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  fantasyfreak112

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5/02/14 6:03:00 PM#141
If this game has an 8/10 in Social I cringe at any game with a lower score.............
  Savair

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5/02/14 6:14:08 PM#142

It's a shame you didn't make it all the way through the story, I was rally disappointed with the last zone and last part of the main story, it was really lacking after building the whole story through the levels and then for it to fizzle out.  There was meant to be a massive army in our way to our final goal, all it was, was 3 to 4, 3 man packs in the way. I had to treated this like a single player game as like I have said before, It just to frustrating playing it like an MMO, So yea his social score is a tad high I feel.

 

He makes his scores with an element of controversy, look at all the discussion it's generated.

 

  Rebellon

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Perhaps you feel you're being treated unfairly...

5/02/14 6:43:45 PM#143

I'm waiting for the announcement of F2P.

I don't know if anybody has read about the lawsuit between Zenimax and Oculus Rift. Were they claim rights to the technology. Is funny how this occurs more than a month after Facebook buys the the company for 2 billion. This is rather suspicious behavior after not wanting to support John Carmack's endeavor into the technology. Only proves to me how much Zenimax is out of touch. And ESO just solidifies the lack of understanding of what an MMORPG really is.

Why should I pay for an online game that makes it hard for me to group with other players, why evenhave the word ONLINE in the title.

MMORPG, needs to step up the plate and call ES/O? what it really is. Is an RPG game where you pay monthly to play solo. It is SCAM and they know it.

I could give a ten rats ass about the so called features that they have in the new update. This a half  assed made game.

 

 

  JudgeUK

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5/02/14 6:52:52 PM#144

If you are going to give a game review, it needs to include more than just the game.


Sounds a bit strange, but how else do you include something which is directly affecting gameplay for eu players?


There are multiple threads on the forum regarding getting the eu server moved. For those people (myself included) the review has another category - playability - and this score is low, if not zero.


As for this review's social scoring...well, I'd have to say it's one of the more anti-social mmo games I've ever played. Forced solo quests, phasing out of groups/friends, public dungeons where you can get the completion simply by being near rather than actually doing anything.


My guess is the majority of people do the entirety of their pve questing solo. There are group dungeons, but they hold so little rewards that it's easier to just go on with the next solo quest.


Social score = 3


  nate1980

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5/02/14 7:04:16 PM#145

The scoring system if a bit off based. You're rating things based on a scale of 1-10, where 1 is terrible, 5 is average, and 10 is perfect. Yet you're giving scores in certain categories that are hardly believable. You gave polish a slightly above average score, I mean WTF?! You gave aesthetics a near perfect 9?! While I think the game looks good, it's no where near this generations graphics. I'm not going to tear down this review piece by piece, but wow, I need to stop reading these reviews. The scores are just worthless, even if the review itself has some merit. 


This review just sounds biased, not heavily biased, but biased towards positive. I prefer neutrality in the review. 


  Sovrath

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5/02/14 7:09:04 PM#146
Originally posted by Rattenmann
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Rattenmann

 

 

Social 8,.. com'on lol.

It is if you are a "social person".

 

Let' just "pretent" that i stopped playing ESO because i was punished for grouping at every corner and my gaming team did not want to keep trying anymore. So they moved on. Let's further pretent my GF tried harder and forced me to go and level up with her... but she also gave up soon after for obvious reasons. So she moved on as well and so did i.

 

Oh wait, no need to pretent that, this is what happened.  I am one of the few really social MMO gamer out there. I absolutly DO NOT play solo, like at all. And if a MULTIPLAYER game punishes me for that, i don't see a reason to give it a 8 / 10 for social stuff.

The issue here is that the category is "social". Not "grouping".

Grouping can be social. Grouping can also "not" be social. I've been in groups where NO ONE SAID A THING EVER, NOT ONE THING!

As I said in another post, one has to look at the game world and its systems and look at where the game allows one to be social. Certainly grouping should be there. It's a system that allows one to be social.

There are games where You take a quest, run, kill x of y, run back and rinse and repeat. Sure one can be outgoing and social but the games dont' do much as far as adding outlets for social activity. I can play LOTRO for hours and never really need to help anyone, certainy most trading is done with the Auction House so not a lot of interaction there.

Now, ESO's quests are good (my opinion) but they suck as far as allowing social interaction. One can be in a group but if one is to play the game as it is intended one might listen to them. I've had to turn off Team Speak because it interferes with the quests. So yeah, ESO's quests dampen social behavior

Where it IS social is allowing for players to explore and by doing that you will meet players, players who need help and might want additional help. You will then quest and the quests will dampen conversation but in my time playing this game I've grouped a lot and had conversations with people in so many places.  certainly more than the last year of lotro. Easily more than The Secret World.

Waiting for spawns, helping everywhere I can when people need it, taking down the mini bosses and then hanging around, talking to people while waiting and then helping them to take down those same bosses, trading with people, obviously pvp.

That's "social".

  nate1980

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5/02/14 7:12:27 PM#147

Originally posted by Vapors








Originally posted by Golelorn







Just a very expensive, depthless solo game.








Too much time is spent running around doing pointless quest. No community whatsoever. 








This game will be f2p very shortly. Too much is lacking from this game. No viable way to level except the boring quest. No grouping. No socializing. 








Very fun?? Not even close. Its fun for about 40 hours. 















 








So 49 $ for a new released game (solo game) is expensive? There are games you play 9 hours story mode and they are over, where you pay 69$, thats expensive. Even though even 40 hours for 49$ is even over the average gametime of games in that price region.











 




 


I paid ~$70 for mine, because I bought the Imperial Edition. Now, $70 for the content released with the box is a fair deal, however, because it's a subscription based game and due to how long it takes to level in the game, plus my forced casual play and Zenimax's multiple per week downtimes, I won't complete the content in the box for 5-6 months. So instead of it being $70 for the content in the box, the game is now nearing $200 JUST to get through the content offered with the box. With the low amount of polish this game has, that's no where near worth it.


  Knotwood

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5/02/14 7:15:40 PM#148

meh, Honest review, I would have still given it at least an 8.   I think storyline gets a 9-10 and is the most strong characteristic of ESO,  second I would give graphics 9-10 for an MMO "RPG" they are the best out at the moment.  


 


As far as combat and polish,  definatly the lowest factors of the game.  But I would say longevity is defintly going to be right around 9-10 if they keep at the polish in this game. 


 


This game could have gotten a 9-10 easy if it wasn't for the bugs, exploits and slow customer support.   I'll leave it at that.   After they fix all these things in game and make it perfectly polished we are going to see that 9-10 game.


  Ryoshi1

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5/02/14 7:35:15 PM#149

Higher than I expected :D


In it's current state I would give it a high six. Five for those who don't have Imperial Edition.


  Samhael

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5/02/14 7:45:49 PM#150

The metatcritic score may be a 72 but the metacritic user score is a 62. That's probably closer to how I feel the game is but maybe a little high... 


AESTHETICS – 8


INNOVATION - 6


POLISH - 5


LONGEVITY - 5


SOCIAL - 5


VALUE - 6


Once the game goes F2P or B2P, I'd knock the Value score up a point or two.  I'm not even bring the bug aspect in for my personal review or the game would be considerably lower. There were a couple of attempts at innovation but IMO they didn't truly succeed. And in a couple of those cases (guild store over a traditional AH, console/portability, current UI over a "standard" MMO UI, etc) the innovation actually hurt the game. 


  Bjjspider

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5/02/14 7:54:37 PM#151
hello
  Nhoj1983

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5/02/14 8:10:09 PM#152

If you'd asked me two weeks ago I would have agreed with this review... then I was reminded what was lacking when I got the opportunity to play both wildstar and archeage.  Not to mention I bought the d3 epansion and suddenly I found myself not logging into ESO and instead playing those games.  I'd still put it in the 7s but low 7s.  Until now I've never played just the first free month on a new MMO.  I left planning on coming back when I've less on my plate or need a change in flavor. 


 


It's a good game but I found the disguised quest hubs and copy pasta galore a bad taste in my mouth.  I'd rather play a mmo that allows you to diverge from the expected path or at least smooths that path enough that when you encounter a good storyline comes it's a treat not a chore.  Too much of a good thing can devalue the overall package.  I like to play my MMOs along with an audio book, play music, or while I watch a show.  Heck I found it hard to be in vent with guildies as they were more distracting than a pleasant diversion as you had to listen to each and every npc talk if you didn't just want to miss out on a lot of the game.  I'm not sure that full voice acting is really all that great in these games.  Seems like an expensive waste of resources when we've become so used to actually being social while online.  This game is a mmo with a bad habit of making sure you play by yourself.


 


Totally subjective on my part.  I know many who don't want to read ever.  I can understand why but that's my take.  It could just be the way it never let you off the string or some such but I found myself skipping cutscenes far too often here.  At least I wasn't forced to listen to my character talk like in SWTOR.  Loved the crafting emphasis and enjoyed the overall ability to play your class as you want... still, why not let us change classes on the fly?  I think FFXIV and archeage just spoiled me.  *shrugs*


  Path4

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5/02/14 8:23:19 PM#153

You can't please everyone with a game.  I played a few mmos and when I came by this game, it just turned me the wrong way.  I didn't have fun, I only  played for only an hour or so, but if I don't like the game by then I doubt I will after 20+ hours.


Read reviews if you must and some watch videos and if it looks interesting enough to try then buy it.


 


If your not having fun your doing it wrong.


 


  Oph8

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5/02/14 8:33:27 PM#154
I'm not going to argue the score. It is what it is. But, I will say the game is pretty bad. I've never played a mmo so boring in my life.

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  Teala

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5/02/14 10:56:20 PM#155

7.9?   Really?   The game is far from being a 7.9, damn they were to lazy to add underwater swimming and exploration.   ::sigh::   This game is average at best and once again you guys score this game way beyond what it actually deserves.    Just as you have done with any and all AAA titles - and none of them deserved the scores they got either.   You are totally misleading players into thinking this game is better than average and a good game.   It is littered with bugs(still), it has major issues with PvE and you gave it a score of 8 despite the fact that the game destroys group play.   You can't even go back and help a player that is lower than you do a quest.   One of the biggest complaints in the game is the social aspect and you gave it an 8.   9 for aesthetics - seriously?  It is just cut and pasted most everywhere you look...like Aion was, and the view distance is for crap.  The animations are pure - well, just bad.  This deserves a 9?




I can go on...but why bother...typical bloated score from MMORPG.com.   The best this game would get from me is a 5.5 at most - and just like all the other mediocre, generic themeparks since WoW I give this game less than a year and it'll be a ghost town, slipping into the abyss of poorly made games.   





 

  Bjjspider

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5/02/14 10:58:50 PM#156
Good review
  LydarSynn

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5/02/14 11:36:59 PM#157
I didn't play the game long enough in beta to give it a rating of any kind. I uninstalled after two play sessions of about 2 hours each. I really wanted to like the game because I am a big fan of the ES series. I think that reviews should at least consider the IP in this case. Does the game feel like an ES game at all? It didn't to me for several reasons. There was no possibility to being immersed into the ES universe. Points should be deducted IMO for such a poor use of the IP.

 

  Nemesis7884

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5/03/14 12:11:53 AM#158

i dont think youre bothered by the copied dungeons - i wasnt ....doesnt take away from the immersion - other players and bots are much worse...


I would completly agree with 95% of the review - except longevity...i dont see it...but then again, i dont see longevity for any themepark


  Warjin

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5/03/14 12:14:51 AM#159

I don't get it, how do you give GW2 a 9.3 , TSW a 8.5 and FF14 8.4? I am starting to think you guys are getting paid for real, sure the game has bugs but lets be real, this game has more content then the 3 games above combined let alone deep story and lore.


You guys are losing your touch. 


  Panzerbase

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5/03/14 12:28:10 AM#160
The social score of 8 blew up this entire review, got too greedy there. Well it almost worked.
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