   I was also not in a very good state of mind at the time I wrote that. Please stick to the topic at hand. 

Though to be completely truthful, it's still possible that this game could go under just as any themepark that gets released in todays market.  

You mean you have multiple personality disorder? Or in other words you are... a COMPLETE WACKO?! lol just kidding. Or am I?

But yes, Wildstar is as themeparkish as it gets but its a fun game to play with a lot of depth, that's a good start. Comparing it to WoW is...innacurate. I played WoW for 6 years so I would notice it.

Video optimization however is the main problem of Wildstar at this point, I really like the game but all the choppy FPS made me stop playing it during the beta weekend. It's just not enjoyable to play a game with inconsistent FPS. Not to mention anti-aliasing is awful since they removed the ability to increase the render scale.

I m buying it anyway though, great game.

  Chrisbox

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OP  5/06/14 9:45:25 PM#22
Originally posted by Kinado
Originally posted by Chrisbox
Originally posted by Necropsie
Originally posted by Chrisbox
So clearly, video optimization for this game is effecting a lot of people such as myself.  A few have told me they have a driver update planned or something to fix all of it and give us back our frames, anyone have confirmation on this? Honestly if it runs smoothly as it should I'll probably end up pre-ordering.  

Help me to understand this.. Why do you plan to pre-purchase a game like this?

"Wildstar will ultimately end up with every other themepark in the f2p graveyard.  It's your typical WoW-clone with slight variations on combat systems.  Unfortunately the variations this time around aren't even good, telegraphs out the *** aren't exactly innovative. "

This is your post. From.. yesterday. http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6316288

So really, help me understand. You think game is garbage but yet, interested in optimizations and thinking pre-ordering, right?

 

I began to think a lot of my rage derived from the fact that I was on 20-40 fps the entire time. Like someone said before me, awful performance can ruins ones enjoyment regardless of gameplay.  I am certainly one of those people.   I was also not in a very good state of mind at the time I wrote that. Please stick to the topic at hand. 

Though to be completely truthful, it's still possible that this game could go under just as any themepark that gets released in todays market.  

You mean you have multiple personality disorder? Or in other words you are... a COMPLETE WACKO?! lol just kidding. Or am I?

But yes, Wildstar is as themeparkish as it gets but its a fun game to play with a lot of depth, that's a good start. Comparing it to WoW is...innacurate. I played WoW for 6 years so I would notice it.

Video optimization however is the main problem of Wildstar at this point, I really like the game but all the choppy FPS made me stop playing it during the beta weekend. It's just not enjoyable to play a game with inconsistent FPS. Not to mention anti-aliasing is awful since they removed the ability to increase the render scale.

I m buying it anyway though, great game.

Lol yea anti-aliasing is kind of sad too.  I didn't try forcing it though from nvidia control panel like 8x MSAA would it even allow that? I would imagine not.

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  Chrisbox

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OP  5/06/14 9:47:05 PM#23
Originally posted by Maelzrael
Ran at 60fps give or take all weekend. i7 and 660 ti, 32gigs... So either my machine is badass, or the game is fine. Not sure which. 

Video optimization doesn't necessarily effect every rig out there.  There will always be some who are untouched.  Though 60 could be a slight bit below for the rig you described depending on whether or not you're using vsync...

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  Panzerbase

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5/06/14 9:52:33 PM#24
670GTX with an older i7 on the desktop, runs great. laptop, again older i7 and middle of the road mobile card, works just fine...
  Mardukk

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5/06/14 10:08:10 PM#25
I thought the whole point of them making the gfx ultra stylized was to improve performance for the big raids. If I run around solo at 30 fps imagine a large raid. There isnt much else that I could consider a bigger gamebreaker than fps issues. I keep seeing people say dont expect a big increase in fps even if they do "fix" things...that is disheartening.
  Chrisbox

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OP  5/07/14 12:09:42 AM#26
Originally posted by Mardukk
I thought the whole point of them making the gfx ultra stylized was to improve performance for the big raids. If I run around solo at 30 fps imagine a large raid. There isnt much else that I could consider a bigger gamebreaker than fps issues. I keep seeing people say dont expect a big increase in fps even if they do "fix" things...that is disheartening.

Yea it does worry me too, the raids are my main draw to this game and if its that bad alone questing then idk.  

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  Nevulus

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5/07/14 12:49:13 AM#27
Originally posted by FlawSGI
Originally posted by Nevulus

i just dont understand whats going on with people talking about video problems.

 

I have 2 cards, 580 gtx and a 570 gtx, both considerably old, on 2 different computers. 2600k 8gb RAM, and other is an i5. I ran the game at 50 fps with everything max except shadows in crowded areas, and considerably higher fps when out questing. The lowest I saw it go was 45 fps during a large amount of permanent particles around a heavily populated quest hub.

 

There was one person this recent closed beta constantly spamming chat about how poorly the game ran, when asked what gfx card he has he said a Nvidia 260. 

 

We aren't new to PC gaming, we should all be aware as newer games come out, older gfx cards WILL be taxed more in performance. I just don't get it, unless I am missing something completely. I understand everyones rig is different, but from what I saw this weekend there was a LOT of people blowing things out of proportion in order to stand high on their soap box.

I am not sure why you assume people are blowing things out of proportion. I have been able to run every MMORPG to date just fine with the exception of WS on my Nvidia GTS 450 which is a decent mid range video card. While I respect that you aren't experiencing the same issues that others are, how about offering up helpful information instead of proclaiming we are here to stand on a soapbox and over embellishing our experiences. I get as high as 50 fps and then experience drops to as low as 15. On top of all of that there is a stutter that causes my head and eyes to ache after playing for roughly an hour. What I don't understand as why folks like you continue with this head in the sand defense of something when people like me want to enjoy the game and are looking for answers to a fix. While the OP may have been busted as trolling, I legitimately wanted some information and instead I get this drivel.  

[mod edit]

 

I stated that I fully understand everyone's rig is different. but during beta this weekend I had one guy spam the entire chat for 3 hours over & over about how bad his fps was, and when finally asked his card was a 260. Yup that's blowing things out of proportion.

 

Here's some advice: Betas always needs optimization. Chances are there is debugging software running in the background. Will they fix it? Who knows. None of us know, but what I do know is that YOU can always upgrade your gfx card. [mod edit]

 

 

  Datastar

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5/07/14 12:54:42 AM#28
Originally posted by Nevulus

i just dont understand whats going on with people talking about video problems.

 

I have 2 cards, 580 gtx and a 570 gtx, both considerably old, on 2 different computers. 2600k 8gb RAM, and other is an i5. I ran the game at 50 fps with everything max except shadows in crowded areas, and considerably higher fps when out questing. The lowest I saw it go was 45 fps during a large amount of permanent particles around a heavily populated quest hub.

 

There was one person this recent closed beta constantly spamming chat about how poorly the game ran, when asked what gfx card he has he said a Nvidia 260. 

 

We aren't new to PC gaming, we should all be aware as newer games come out, older gfx cards WILL be taxed more in performance. I just don't get it, unless I am missing something completely. I understand everyones rig is different, but from what I saw this weekend there was a LOT of people blowing things out of proportion in order to stand high on their soap box.

I have equivalent if not slightly improved hardware than you and i got crappy fps when i tested.... it seems its just certain hardware thats having issues.

AMD fx4300 3.8ghz GTX 760 2g 8G Ram

  Kenichi

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Joined: 6/25/06
Posts: 108

5/07/14 2:02:46 AM#29

Upgraded from an i3 to an i7, GTX 560 Ti to 760. I went from having crappy fps to barely being able to run the game. It is the only game that I have any problems with and this is with the settings low. There must be some driver issue or something very wrong.

At this point, unless a miracle patch happens in open beta, I'll have to get a refund because I just can't play a game like this.

  Kabaal

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5/07/14 2:21:02 AM#30

There's a huge bugfix patch coming by tomorrow. I'd hold off judging performance until after that and it's inevitable hotfix. Most of the current issues with the game were introduced with UI 2.0, things were starting to look much better until they introduced it.

Obviously it won't be a miracle patch but it should go a long way to sorting out a lot of the current issues.

  BlackWatch

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5/07/14 2:29:02 AM#31
Haven't run into any of the issues being discussed here.  I hope these things are addressed, of course.  But I personally haven't witnessed any issues first hand.

  oubers

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5/07/14 2:33:33 AM#32
Originally posted by FlyByKnight

I got twin 660 TI, get a stable 4.5 from my processor, all drivers up to date all other AAA games run fine and Wildstar was running like shit for me from day one.  The FPS was all over the effing place regardless of the settings. The foliage was stretching and distorting all over the screen etc.  Between that and how the game got increasingly more obnoxious as I played I just gave up on the title. I tried everything possible before that.  It's not my problem anymore.

 

[mod edit]

Distortion is a driver problem in about 80% (from personal exp that is) of the time.

I had this in GW2, updated my driver and all was solved last time.......had the same thing back in wow, EQ2, age of conan and rift.

my 2 coppers

 

  Iceman8235

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5/07/14 2:48:22 AM#33
This may or may not be related, but I planned on making a chua spellslinger at release until I made one in beta and ran around a bit.  When you strafe on a chua the camera kind of stutters along with the chua's footsteps and it really bothers me.  So much so that I'm going to make a cassian instead.  Has anyone else noticed this?
  Chrisbox

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OP  5/07/14 12:08:25 PM#34
Originally posted by Kabaal

There's a huge bugfix patch coming by tomorrow. I'd hold off judging performance until after that and it's inevitable hotfix. Most of the current issues with the game were introduced with UI 2.0, things were starting to look much better until they introduced it.

Obviously it won't be a miracle patch but it should go a long way to sorting out a lot of the current issues.

I hope.  If everything is fixed i'll probably make a new thread describing how much better it is, but if not then idk.  I certainly can't raid with the fps I was getting last beta weekend.  Plis carbine.  

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  fardreamer

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5/07/14 12:20:57 PM#35

iv been following this issue for quite some time, here are my observations:

 

People complaining on fps in wildstar either have a AMD card or below nvidia 570gtx.

People saying there is nothing wrong with the fps seem to have 580gtx and higher/newer nvidia cards.

 

If anyone reading this has been using a nvidia card above 570gtx and experiencing fps issues while "only" running wildstar on their machines, please reply to this.

  Gadz

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5/07/14 12:27:12 PM#36
im getting about 120 fps with everything on the highest setting.. so yeah, that would be awesome if they optimized it more
  Salute

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5/07/14 12:35:30 PM#37
Imo its more about CPU and less about GPU. I got a friend having an i7 and gtx550 and he is playing almost always at 50+ fps.
  skoupidi

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5/07/14 12:39:25 PM#38
Originally posted by fardreamer

iv been following this issue for quite some time, here are my observations:

 

People complaining on fps in wildstar either have a AMD card or below nvidia 570gtx.

People saying there is nothing wrong with the fps seem to have 580gtx and higher/newer nvidia cards.

 

If anyone reading this has been using a nvidia card above 570gtx and experiencing fps issues while "only" running wildstar on their machines, please reply to this.

Playing from an internet cafe. Some pcs here have high end amd cards and other have nvidia 570gtx. With amd i was getting 80+ fps with everything maxed. I will try playing on nvidia 570gtx once open beta hits and post the results here.

  AzurePrower

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5/07/14 12:53:29 PM#39
Originally posted by Nevulus

i just dont understand whats going on with people talking about video problems.

 

I have 2 cards, 580 gtx and a 570 gtx, both considerably old, on 2 different computers. 2600k 8gb RAM, and other is an i5. I ran the game at 50 fps with everything max except shadows in crowded areas, and considerably higher fps when out questing. The lowest I saw it go was 45 fps during a large amount of permanent particles around a heavily populated quest hub.

 

There was one person this recent closed beta constantly spamming chat about how poorly the game ran, when asked what gfx card he has he said a Nvidia 260. 

 

We aren't new to PC gaming, we should all be aware as newer games come out, older gfx cards WILL be taxed more in performance. I just don't get it, unless I am missing something completely. I understand everyones rig is different, but from what I saw this weekend there was a LOT of people blowing things out of proportion in order to stand high on their soap box.

Hai.

 

I have a GTX 670 overclocked. So it's basically a GTX 680. 12 gb RAM. i7 cpu. Quite a beefy desktop computer.

 

Game runs poorly in quite a few places for me.

 

It is a known fact the game isn't optimized yet. We're all waiting for when it will be.

  fardreamer

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5/07/14 1:00:17 PM#40
Originally posted by skoupidi
Originally posted by fardreamer

iv been following this issue for quite some time, here are my observations:

Playing from an internet cafe. Some pcs here have high end amd cards and other have nvidia 570gtx. With amd i was getting 80+ fps with everything maxed. I will try playing on nvidia 570gtx once open beta hits and post the results here.

hmm

Originally posted by kikosforever
Imo its more about CPU and less about GPU. I got a friend having an i7 and gtx550 and he is playing almost always at 50+ fps.

maybe its not AMD maybe its CPU related. im on a i7 2600 and its running fine. 

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