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  masterdtox

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Joined: 1/17/14
Posts: 68

4/26/14 9:07:42 AM#41

This game is not worth getting a 8 or 9 in the current shape it is, far away from it. Sorry to say it, all the issues and leak of Endgame at launch  is not a 8 - 9 worthy at all. it is simple as that.

 

PS: i know the new content patch will fix bugs/issues ect bring new raids/dungeons, adventure zone. But ATM once more totally not worthy a score above a 7 and a 7 would be even to kind to give it to this MMO. Small reflection before ppl start to flame i am 50+ and vet ranked. I love this game totally, but i am just being honest about this, and fanboy or not a blind man could see that something is not right with this MMO ATM, to justify a score above 7.

  Zeddakis

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Posts: 97

4/26/14 9:13:39 AM#42
Originally posted by Scot
 

The following reviewers gave TESO between 8 and 9 out of ten:

 

Merlin'in Kazan? (Turkey)

Merlin'in Kazan????...Really?

  cheyane

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Joined: 7/17/09
Posts: 2549

4/26/14 9:16:05 AM#43
You say with confidence OP that the bugs can be fixed and that the reviews should take that into account.  They could not fix the bugs before they released the game . What makes you so sure they can fix it now ? What gives you the confidence to rely on Zenimax when their own inability is amply evidenced .Where is the evidence they can fix it and why did  they not fix it before release ?

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  Creatorzim

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4/26/14 10:34:55 AM#44
Originally posted by Scot
 

The following reviewers gave TESO between 8 and 9 out of ten:

GamesBeat

Cheat Code Central

Hooked Gamers

Meristation

Impulsegamer

XGN

4Players.de

Merlin'in Kazan? (Turkey)

Strategy Informer

Eurogamer Spain

InsideGamer.nl

The Escapist

3DJuegos

NowGamer

Digital Spy

games(TM)

Hardcore Gamer Magazine

Game Revolution

Check Metacritic for links to full reviews.

I don't pay that much attention to reviews if I am playing the game myself. But posters on this site want to keep telling us about 6/10 reviews, so I am pointing out that most reviewers think that is a ridiculous score for TESO. Reviews are mixed on TESO because it is trying to do something different, somewhat slower progression (nothing like as slow in the old days), no Auction House and other differences do not go down well with many players. Having been fed on a diet of easyMMO's and MOBA's thats hardly a surprise.

I would put it at an 8+ not a 9 myself.

 

So no one anyone has heard of and was probably paid off pretty easily...Nice. 

  otacu

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Joined: 4/08/12
Posts: 552

4/26/14 12:23:19 PM#45
Originally posted by baphamet

 

not talking about metacritic, i'm talking about right here. do you not recall the negative beta reviews that people here took as law?

why is that okay but when someone makes a positive one it's because they did it on launch day? are we to assume these reviewers were not in closed beta and were not just waiting for official launch to write their review?

just sayin..

Well BETA reviews are BETA reviews.

And considering how the game turned out to be they were pretty much spot on.

The game is pretty mediocre and especially the PVE is lacking. Considering a 5/10 in PVE and a 7/10 in PVP i guess the reviews with an average around 6/10 are pretty much right.

and it shows on the reviews... the more time it passes the worse reviews it gets. On metacritic the best reviews are almost all week 1 reviews which tells alot about the state of this game.

  fantasyfreak112

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Joined: 4/20/13
Posts: 523

4/26/14 12:35:07 PM#46
Originally posted by Scot
 

The following reviewers gave TESO between 8 and 9 out of ten:

GamesBeat

Cheat Code Central

Hooked Gamers

Meristation

Impulsegamer

XGN

4Players.de

Merlin'in Kazan? (Turkey)

Strategy Informer

Eurogamer Spain

InsideGamer.nl

The Escapist

3DJuegos

NowGamer

Digital Spy

games(TM)

Hardcore Gamer Magazine

Game Revolution

Check Metacritic for links to full reviews.

I don't pay that much attention to reviews if I am playing the game myself. But posters on this site want to keep telling us about 6/10 reviews, so I am pointing out that most reviewers think that is a ridiculous score for TESO. Reviews are mixed on TESO because it is trying to do something different, somewhat slower progression (nothing like as slow in the old days), no Auction House and other differences do not go down well with many players. Having been fed on a diet of easyMMO's and MOBA's thats hardly a surprise.

I would put it at an 8+ not a 9 myself.

Lmao the lengths fanboi's will go....

 

At least Angry Joe backed up everything he said with in game footage. To counter with a bunch a trashy sites no one has ever heard of is terrible form.

  Scot

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Joined: 10/10/03
Posts: 5421

 
OP  4/26/14 2:04:34 PM#47
If you want to compare the relative merits of game review sites, start another thread. To me the reviews that were Under 80 are just as relevant to look at. But there are not just reviews under 80, which is what I was getting at.
  BloodDuality

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Joined: 10/27/07
Posts: 405

4/26/14 3:24:56 PM#48

I always find it hard to trust raw numbers, and like to read the review to see how it is. Scores can change too greatly depending on what the reviewer feels average is. To me I like to see average as a 5/10 like 2.5 stars out of 5. Most reviewers even if a game is average seem to look at it like a grading scale with in the 7 range as average such as getting a C in school. I also would never give a game the highest score possible, because I feel like it would leave no room for improvement. 

If anything the user reviews tend to match my final score for games. Some are overly harsh with 0 scores, and those cancel out the fanboys with the 10s to make a more agreeable average. 

with all that said I would give ESO a totally average 5/10 or 2.5 stars. Still not bad if you think about how I rate things, but would look worse for others if taken in a different context. Review scores need to stop being used as fact, as them by themselves do not tell the whole story. 

  User Deleted
4/26/14 4:19:01 PM#49
Ye, first day reviews for MMO. I can understand first day reviews for games that have 10-15 hours of gameplay total. For a MMO? Just ignore first day reviews. Be it good or bad.
  User Deleted
4/26/14 4:20:46 PM#50
Originally posted by BloodDuality

I always find it hard to trust raw numbers, and like to read the review to see how it is. Scores can change too greatly depending on what the reviewer feels average is. To me I like to see average as a 5/10 like 2.5 stars out of 5. Most reviewers even if a game is average seem to look at it like a grading scale with in the 7 range as average such as getting a C in school. I also would never give a game the highest score possible, because I feel like it would leave no room for improvement. 

If anything the user reviews tend to match my final score for games. Some are overly harsh with 0 scores, and those cancel out the fanboys with the 10s to make a more agreeable average. 

with all that said I would give ESO a totally average 5/10 or 2.5 stars. Still not bad if you think about how I rate things, but would look worse for others if taken in a different context. Review scores need to stop being used as fact, as them by themselves do not tell the whole story. 

Thats why Metacritic takes all reviews and gives average of those. And 74-75 is pretty low.

  User Deleted
4/26/14 4:23:29 PM#51
Originally posted by fivoroth
Originally posted by BeansnBread
Originally posted by baphamet

so what about the negative reviews that were done before launch that the community here took as law? if its negative its a good review, positive and its because they got paid.

that's how the mmo community here works.

the problem with a lot of these reviewers is they compare it to single player games and not other mmo's

IMO if this mmo is average then so is every single other current mmo.

There are no negative reviews on Metacritic that were on or before April 4th.

Critics don't review games before their launch... Or did you mean user reviews? Metacritic doesn't allow you to review a game before its launch. But there were negative user reviews on the 4th April and they were referring to their gameplay before launch (e.g. beta).

I think people who give 0 reviews should be banned from metacritic. It's one thing to give a negative review but a 0. Those people are stupid as fuck. How many games deserve a 0/10. I haven't played a single game that deserves 0/10. It's just not objective. A 0/10 means the game is exceptionally bad. It mean it's broken, unplayable, is worse than 90% of the games out there and has 0 redeeming qualities.

 

Were you saying that those who give 10/10 should be banned also? No? Figures.

  Mothanos

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Joined: 10/20/10
Posts: 1887

4/26/14 4:32:58 PM#52

There isnt a single site i trust anymore, i rather play a beta or snif around the interweb myself before buying any mmo these days.

ESO has solid things other mmo's just lack.

Questing is done wonderfull even if you encounter some horrid quest bug or need to relog.
All quests are voice acted.
ESO is a harcore quest grinder and even tough you can farm mobs to level 50 if you choose so at V1 this quickly ends !

Difficulty of the game is good, Going against Molag Bal as a vampire is Nightmare mode x3.
Even tough you have 5 active skills a block / attack / Ultimate there are TONS of builds you can make.
Make no mistake once you hit Veteran Rank 1 your "bad" skill selection will get you in trouble.
If you are a vampire like me then some quests might get you 1 or 2 shotted making the game even for hardcore gamers a challenge !

Cyrodiil is a great zone, its just realy badly implemented in terms of leveling your character...
I realy wish they would open this zone up for people who get tired of the quest grind and want to walk another path to max level.
Why Zenimax dint do this is realy realy stupid :(

Graphics are good, toss in Radeon Pro with a preset + ESO launcher and you have a totaly diffrent game engine ! :)
No more fog and Shader 5 + draw distance on max needs a beast pc, but man its jaw dropping eyecandy.

Community seems shit like all mmo's these days :(
I have a solid guild so i always group with them, but its like each mmo that comes out brings more and more douchebags.

Dungeon Crawling is ok and even tough i would like to have them a little harder at V1+ i think you also need lesser skilled people to clear those and get used to its difficulty.
Craglorn needs to be insane tough, endgame is what i am looking forward to the most.

When i need to give a verdict about ESO i would rate it a 7/10 but no where near a 9/10
I think i can safely say that many people wont make it to V10 before ending their sub.
This game might be to hardcore for "casuals" to grind trough and with a wrong skill selection your going to die a thousand times.
As this game can make you frustrated as fack at some points.

Zenimax is in for a rough ride with this one no doubt.
But even with all its flaws, it certainly has its charme and is a welcome change to all the easy mode mmo's out there.

Again a 7/10 is a good average maybe a 6/10 for now untill they iron out the massive list of class and quest bugs.

  DrunkWolf

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Posts: 1120

4/26/14 4:33:00 PM#53
yeah and Star wars was a 9/10 on these sites to.
  Shephard

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Joined: 4/18/14
Posts: 71

4/26/14 6:56:18 PM#54
Reviews for MMOs mean nothing, both good and  bad.  If reviews meant anything, games like SWTOR, WAR and GW2 would be the most successful MMOs but they were the opposite.
  venats

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Posts: 108

4/26/14 7:12:31 PM#55
Originally posted by Shephard
Reviews for MMOs mean nothing, both good and  bad.  If reviews meant anything, games like SWTOR, WAR and GW2 would be the most successful MMOs but they were the opposite.

SWTOR and GW2 are both financially positive by a wide margin.

To be financially positive they need to have players playing.

WAR died a horrible death, and was never profitable or positive.

  Knotwood

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Posts: 1117

4/26/14 7:15:19 PM#56
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

People only post reviews of well known critics and review sites. Its the same for every other MMO released before ESO. Its not some conspiracy against ESO trust me.

Majority of the websites you linked..i am sure many do not even know about. Even for me these sites are unknown.

I have always paid attention to PC gamer, IGN and Gamespot for all my reviewing needs.

IGN  7/10.  Gave it a great review.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/04/21/the-elder-scrolls-online-review

My review on PC Gamer and Gamespot reviews...

As far as PC gamer and Gamespot  PC Gamer use just a blogger, who wanted more sandbox PVP then the RPG side of the game and doesn't like questing at all, and as far as Gamespot goes, the guy who did the review slapped every Elder Scrolls fans in the face by bashing on oblivion IV (even when gamespot gave Oblivion 9/10 long ago) and wanted nothing more then a sandbox game so he gave it a 6/10. 

 

When you have a list as long as the OP shows praising a game,  I think its safe to say, two of the three you listed is pretty much wrong, and I just listed the reasons why they gave their poor reviews because I read them already and they wanted completely different game genres.

  Knotwood

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4/26/14 8:51:15 PM#57
Originally posted by Pemmin
Originally posted by Scot
 

The following reviewers gave TESO between 8 and 9 out of ten:

GamesBeat

Cheat Code Central

Hooked Gamers

Meristation

Impulsegamer

XGN

4Players.de

Merlin'in Kazan? (Turkey)

Strategy Informer

Eurogamer Spain

InsideGamer.nl

The Escapist

3DJuegos

NowGamer

Digital Spy

games(TM)

Hardcore Gamer Magazine

Game Revolution

Check Metacritic for links to full reviews.

I don't pay that much attention to reviews if I am playing the game myself. But posters on this site want to keep telling us about 6/10 reviews, so I am pointing out that most reviewers think that is a ridiculous score for TESO. Reviews are mixed on TESO because it is trying to do something different, somewhat slower progression (nothing like as slow in the old days), no Auction House and other differences do not go down well with many players. Having been fed on a diet of easyMMO's and MOBA's thats hardly a surprise.

I would put it at an 8+ myself.

just gonna throw this out there but over half of those were done on release day April 4th and Merlin'in Kazan? (Turkey) was done on april 2nd.

Your basicly saying that release date wasn't good enough of a review date?   That it should be judged on bugs and not how good the game was up to launch?

  Superman0X

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Posts: 1149

4/26/14 9:26:09 PM#58

The current metacritic rating is 74

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-online

You can just read the reviews for yourself. A 'good' rating is considered 85+ 

 

 

  keithian

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4/26/14 9:55:41 PM#59
Originally posted by Superman0X

The current metacritic rating is 74

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-online

You can just read the reviews for yourself. A 'good' rating is considered 85+ 

 

 

Ridiculous, with that mindset I would have missed a lot of awesome movies on rotten tomatoes and skipped a lot of good games. Most of these so called professional reviews are ratings based on things I couldn't give a crap about including Bill on this site who will probably give the game a 7 out of 10.

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  keithian

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4/26/14 10:00:39 PM#60
Originally posted by Creatorzim
Originally posted by Scot
 

The following reviewers gave TESO between 8 and 9 out of ten:

GamesBeat

Cheat Code Central

Hooked Gamers

Meristation

Impulsegamer

XGN

4Players.de

Merlin'in Kazan? (Turkey)

Strategy Informer

Eurogamer Spain

InsideGamer.nl

The Escapist

3DJuegos

NowGamer

Digital Spy

games(TM)

Hardcore Gamer Magazine

Game Revolution

Check Metacritic for links to full reviews.

I don't pay that much attention to reviews if I am playing the game myself. But posters on this site want to keep telling us about 6/10 reviews, so I am pointing out that most reviewers think that is a ridiculous score for TESO. Reviews are mixed on TESO because it is trying to do something different, somewhat slower progression (nothing like as slow in the old days), no Auction House and other differences do not go down well with many players. Having been fed on a diet of easyMMO's and MOBA's thats hardly a surprise.

I would put it at an 8+ not a 9 myself.

 

So no one anyone has heard of and was probably paid off pretty easily...Nice. 

You've never heard of Digital Spy, the escapist, eurogamer, and gaming revolution? You must be new to gaming. Regardless a popular site doesn't make the review any more valid, especially when it's premise is comparing to a single player game which ZENIMAX said months ago that they weren't trying to make Skyrim Online. Unrealistic people from all spectrums of life just can't accept that.

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