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  SpottyGekko

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Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 2741

5/01/14 10:47:23 AM#21
The "upcoming features list" that ZOS published is not aimed at the handful of professional cynics that specialise in seeing the negative side of everything ZOS does. It's aimed at normal players who realise that "during the rest of 2014" does not in fact mean "next month".
  BetaBlocka

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Joined: 4/09/14
Posts: 146

5/01/14 10:57:55 AM#22
Originally posted by CoffeeBreak
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by ohioastro
The sour bitching here about a really interesting set of additions to the game illustrates everything that is wrong with this game and the impression it's poor launch has left on it's customers both current and potential.

Fixed for you...no thanks required :)

 

You should try the game.  It's weird that someone would post so many negative comments about a game they haven't played.

 

Pffft...I spent a fair few hours round at a rl friends house checking out the beta and *almost* bought it. I was on the fence having purchased three or four new games around the time ESO launched so thought I would wait and see how the first month panned out. I have 6 rl friends in my close social / gaming circle who have all been playing mmorpgs along with me for over a decade and I trust their opinion.

 

All 6 have of them have chosen not to sub after the free month and we have discussed the games pros and cons ad nauseum...judging by their feedback plus the public clusterfuck that the games launch has turned out to be I made the right choice.

 

That doesnt mean I don't get urked by the shameless white knighting and bizarre level of fanboyism that goes on around here though where the ESO-Mafia rip apart anyone who has issues with the game, try to imply the myriad of issues and bugs / hacks / bots / poor design decisions / poor customer service etc etc do not exist, are made up or are the product of some hate campaign instead of being real issues experienced by real paying customers.

 

I am sure I will try it at some point as I have played all the other ES games plus FO3...maybe when I have a blank window in my gaming schedule, probably once it goes F2P....far too busy beta testing WS and dieing in DS2 right now though :)

  ohioastro

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Joined: 4/07/14
Posts: 283

5/01/14 11:05:04 AM#23

If you don't play a game all of your opinions about it are second-hand and second-rate.  There are all manner of things that aren't to my tastes and that I wouldn't like; for example, there is absolutely nothing about Wildstar or Archage that interests me.  I don't go to those forums and tell people that they're blind fanboys and white knights and general idiots for being interested in them.

There is a place for general comments that put things in perspective, but when people start speaking as if they've experienced things that they didn't then they're playing a far less defensible role.

  winter

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Joined: 8/08/03
Posts: 2224

5/01/14 11:09:22 AM#24
Originally posted by jblah
Originally posted by ElElyon
Originally posted by jblah

Seems like they are trying to keep as many subscriptions as they can by releasing this list now. These items may not be released in a working state for many months but I can see why they would release a list of the items that should have been in game at launch to try to keep people from unsubscribing.

 

"Please don't leave we are going to add all this stuff....at some point....in the future..."

These comments are strange to me.

Are you saying you would rather wait another year to play so they could put this content into the game rather than be able to jump in now and start playing with what they have available? If so, why don't you just quit and come back in a year? That way you get what you want and I get what I want :)

And please do not reply with "but there are so many bugs! They shouldn't release it with all these bugs". You didn't mention bugs, you were talking about available content.

And this would be a good example of why companies are charging people to play in a beta as the standards are getting lower each and every year as to what an acceptable game release is. Before too long people will just pay full price for the game launcher or a premium price for the launcher with colors on it and that will be acceptable to wait until the rest of the game is added.

  Just out of curiousity what MMO had all these feature in at release, hell what MMO has all these features in Now? Certainly not EQ, or WoW so how have standards dropped when most of the bug name MMO's that have been out for years still don't have 50% of these things and still have bugs years after release.

  I Look forward to hearing about these MMO's I've evidently missed because I'm sure your just not hold TESO up to some mythical standard of a MMO in your mind that doesn't actually exist

  venats

Novice Member

Joined: 2/27/14
Posts: 108

5/01/14 11:12:08 AM#25

Those are the same promises they made during beta, with some additions of other things they are adding. Seeing as how none of the promises since then have happened, I won't hold my breathe on these hold-tactics until something actually comes of it.

They promised FOV about two months+ ago to the public, same with the playing with friends... I'm not going to pay 15$/mo to wait for the game to be fixed while skill and combat bugs persist unfixed, untouched, and without acknowledgement.

  CoffeeBreak

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/18/14
Posts: 245

5/01/14 11:12:48 AM#26
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by CoffeeBreak
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by ohioastro
The sour bitching here about a really interesting set of additions to the game illustrates everything that is wrong with this game and the impression it's poor launch has left on it's customers both current and potential.

Fixed for you...no thanks required :)

 

You should try the game.  It's weird that someone would post so many negative comments about a game they haven't played.

 

Pffft...I spent a fair few hours round at a rl friends house checking out the beta and *almost* bought it. I was on the fence having purchased three or four new games around the time ESO launched so thought I would wait and see how the first month panned out. I have 6 rl friends in my close social / gaming circle who have all been playing mmorpgs along with me for over a decade and I trust their opinion.

 

All 6 have of them have chosen not to sub after the free month and we have discussed the games pros and cons ad nauseum...judging by their feedback plus the public clusterfuck that the games launch has turned out to be I made the right choice.

 

That doesnt mean I don't get urked by the shameless white knighting and bizarre level of fanboyism that goes on around here though where the ESO-Mafia rip apart anyone who has issues with the game, try to imply the myriad of issues and bugs / hacks / bots / poor design decisions / poor customer service etc etc do not exist, are made up or are the product of some hate campaign instead of being real issues experienced by real paying customers.

 

I am sure I will try it at some point as I have played all the other ES games plus FO3...maybe when I have a blank window in my gaming schedule, probably once it goes F2P....far too busy beta testing WS and dieing in DS2 right now though :)

 

 

I agree with you.  It make lot more sense for someone that doesn't play a game and who has never played a game to dedicate a decent amount of time to criticizing the game.  It's crazy to think that any of the thousands of people playing the game like it and would like to post about liking it. 

 

Just think.  If you didn't spend time in forums for games you don't play you wouldn't have to see the shameless white knighting and bizarre level of fanboyism.  But who would put the fanboys in their place if not you?  No one.  Keep fighting the good fight.

  Joejc7135

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/06/13
Posts: 204

5/01/14 11:13:35 AM#27
ESO justice system - Everyone gets a refund!
  winter

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/08/03
Posts: 2224

5/01/14 11:17:38 AM#28
Originally posted by CoffeeBreak
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by ohioastro
The sour bitching here about a really interesting set of additions to the game illustrates everything that is wrong with this game and the impression it's poor launch has left on it's customers both current and potential.

Fixed for you...no thanks required :)

 

You should try the game.  It's weird that someone would post so many negative comments about a game they haven't played.

 

 I'd assume its because they are bored from not having any MMO to play. That and some people can't be happy if people like something they don't, The only time they will be happy is if they make sure everyone is just as unhappy or more so then themselves

  BeansnBread

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 5540

5/01/14 11:18:46 AM#29
Is there a date for any of these systems?

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  winter

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/08/03
Posts: 2224

5/01/14 11:18:55 AM#30
Originally posted by CoffeeBreak
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by CoffeeBreak
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by ohioastro
The sour bitching here about a really interesting set of additions to the game illustrates everything that is wrong with this game and the impression it's poor launch has left on it's customers both current and potential.

Fixed for you...no thanks required :)

 

You should try the game.  It's weird that someone would post so many negative comments about a game they haven't played.

 

Pffft...I spent a fair few hours round at a rl friends house checking out the beta and *almost* bought it. I was on the fence having purchased three or four new games around the time ESO launched so thought I would wait and see how the first month panned out. I have 6 rl friends in my close social / gaming circle who have all been playing mmorpgs along with me for over a decade and I trust their opinion.

 

All 6 have of them have chosen not to sub after the free month and we have discussed the games pros and cons ad nauseum...judging by their feedback plus the public clusterfuck that the games launch has turned out to be I made the right choice.

 

That doesnt mean I don't get urked by the shameless white knighting and bizarre level of fanboyism that goes on around here though where the ESO-Mafia rip apart anyone who has issues with the game, try to imply the myriad of issues and bugs / hacks / bots / poor design decisions / poor customer service etc etc do not exist, are made up or are the product of some hate campaign instead of being real issues experienced by real paying customers.

 

I am sure I will try it at some point as I have played all the other ES games plus FO3...maybe when I have a blank window in my gaming schedule, probably once it goes F2P....far too busy beta testing WS and dieing in DS2 right now though :)

 

 

I agree with you.  It make lot more sense for someone that doesn't play a game and who has never played a game to dedicate a decent amount of time to criticizing the game.  It's crazy to think that any of the thousands of people playing the game like it and would like to post about liking it. 

 

Just think.  If you didn't spend time in forums for games you don't play you wouldn't have to see the shameless white knighting and bizarre level of fanboyism.  But who would put the fanboys in their place if not you?  No one.  Keep fighting the good fight.

LoL +1

  Superchieftian

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/12/13
Posts: 84

5/01/14 1:07:28 PM#31
I love these forums. A company becomes more transparent and people bitch. Just love it. SO much hate.
  oldboygamer

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/11/14
Posts: 136

5/01/14 1:13:26 PM#32
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by CoffeeBreak
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by ohioastro
The sour bitching here about a really interesting set of additions to the game illustrates everything that is wrong with this game and the impression it's poor launch has left on it's customers both current and potential.

Fixed for you...no thanks required :)

 

You should try the game.  It's weird that someone would post so many negative comments about a game they haven't played.

 

Pffft...I spent a fair few hours round at a rl friends house checking out the beta and *almost* bought it. I was on the fence having purchased three or four new games around the time ESO launched so thought I would wait and see how the first month panned out. I have 6 rl friends in my close social / gaming circle who have all been playing mmorpgs along with me for over a decade and I trust their opinion.

 

All 6 have of them have chosen not to sub after the free month and we have discussed the games pros and cons ad nauseum...judging by their feedback plus the public clusterfuck that the games launch has turned out to be I made the right choice.

 

That doesnt mean I don't get urked by the shameless white knighting and bizarre level of fanboyism that goes on around here though where the ESO-Mafia rip apart anyone who has issues with the game, try to imply the myriad of issues and bugs / hacks / bots / poor design decisions / poor customer service etc etc do not exist, are made up or are the product of some hate campaign instead of being real issues experienced by real paying customers.

 

I am sure I will try it at some point as I have played all the other ES games plus FO3...maybe when I have a blank window in my gaming schedule, probably once it goes F2P....far too busy beta testing WS and dieing in DS2 right now though :)

 

Ok so you haven't played, but you watched someone else play? So who cares what you think eh?

  Phry

Elite Member

Joined: 7/01/04
Posts: 5069

5/01/14 1:24:27 PM#33
Originally posted by BeansnBread
Is there a date for any of these systems?

Probably around February 30th

 

That their making a statement about a 'wishlist' of things they intend to add in the future, does seem to indicate a certain amount of desperation. The best thing they could do right now is keep on fixing the game, fixing the grouping issues should really be up near the top of the list, the longer this keeps on being an issue, the worse the perception of Zenimax's ability to fix the game will be, and as a corollary, their ability to successfully implement these features within a reasonable time frame.

  Phry

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Joined: 7/01/04
Posts: 5069

5/01/14 1:29:05 PM#34
Originally posted by oldboygamer
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by CoffeeBreak
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by ohioastro
The sour bitching here about a really interesting set of additions to the game illustrates everything that is wrong with this game and the impression it's poor launch has left on it's customers both current and potential.

Fixed for you...no thanks required :)

 

You should try the game.  It's weird that someone would post so many negative comments about a game they haven't played.

 

Pffft...I spent a fair few hours round at a rl friends house checking out the beta and *almost* bought it. I was on the fence having purchased three or four new games around the time ESO launched so thought I would wait and see how the first month panned out. I have 6 rl friends in my close social / gaming circle who have all been playing mmorpgs along with me for over a decade and I trust their opinion.

 

All 6 have of them have chosen not to sub after the free month and we have discussed the games pros and cons ad nauseum...judging by their feedback plus the public clusterfuck that the games launch has turned out to be I made the right choice.

 

That doesnt mean I don't get urked by the shameless white knighting and bizarre level of fanboyism that goes on around here though where the ESO-Mafia rip apart anyone who has issues with the game, try to imply the myriad of issues and bugs / hacks / bots / poor design decisions / poor customer service etc etc do not exist, are made up or are the product of some hate campaign instead of being real issues experienced by real paying customers.

 

I am sure I will try it at some point as I have played all the other ES games plus FO3...maybe when I have a blank window in my gaming schedule, probably once it goes F2P....far too busy beta testing WS and dieing in DS2 right now though :)

 

Ok so you haven't played, but you watched someone else play? So who cares what you think eh?

You obviously haven't watched the 'lets play' on Youtube vids, their a huge advertisement for whatever game is being played, and yes, depending on how good or bad it is, it will affect sales of that game.

  So if people are turned off of buying a game by just watching someone else play said game, then the ones who care about it are usually the sales department of that games developers.

And yes, i have bought games in the past solely on the basis of watching other people play them, albeit on youtube.

  Superchieftian

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/12/13
Posts: 84

5/01/14 1:57:27 PM#35
Originally posted by Phry
Originally posted by oldboygamer
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by CoffeeBreak
Originally posted by BetaBlocka
Originally posted by ohioastro
The sour bitching here about a really interesting set of additions to the game illustrates everything that is wrong with this game and the impression it's poor launch has left on it's customers both current and potential.

Fixed for you...no thanks required :)

 

You should try the game.  It's weird that someone would post so many negative comments about a game they haven't played.

 

Pffft...I spent a fair few hours round at a rl friends house checking out the beta and *almost* bought it. I was on the fence having purchased three or four new games around the time ESO launched so thought I would wait and see how the first month panned out. I have 6 rl friends in my close social / gaming circle who have all been playing mmorpgs along with me for over a decade and I trust their opinion.

 

All 6 have of them have chosen not to sub after the free month and we have discussed the games pros and cons ad nauseum...judging by their feedback plus the public clusterfuck that the games launch has turned out to be I made the right choice.

 

That doesnt mean I don't get urked by the shameless white knighting and bizarre level of fanboyism that goes on around here though where the ESO-Mafia rip apart anyone who has issues with the game, try to imply the myriad of issues and bugs / hacks / bots / poor design decisions / poor customer service etc etc do not exist, are made up or are the product of some hate campaign instead of being real issues experienced by real paying customers.

 

I am sure I will try it at some point as I have played all the other ES games plus FO3...maybe when I have a blank window in my gaming schedule, probably once it goes F2P....far too busy beta testing WS and dieing in DS2 right now though :)

 

Ok so you haven't played, but you watched someone else play? So who cares what you think eh?

You obviously haven't watched the 'lets play' on Youtube vids, their a huge advertisement for whatever game is being played, and yes, depending on how good or bad it is, it will affect sales of that game.

  So if people are turned off of buying a game by just watching someone else play said game, then the ones who care about it are usually the sales department of that games developers.

And yes, i have bought games in the past solely on the basis of watching other people play them, albeit on youtube.

There is a difference though. That thought process is exact what is wrong with this planet.

People can buy/not buy a game based on someone else's experience and it be a valid reason. Reviews are a good source of information about a game.

To watch someone else play and then claim that the game is good/bad based on that person's experience is just stupid. Everyone experiences life differently. You cannot make a claim that something is good or bad without actually experiencing it yourself because YOU do not know.

 

  CoffeeBreak

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5/01/14 2:01:46 PM#36
Originally posted by Phry
 

You obviously haven't watched the 'lets play' on Youtube vids, their a huge advertisement for whatever game is being played, and yes, depending on how good or bad it is, it will affect sales of that game.

  So if people are turned off of buying a game by just watching someone else play said game, then the ones who care about it are usually the sales department of that games developers.

And yes, i have bought games in the past solely on the basis of watching other people play them, albeit on youtube.

 

Agreed.  After watching people doing the start zones in Archeage I can confidently say that it is just an average themepark, questgrinder.  Wow-clone with a more realistic skin.

 

And I've been to Korea and that is not how their cat people look at all.  /fail

  Malabooga

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5/01/14 5:38:06 PM#37
Originally posted by Phry
Originally posted by BeansnBread
Is there a date for any of these systems?

Probably around February 30th

 

That their making a statement about a 'wishlist' of things they intend to add in the future, does seem to indicate a certain amount of desperation. The best thing they could do right now is keep on fixing the game, fixing the grouping issues should really be up near the top of the list, the longer this keeps on being an issue, the worse the perception of Zenimax's ability to fix the game will be, and as a corollary, their ability to successfully implement these features within a reasonable time frame.

It awfully, awfully reminds of SWTOR. It also had "leaked" raodmap (with culmination as Makeb the biggest free update ever) on their official fan site Darth Hater, and even when it was apparent it was going under they still talked of Makeb before end of the year and we all know how well that ended.

People here have memory like 2 year olds apparently.

*oooh, and also, after first month, all server related problems started to magically disappear. But it bit the in their backs when F2P launched because servers got some load again, and they, of course, havent really fixed anything.

  ohioastro

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5/01/14 10:45:55 PM#38

...except that they're rolling out their first big adventure zone and doing other things that were in a prior list just like this.  They've been extremely responsive on things like fixing quest glitches and on other improvements and tweaks.

  Xionar

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5/01/14 10:57:56 PM#39
Originally posted by DAS1337
Originally posted by Satsunoryu
I have to admit, Zenimax appears to be taking a few logical steps here considering their bad start, plus the additions to the game are unique and interesting, along with a few heavily desired mainstays people are getting used to in other MMO's.  

It's sad that they still haven't mentioned anything about housing.  A lot of MMO'ers don't understand the need for it, but a lot of ESO'ers would love it.  Assuming it's done well.

It just so happens that housing was discussed today a little bit in the Reddit AMA.

 

Any plans on housing in the future?

  • We really want to do player housing, but we want to do it right. We don’t have a time-frame to share yet.
  keithian

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5/01/14 11:05:28 PM#40
Originally posted by ohioastro
The sour bitching here about a really interesting set of additions to the game illustrates everything that is wrong with this forum.

Agreed it really is pathetic. Anyway my favorite SLI SUPPORT :-) yay lol

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