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OP  1/16/06 5:44:56 PM#1

Settlers of Ganareth has been a big controversy for Dark and Light. Today in the first of two Q&As, we concentrate on squarely on the prequel/beta that is currently under way. If our hype-meter is any estimate, Settlers of Ganareth has fallen short of some player’s expectations. Why do you believe this is?

The Dark & Light Team: We feel this is because many of our fans were waiting for Dark and Light, and Settlers of Ganareth is not as deep and complete as Dark and Light will be. Thus, some players may have been disappointed by SoG. We would like to remind players that SoG has been offered for free in order to start “pressing the ground” of Ganareth, that is, exploring this huge world and conquering territories. 

You can read the article here.

Dana Massey
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Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios


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1/16/06 6:38:39 PM#2
So basicly they are saying, our game sucks because SOG =/ D&L !  Lol give me a break.

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1/16/06 9:07:28 PM#3  Are you still on target for your announced release date?

Dark and Light Team: We are still on target at the moment.

Ya, WhatEVER !!!  More lies and misleading by the DnL team.  After 4 years, this mmorpg is still very far away from a completed release.

After the last patch they botched, I cannot even log in anymore . . . again.  I've given SoG a very fair chance.  I've followed the game since 2003 with such high hopes.  I realize SoG is a prelude that is not complete, but it is an alpha build of a game that is over 4 years old.  If SoG is all they've done in that time, how will they have DnL ready by April?  Sorry, it's not going to happen, not for players like me who are expecting to see all the features they promised, without all the bugs. 


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1/16/06 9:25:34 PM#4

"the server now regularly welcomes numerous simultaneous players for free game sessions.

LOL!!! Now there's a definitive answer! Numerous simultaneous players. Does that mean, before, they game irregularly welcomed single players for free game sessions?

At least they are honest.
Are you still on target for your announced release date?
"We are still on target at the moment (but we may fall behind schedule next week/month lol)."


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1/16/06 11:26:45 PM#5

at least they are calling it a beta now....

but they still have a LOT of work to do in the next 3 months


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1/17/06 12:06:48 AM#6

Most of mature, wealthy and well-known game companies like blizzard, Turbine aren't making revolutionary games. Pain linear game play rules the whole industry, even with the newest game "DDO".

At the same time, those un-mature, poor and newb companies like Farlans who dare to make sounds-like-revolutionary games such as dark and light or dark fall etc, are such a joke.

Now, big companies are getting more and more used to feed us with linear online single ass sucking games with show-off graphics.

No, how can we let this happen? Those who making mmorpg, should consider themself as making WORLDs, like the old Origin did. So don't bother us with the mutiplayer vs computer A.I & resetting world games, and we should support the company who still dare to make revolutionary games here, mentally


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1/17/06 4:57:48 AM#7

Never thought I would see a company that would make SOE look honest, ethical,  competent, and caring. Compared to this BS though SOE has my undying respect.

I miss DAoC


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1/17/06 5:10:59 AM#8

I'm quite impressed that came with such hard hitting questions. I don't think you'd see such direct questioning and near insults to the game from any other wimpy site like or GameSpot.


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1/17/06 5:47:08 AM#9

I spent two months on the forums excitedly awaiting more info and news.. then when I somehow was lucky enough to get into SoG it only took about an hour for me to go.. oh lord not again..

This game is ALPHA to call this crap beta would be a compliment, if they release in april as planned then plan on getting ripped off big time. This team can't even release a PATCH without messing it up and that says alot for the future. They are slow to fix and develop content.

I don't know about you guys, but what is it about computer developers that make them think it's ok to release half arsed uncompleted work and fix it a year later on our dime. That's called fraud in any other biz.

Yes yes this is not the real game, however, if they release even by the end of the year it will be too soon and you'll get just what I experienced.. another unfinished, never will be finished, dying game.

Three words,





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1/17/06 6:56:13 AM#10

sure the game has alot of bugs.

this game's world is so big its going to take time to find them all. i am sure we have only tuched about 1/100 of the bugs.

i can tell that this game is going to be one of the best MMORPG's to come out.

and they will get all the bugs fixed. i can spend most of my time just exporing this game.

i have made it to the SOG first level cap of 35. and the PVP has been fun.

now with lots of new forts with the last update. and even some quests if you know where to look.

guild have alot of say in this game there putting alot in to this game that no other game has even tried to do.

like guild created content.

when its running more stable most of the poeple that are crying about this game will be eating there words.

it seems to me they have so much to put in to this game there only putting little things in at a time. to check to see if its bugged or not.

kind of like building a computer you only put the main parts in ( video, memory,CPU,motherboard, PSU) to make sure they all work before you start adding in alot of other stuff.


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1/17/06 7:25:58 AM#11

you have GOT to be kidding me!!! I didnt think that a company could get so low as to spout the BS they are now. Dont they realize tons of ppl read their forums? Dont they realize thousands tried out their "work in progress"? To spout the outandout total BS like they did is totally incredible. A new low for all devs in the mmorpg genre.

Yes, they are finally calling it a beta. One shining truthful light.

Newbies "dont have to start quests right away".......THERE ARE NO QUESTS!

What got me the most was the comment about the players helping to make the game.(the game is supposed to be ready btw - this is just a freebie - the REAL game is not this bad and has tons more stuff)  My gawd! The players were telling them HOW TO fix the bugs!

This company is so danged see-through its truly in the pathetic stages now. Kudos to for direct questions. Have a feeling KNEW they were getting a crapload of BS.


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1/17/06 7:29:34 AM#12

I always get this icky, dirty feeling everytime I read something from the DnL team (farlane/np), there just so... is "slimy" the right word ?

Big cudos to for trying to get truth out of them though, although that's probably a stretch at this point.


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1/17/06 7:35:28 AM#13

Lol..... what a joke.  They gave the same "answers" that they have been telling everyone since the beginning.

Also, they say they are still on target date.......  FOR THE MOMENT.  Did no one else read into that?


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1/17/06 7:53:30 AM#14

SoG = Open Beta

no matter what they tell us - there is nothing testing, they can't even provide a patch.
lol the community had to find workarounds and create own torrents to make the client work again

the AD team is only here to close and delete threads of disgruntled players - for the rest
they keep very silent coz there is no word from the devs to give don to the community.

their page holds the same slim info since 3y now and the skill tree PDF was the most laughable
piece of shit i ever saw - this was like thrown together in 5 mins.

Good questions asked by - ask some more and bring the truth to the community.

Ever tried to get more detailed questions from them?
Look at the Dev Chats over the last 3 years - many answers dont even fit to the question or are
just blabla with no real meaning.


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1/17/06 8:49:53 AM#15

Ok, lets be clear about something:

Combat in DNL sucks!! And as long at it does: DNL Sucks, no matter what you call it.

The graphics and sound: great work. Maybe a lesson for the AD Team and Farlan: We fixed the network but where are the users!!!!!!!!

GUYS, open your eyes, and see that you are losing in fact the interest of the people you are aiming your game at. You should fix the things that make other games eventually go down the drain.

Gameplay, speed, nice combat, felxible moving, alternative and freestyle moving: take AC as example: briljant implementation. If you don't fix this, all is lost.


p.s. i played the game during beta for 10 minutes, in a stretch period of 6 weeks i was allowed and the servers were stable for ones. I had to cry so hard about combat, which is completely linear, that i didn't even care to see anything of the world anymore.


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1/17/06 8:54:13 AM#16

Can't judge the game personally, but I made the application and went to download the game file about 7-8 days ago.  It has been the most abysmal file service on any game even EQ2 when it was under load.  They really should have set up more of their staff with PC's available 24/7 or at least broken the files up into single or multiple download format.

Bit-Torrent is not my favourite download tool by far to be honest and HAVING to use it to download one file seems a joke if the ONLY person who is supplying a torrent seems to be ME!

I get around 1-7k max download and MY machine seems to be UPLOADING at my max setting of 10-15k most of the time...

Like I don't mind the sharing concept but I am only just over 50% of the file and my connection is high speed DSL 1.5 meg.  Hopefully I will have the rest of the thing by the time I get back to work after the vacation ;-p

Should have spent more time BEING prepared than advertising their release date to be honest but I can't blame for being excited and wanting to please many but possibly alienating just as many in the process.  It still looks nice from the shots etc. but until I get in I can only GUESS!! lol


All the best guys all the same.


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1/17/06 10:02:09 AM#17

Ah come on MMORPG staff, you can ask better questions than that! Put their feet to the fire.

How about these questions:
- Why do you think you can run 100k simultanious players with DnL when the SoG server has to be rebooted multiple times a day due to stability issues with only 18,881 registered players?
- There have been a lot of complaints about in-game framerates. Is the engine going to be optimized for performance or is it at it's final state?
- There are numerous log in issues currently. Why were these issues not discovered during beta?

Your Q&A's with NP3 are too "fluffy" - you need to get hardcore with the developers. There are just too many unanswered and ignored issues.

Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.
J. R. R. Tolkien


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1/17/06 11:07:50 AM#18

As far as i'm concerned its getting gradually better, Alot more stable than it was and they're fixing the bugs.

The only thing letting them down is the poor/amateurish patching thus far and the permabugged issue.....

Hopefully they already have the quests/crafting etc sorted and just not implimented yet due to the stability issues.

Plenty of people are still playing no matter what all the flamers and whiners say... Get a life guys/gals


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1/17/06 3:48:26 PM#19

im a settler with nothing better to do then bitch, can't play cause of patch to worsen things, they say on target huh, think ill wish in 1 and shit in the other lol


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1/17/06 4:03:30 PM#20
"SoG has been offered for free " as long as you preorder DnL for 60 dollars  
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