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  Amjoco

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5/05/14 9:25:03 PM#21
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Horusra
Originally posted by DMKano

At this point the vast majority of those interested have taken a swim got out and left the beach.

(such is the nature of sub MMOs - retention rates suck, 60%+ never go beyond the first month)

 

Is it fun making up numbers?

Is it fun not accepting reality?

 

I think he accepted the reality you made up the numbers.

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  Alders

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I cannot fiddle but I can make a great state of a small city.

5/05/14 9:30:12 PM#22
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Horusra
Originally posted by DMKano

At this point the vast majority of those interested have taken a swim got out and left the beach.

(such is the nature of sub MMOs - retention rates suck, 60%+ never go beyond the first month)

 

Is it fun making up numbers?

Is it fun not accepting reality?

 

I think he accepted the reality you made up the numbers.

 

Fairly certain the retention rate of new subscription MMO's is around 50% if not worse, so he's not that far off.

  nycplayboy78

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If you couldn't tell from my avatar picture...I love cats!!!

5/05/14 9:34:00 PM#23
Originally posted by hammarus
The water may be fine, but the "night is full of terrors".

Oh I saw what you did there...Sneaky...Sneaky....GoT :)

  MMOredfalcon

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Joined: 9/18/13
Posts: 135

5/05/14 9:40:15 PM#24
Originally posted by RedCurry
Wrong! You can swim in ESO, just not any of that silly underwater kind.

 Yes...because swimming underwater would ruin the immersion. Who in their right mind would attempt to swim underwater?

  jdlamson75

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Joined: 12/27/08
Posts: 925

There's some lovely filth down here.

5/05/14 9:44:21 PM#25

Sorry to derail slightly, but I could have sworn your avatar and sig said "Bald Spot Man".  Figured all those dudes were your toons, and they all have the baldness going on.  Then I went to your profile and saw it a little bigger, and felt kinda dumb.

 

That's all, carry on.

  rawfox

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Joined: 12/03/09
Posts: 618

5/05/14 9:48:16 PM#26

Its okay OP, youre quit right.

 

Nevertheless, in my games water i can dive for trasures, have a breathing apparatus, can enjoy a whole ocean sized water :)

I can even have a submarine, a fisherboat, a harpooner, underwaterfarms, ... well, what those waters gonna give me.

You see, i have no reason to shipper in a different sea, do you ?

 

  krulux

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Joined: 9/18/04
Posts: 230

 
OP  5/05/14 10:46:35 PM#27

Wow - feel the love.   :)

I do have a question for nearly everyone that responded.  Are you secretly playing ESO and liking it... or do you continue to post here in the ESO forum as some form of misguided duty to those who might otherwise try the game?  How white-knight of you, if the latter is the case.

Or is the real game these days to troll forums and just whine about everything and everyone.. regardless of the game at topic?  I'm following several games in addition to ESO on MMORPG.com and other popular sites.  I know I see the same types of posts on every game I follow.  I see the same type of "review" articles trashing nearly everything these days.  It is a sad state when the very negative and vocal minority ruins otherwise decent games that have the potential to grow into something greater given the chance to grow.

 

 I'm not in the gaming industry, but I do work for a company with a large online presence.  I see how much work goes into making something several hundred thousand users will experience.  I can only imagine the work that goes into making a full-on AAA MMO... and then to see so many trash it and toss it aside after a few days of "play".  I know I've played some stinkers in the past - but I have the decency not to trash it, I simply quit playing and moved on if I felt it was not for me.

I'll be glad when the "me me me" generation mentality has passed.  I sure do miss the good 'ole days when you said nothing if nothing good could be said.... /sigh  (and please don't spout nonsense about constructive criticism... most posts are just downright rude) 

If you think posting 7000+ pages of negative comments works as to guiding how a game will be developed, please wake up and smell the rose-colored roses.  It does not work.  Tearing down a game, or the developers of the games only weakens the gaming community as a whole.  You are effectively cutting down trees to see the forest...

And finally, only by playing the game, spending money on the game can the game improve.  Vote with your wallet if your voice is not heard.  Otherwise how about moving on and let the ones that like a game enjoy it in peace.  Novel concept these days...

 

  artemisentr4

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Joined: 12/25/08
Posts: 1442

5/05/14 10:59:01 PM#28

You can't come here and expect to talk about the Ocean. Most people here are just puddle jumpers.

 

On topic though, I am still in the Ocean. It is like my vacations to Hawaii. Just relaxing and having fun.

“How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?”
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  Torvaldr

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Posts: 6008

5/05/14 10:59:24 PM#29

The OP reminded me of this Bill Cosby monologue.

http://youtu.be/zRySaLcNPYo?t=1m

Curse you AquaScum!

  Burntvet

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Joined: 11/16/07
Posts: 2787

5/05/14 11:02:04 PM#30
This particular pool ain't worth the $60 +$15/mo + cash shop, all other (of the many) issues aside.
  Dkompoze

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Joined: 2/01/06
Posts: 227

5/05/14 11:03:36 PM#31
Theres to many bugs in that there water
  krulux

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Joined: 9/18/04
Posts: 230

 
OP  5/05/14 11:10:54 PM#32

Oh well.. I tried. 

Guess I should get used to playing tablet games.

 

  stayBlind

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Joined: 4/19/06
Posts: 513

5/05/14 11:24:39 PM#33
Without the ability to buy max level characters and gear in the cash shop ... this game is a pass.

Little forum boys with their polished cyber toys: whine whine, boo-hoo, talk talk.

  Ikonis

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Joined: 10/14/11
Posts: 187

5/05/14 11:38:38 PM#34
Ahh the good old 'If you do to Iike this game, then you must just be tired of the genre' post. Page 10 from the fan script.
  bcbully

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5/05/14 11:50:11 PM#35
Lot of new to mmorpg players. 
  krulux

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OP  5/05/14 11:58:15 PM#36
Originally posted by Ikonis
Ahh the good old 'If you do to Iike this game, then you must just be tired of the genre' post. Page 10 from the fan script.

I agree.  That it's said often does not make it less true.

And for the record, if you go back and read my earlier posts -- way back... I'm no ESO fanboy.  In its current state I give the game a "B-".  It could definitely be better, but it is no where near as bad as some are making it out to be.

Same goes for SWTOR, GW2 and TSW.  The same will be said about Wildstar... and for those that try it Arche Age.

 

My overall point is that we as gamers are burning down the houses that make up our city.  Every single MMO that has shipped in the post-WoW era has been mediocre at best.  There were a few that had potential and yet we, me included, torched em'.  Some of them rightly so.

 

As for my real fanboi wishes... I wish they would remake Asheron's Call with a modern engine.  I'm no real fanboi of any of the second, third, fourth or upcoming fifth gen MMO's.  I'm an old school MMO'er - first gen.  I guess what I'm really saying is I don't care which game it is, I just hope the genre survives long enough to give us at least one more gem of a MMO - one that the masses can get behind.  (Also saying, that we as gamers don't have to hate just for the sake of hating... /sickofhate)

  Mr.SeriousGuy

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Posts: 103

5/06/14 12:03:42 AM#37
Originally posted by Ikonis
Ahh the good old 'If you do to Iike this game, then you must just be tired of the genre' post. Page 10 from the fan script.

either they spent way to much on to many moths worth of subscription time or they work at zenimax . either way i doubt they will derail the hate the game has got or the EMINENT F2P model that zenimax will have to use . by my count it may be as little as half a year when they don't sell enough console copies that they cave

 

ESO is a good idea wrapped in subpar coding and redundant fetch quest for the sake of acclimating the players to the world . mean while every one who has ever played mmorpgs is probably sick of the noob area nonsense and probably a bit annoyed you cant skip it in ESO because they nerfd the kill xp and pvp xp  

  yaminsux

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Joined: 12/23/05
Posts: 671

5/06/14 12:06:12 AM#38
I am a subscriber, and I am having fun atm. I already paid for 6 month sub. All I can say is, Zenimax should at least give out buddy pass.
  MyBoot

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5/06/14 12:08:08 AM#39
Better of having them all crying  here then in game were I would have to listen to them all the time.  

  krulux

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Posts: 230

 
OP  5/06/14 12:29:31 AM#40

If ESO, and to a lesser extent Wildstar, fails - then only EverQuest Next remains between us and the end to the AAA MMO as we know it.  It is likely we will not see any major MMO's for some time.  Look around, there are no major rumors of anything except from overseas and maybe Blizzard if their Titan project ever see's the light of day (I hope it does, I own individual shares of Activision Blizzard, Inc stock)

My overall point is that we as gamers need to start playing the games they are making... instead of repeating the same rinse/repeat hype/hate circle jerks we've been partaking in since 2004.

 

/flipside

Given the huge success Star Citizen has had raising real money (lots), any new or otherwise non-mainstream ideas for a MMO will be built from a development funded by crowsourcing, kickstarter etc...  and a part of me, the gamer part, is OK with this.  I've been following Star Citizen for some time now.  I'm an original backer and have spent more than I care to share in support of it.  I've also given a good bit of money to Camelot Unchained... and I hope my investment pays off in both games.

I am willing to put my money where my mouth is... would you pay $100 a month for your perfect premium MMO?  I would... and I think that would finally put and end to all the haters (at least the ones I'd have to listen too.. and probably do away with gold spammers as well..  :)

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