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News & Features Discussion  » [Column] ArcheAge: So Much to Look Forward To

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5/01/14 11:58:41 PM#41
Those people saying $150 is to much to invest in a game probably have $500 worth of Pokemon cards sitting in an old shoe box in a closet . In sure you've all spent a lot of money on something that other people find silly.
To each their own.

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5/02/14 12:14:14 AM#42
Originally posted by Supermassive

I feel like the people complaining about "Founder's" packs are just unable to afford them and feel slighted by the game company for not making alpha accessible to them.  

These founder's packs are an awesome way to let the people who "really, really" want to play the game in early, and they will likely help find bugs, and possible issues in translation.  I can guarantee you that people who pay to play will make better alpha and beta testers than the vast majority of freebie beta testers.  This is because those that pay want to see this game truly shine.  That's not to say all beta testers that get in free won't be a help, but I don't see many of these people contributing to the game or communities.  

I personally want to buy the Archeum pack, but due to my schedule probably won't have the time to play it as much as I would like and I can be patient for it.  $150 is a lot of cheese, but when I look back at what i have paid for past MMO's (cough, WOW, cough) and the fact that I tend to stay far away from cash shops as I detest the principle of them, $150 dollars isn't too bad for a game that i could pop on whenever I want for the life of the game and incur no additional cost.  It's all perspective and i feel like most people are pessimistic about everything that cost's money in general.  



Thats funny because i have the money to get into this but i also have the patience to not fall into a cash-grab when i see one.


The game has been out almost 2 years ffs but they are charging almost 3 videogames worth just to get into an alpha? Jesus, not only are they getting paid by the testers they're also getting them to buy the game 3 times over. The investors of this game must be creaming their pants.


The best thing though is i don't know what pisses me off more. That a company will charge 3 times the amount of a game thats already released for "early access" or that people will willingly pay it... making it more likely we'll see companies take advantage of consumers. 


Ive been craving a new mmo, especially a sandbox. I WANT ArcheAge to do well. But i see decisions like this and it makes me weary. If theyre this greedy already just imagine the decisions they'll make down the road. Decisions like adding discos and race cars to a fantasy game like theyve already done with Korea over the last 2 years. Yeah, i know they dont have those in the American version but we'll probably get giant cheeseburgers and an arena in ours.


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5/02/14 5:48:21 AM#43

The problem I have with the founders' packs is I don't know how to value what they offer.

I know what three month's sub to WoW is worth, because I know what you get (three months of wow). I don't know how to value the $45 of this founder pack that will later be repaid as three months of premium subscription because they forgot to mention what premium membership means. 

I know what $75 gets me in EVE's arcanum shop (almost a monocle), because I can look at that cash shop and decide for myself if I can get $75 worth of value out of $75 worth of currency. I can't tell that with AA, because I have no idea what's in the cash shop. 

I've been interested in AA for a while, so I'd value alpha access fairly highly, but it's not $150. Right now I feel like they're asking for me to loan them $120 and later they'll give me that back in 90 days of sub and cash shop value, but they're not making it clear whether the money they repay will be in a form that I actually value the same as the amount they borrowed. 


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5/02/14 5:57:45 AM#44

I want to get the game, but the following is depressing: Hacks, cheats, dupes, bots, exploits


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5/02/14 1:09:18 PM#45

All I can say is the whole game looks great besides the combat. The combat looks so atrocious I wonder if I can look past it to enjoy the game as a whole.

Is anyone else thinking the same way as me?


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5/07/14 2:41:10 PM#46
Originally posted by flizzer
Originally posted by syriinx
Originally posted by ReaperUk

The Archeum pack is actually excellent value for money. Most of the people criticising  the cost probably haven't even bothered to research exactly what you get for your purchase. The alpha server will be running 24/7 until release for a start. Full release of the game is not likely until much later in the year so that gives you probably at least four months of playing the game included in the price you paid. Once the game does release, you have 90 days of Patron status included so that's probably another three months of no extra cost, Finally there is a huge amount of inclusive points that can be spent in the cash shop, so even if you don't renew your patron status, you can probably play for even more months without needing to spend any more real life money.

Compare that with the old fashioned model of a £60 retail box followed by $15 per month subs and I think the AA Archeum deal easily comes out on top for anyone expecting to play for more than a few months

Nice try, but no.

One key thing is "expecting to play".  There are numerous games I expected to play for months.  hell I once bought a 180 day sub for a game I was having a blast in only to get bored and quit 3 weeks later.  The odds are that the majority of the founders will not play 3 months at launch regardless of how much they love the game.  Games often look enticing at first but then the warts show with time.  And those 'warts' might not be bad things, just bad to that person.  Such as the forced PvP to do anything worth doing in the upper levels.  Some will LOVE it, others will find that it ruins the fun of the game.  And of course both viewpoints are valid.

but the simple fact that no one can reasonably expect to want to play for 3 months after launch no matter how they feel about AA today.

And dont try to sell me on the alpha play time, because character progression is wiped.  And those cash shop points?  We dont even know what they are for.


Is it the worst founder pack know to man?  No, it would be perfectly acceptable for an indie f2p game.  Is it a little ridiculous to make the package 150 considering the games has revenue streams?  absolutely.  

Exactly, ultimately we do not even know what those cash shop points will get us.   We don't have enough info to determine the value of this.   Those jumping on the hype train are again hoping, which is the MMO players mantra these days.   

As someone who is currently playing AA I can tell you that the hype IS real in this case. I have been playing the game for a couple of weeks and I can honestly tell you that those items included in the founders packs HAVE value, a lot of value. This game will have the option to pay a monthly sub or just play it for free, so the fact that you get 1, 2 and 3 months subscription included with founder's packs says something about its value. IF you decide you don't want to sub after that period of time, fine, play for FREE. The hereafter stones and evenstones are needed frequently BUT you can CRAFT THEM yourself if you have to, just gather the needed materials. I can see how you can be skeptic about the AA founders packs, but I can honestly say that there is a lot of value in them.  And as far as the cash shop and pay to win opinions, this game is nothing like it, this is the first time I have experienced a true player driven economy, the best pieces of gear in the game are the ones crafted by the players.


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5/10/14 2:14:58 PM#47
I want to play this so bad but I don't want to spend $150. Waiting for open beta.

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5/10/14 3:22:56 PM#48

After playing another themepark mmo that just dint push the genre to a new level i am tired of sailing on themepark hype waves....

Sandbox remains the undispute kings of entertainment in the mmo world....

Cant wait for this to go live and fack me sideways this is going to be one hell of a long wait as i must have looked up hundreds of movies already from korean to russia and finaly NA/EU !!!


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5/10/14 3:31:01 PM#49
I still have that burning feeling after RIFT and Defiance. Though I know Trion isn't creating the game, their track history is pretty bad with the fact they don't even wait a f'in month before firing 80% of their dev team! Trion is failing bad because they are doing the same, dumb mistakes mega companies do but without all the idiots and huge money to buffer them from total loss. I just don't trust Trion from here on out anymore.

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5/12/14 2:44:01 PM#50
Sooo many features.... 90% of which I do not care about unfortunately. I don't craft, I don't tend to get into playing the economy too much. Gathering is ok sometimes but meh... If the quest suck, the combat is tab target run of the mill, and the group content isn't there, than I guess I'll skip this one.

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5/12/14 2:58:58 PM#51
Originally posted by GamerToons

All I can say is the whole game looks great besides the combat. The combat looks so atrocious I wonder if I can look past it to enjoy the game as a whole.

Is anyone else thinking the same way as me?

combat is fine, class system is kind of mediocre though which is the bigger problem.  Not sure if this game will have good group mechanics, which ultimately is the key to great MMORPG combat.



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5/12/14 3:11:20 PM#52
Originally posted by Davfor7
I still have that burning feeling after RIFT and Defiance. Though I know Trion isn't creating the game, their track history is pretty bad with the fact they don't even wait a f'in month before firing 80% of their dev team! Trion is failing bad because they are doing the same, dumb mistakes mega companies do but without all the idiots and huge money to buffer them from total loss. I just don't trust Trion from here on out anymore.

1. Albeit according to this site, it is already "Trion's Archeage"

2. If a company has a history of blindly copying just everything from other companies, it's likely they also repeat the same mistakes. Followed by several rounds of lay offs to keep the company from drowning for the suits failing continously.

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