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General Discussion  » And another review rolls in, Gamespot 6/10

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  User Deleted
4/25/14 7:48:48 AM#41

Site gives a a not so positive review:

- Fanboys: OMG. Who cares? They gave COD a 9.

- Haters: Pretty accurate review. Just goes to show how crap the game is.

 

Site gives a glowing review:

- Fanboys: Pretty accurate. Just goes to show how awesome the game is.

- Haters: OMG. Who cares? They gave COD a 9

 

Sites gives a review:

- Me: Hey look, GS gave their review. Let's see what they have to saw (watches review) OK, cool. Now, to the comments.

  User Deleted
4/25/14 7:49:15 AM#42
Originally posted by summitus
 

And as I said Bill Murphy has been the most balanced and fair of them all so far.

You have got to be kidding...

In the face of all other review sites' scores and criticisms, what stands out is that MMORPG.com's review was bought and paid for... like all of their reviews.  Bill and company should be professionally embarrassed at how they helped bilk players out of their money by promoting the game with false rhetoric.  Staff at MMORPG.com ought to work for the Obama administration.

This is why this site has no credibility anymore.  It used to, but that was years ago.

Money corrupts.  This is the last place I'd ever go for a formal, fair, and unbiased review.  On the plus side, however, the forums aren't over-moderated and players can call a turd a turd.

  Rusque

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4/25/14 7:50:08 AM#43
Originally posted by DEAD.line

Site gives a a not so positive review:

- Fanboys: OMG. Who cares? They gave COD a 9.

- Haters: Pretty accurate review. Just goes to show how crap the game is.

 

Site gives a glowing review:

- Fanboys: Pretty accurate. Just goes to show how awesome the game is.

- Haters: OMG. Who cares? They gave COD a 9

 

Sites gives a review:

- Me: Hey look, GS gave their review. Let's see what they have to saw (whatches review) OK, cool. Now, to the comments.

Well one thing we can all agree on, COD is a 9/10 game. lol

 

  RabidMouth

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4/25/14 7:52:39 AM#44
The game does not deserve a sub. That is the bottom line. All of the problems it has would be acceptable in a B2P or F2P title. You can't charge a box price + sub for something that does not feel finished.

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

  Phry

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4/25/14 7:57:25 AM#45
Originally posted by CowboyHat
The game does not deserve a sub. That is the bottom line. All of the problems it has would be acceptable in a B2P or F2P title. You can't charge a box price + sub for something that does not feel finished.

I think people would still be calling them out on the state of the game if it was F2P or B2P, though i do agree that in its present state the game is not worth a sub, whether it will be worth one in the future really depends on how well they fix things, and whether any improvements are made to the PvE side of the game, especially all these grouping issues, one thing for sure though, if the game went F2P then the current problems with bots etc, would only get worse.

  uidLuc1d

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4/25/14 7:58:44 AM#46
The fact that people actually read reviews entertains me.  "Tell me what I like oh person I'll never meet!"
  Kyleran

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4/25/14 7:58:51 AM#47

Funny thing, I enjoy playing ESO, yet I couldn't really find fault with most of his points.  I guess the question for the player isn't whether the designs are good or bad, but whether you like the more solo nature of the game, vs the challenges for grouping.

I find it's the usual case of being only average at everything.  I mean, they have a lot of great stories that I solo, but then there's all these other people around me, visiting the same Npc's, killing the same bosses,   If it's solo oriented, let me kill the targets solo, heck, I frequently get credit running up on a fight and not actually even attacking, but just by being there.

Grouping does have it's problems as he said, I don't do it, but several friends and their wives have hilarious conversations on voice chat when one of them picks a different story option than the other and they find each other unable to continue forward together in the story line.

I can't say he's wrong by giving it a 6, I was thinking more like 6.5 but can't really call it a great game.

I haven't done any PVP to speak of, might be the redeeming part of it, but I'll eventually get around to it.

Too busy questing atm. 

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
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  Pratt2112

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4/25/14 8:02:57 AM#48
Originally posted by Panzerbase

Gamespot offers a 6 for ESO, in line with the latest professional reviews. The momentum is hard to stop once it gets rolling

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/the-elder-scrolls-online-review/1900-6415741/

Yeesh.

Okay, will be interesting to see what new wave of dismissive remarks, ad-hominems and excuses we get for this round...

  ohioastro

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4/25/14 8:05:30 AM#49

There have been a spectrum of reviews fpr this game, and yet somehow it's always the most negative ones that deserve to be promoted here in general discussion.  Every single time the recent post list is not dominated by something negative one of the usual crowd seems to be motivated to come in and add a little more doom and gloom.  Go to metacritic, look at the list of reviews, and notice that it's only the most hostile that get "promoted" here.  And, more to the point, isn't there in theory a separate reviews sub-forum?

If it's not reviews in magazines it's youtube ones (hostile, naturally).  Or some other cause of the day - gloating over bugs, or inventing problems with the payment model.

I'd suggest that the relevant people get another hobby.

  ChipSet91

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4/25/14 8:05:53 AM#50
Originally posted by GoldenArrow

THIS GAME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SINGLE PLAYER SERIES.

 

 

I agree, I mean beside de name, the lore, the races, the game world, the class.....ESO has nothing to do with the other Elder scroll games.....=P

  ohioastro

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4/25/14 8:06:16 AM#51
Originally posted by TangentPoint
Originally posted by Panzerbase

Gamespot offers a 6 for ESO, in line with the latest professional reviews. The momentum is hard to stop once it gets rolling

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/the-elder-scrolls-online-review/1900-6415741/

Yeesh.

Okay, will be interesting to see what new wave of dismissive remarks, ad-hominems and excuses we get for this round...

You could start by explaining why, in the metacritic list, only the most hostile reviews are worth talking about.

  Pratt2112

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4/25/14 8:09:28 AM#52
Originally posted by Knotwood

Same broken record.   People who want to level with their friends who hate the game...   Do people need their hand held this much on a solo MMORPG?    In most mmo's you only need groups when in dungeons and end game raiding, I don't see why ESO should be so different... 

 

Never knew hand holding was a requirement in a game.  I think Zenimax is starting to find this out with all these reviewers.

 

Notice how this review hates it for not being a solo ES game, and yet hates it again that its not a group MMO.  haha, double standard reviews, I love it!  Then goes on to say how ES games of the past are just as crappy as ESO when it should be you creating your own story... (if that wasn't a "I want only sandbox" type statement Idk what is)   He rates this game 6/10 because he wanted a sandbox and not an Elder Scrolls game.   Sad really.

 

Then he talks about how he doesn't like the stamina and health bars without cooldowns.  He would rather have skill cooldowns.   Which ultimately is not Elder Scrolls at all. 

 

Gamespots review of Elder Scrolls Oblivion IV.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWcHEBJ0wmY  

Do you think the Gamespot ESO review is out of touch with what an ES game is about,  after watching their oblivion review?  You decide.

 

lol...

That you would take something like "Hey, you know I'd really love to be able to group up with friends and play, rather than doing so much solo, because it's more fun that way", and twist it into a dismissive, even insulting, strawman - just to defend "your game" against a less than stellar review - only serves in demonstrating your intolerance toward any review that doesn't reflect your own.

It also demonstrates that you can't differentiate between people wanting to play with friends/others, because they find it more enjoyable... and needing to have their hand-held. I wonder just how much you're projecting when you make those remarks. Either way, it's unfortunate that you, demonstrably, don't understand the difference between the two.

  ohioastro

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4/25/14 8:11:46 AM#53

Let me guess - you haven't played the game and are just reading from the hate parade cue cards, right?  I'm seeing the same handful of posters promoting this review who have been lingering in this forum giving cheap shots for weeks.  Look over the OP posting history here, for example, if you want a representative example...

  Gaia_Hunter

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4/25/14 8:12:12 AM#54
Originally posted by uidLuc1d
The fact that people actually read reviews entertains me.  "Tell me what I like oh person I'll never meet!"

That isn't a review.

A review is telling what the reviewer liked and disliked.

Hotel X review - has no free wifi, decent room size, quiet location near public transportation.

Hotel Y revie - has free wifi, smallish room, located in the city center close to tourist attractions.

Now you read the reviews and according to your priorities and tastes, decide which of these hotels (if any) is good for you.

 

 

Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, King of Tokyo

  Pratt2112

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4/25/14 8:15:10 AM#55
Originally posted by Knotwood
Originally posted by Burntvet

 

One of the major selling points of this game is for the first time you could "play an ES game with your friends".

Too bad that after that hype, ESO does a crappy job of delivering on it.

That is the point.

 

Playing with your friends does not mean having your hend held on solo quests from 1-50.    not to mention end game you can be with your friends..   doing adventure zones, which is 4 player group content the size of zones which are like dungeons,  1 guaranteed sky shard and 1 guaranteed boss.    I just do not get all this hand holding requirement a MMO must have, its a new requirement for MMO's. 

... only it has nothing to do with "needing to have their hands held". Again, that you can't imagine any other situation where people might want to group up and play the game - whatever part of it they may be doing - beyond "they need to have their hands held" demonstrates a lack of imagination or understanding on your part... not a lack of "ability to play the game solo" on theirs.

Again, you are attempting to insult and dismiss an entire population of players as being incapable of handling the game on their own (again, because they dared to be critical of "your game"). Yet, all you succeed at is demonstrating your own short-sightedness.

 

  RabidMouth

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4/25/14 8:16:23 AM#56
Originally posted by ohioastro

Let me guess - you haven't played the game and are just reading from the hate parade cue cards, right?  I'm seeing the same handful of posters promoting this review who have been lingering in this forum giving cheap shots for weeks.  Look over the OP posting history here, for example, if you want a representative example...

This is to be expected with any new release. There will always be people who like the game and those who do not. There will be an endless debate about how good/bad the game is until the next big release.

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

  summitus

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4/25/14 8:16:50 AM#57
Originally posted by Yoda_Clone
Originally posted by summitus
 

And as I said Bill Murphy has been the most balanced and fair of them all so far.

You have got to be kidding...

In the face of all other review sites' scores and criticisms, what stands out is that MMORPG.com's review was bought and paid for... like all of their reviews.  Bill and company should be professionally embarrassed at how they helped bilk players out of their money by promoting the game with false rhetoric.  Staff at MMORPG.com ought to work for the Obama administration.

This is why this site has no credibility anymore.  It used to, but that was years ago.

Money corrupts.  This is the last place I'd ever go for a formal, fair, and unbiased review.  On the plus side, however, the forums aren't over-moderated and players can call a turd a turd.

No I'm not kidding , and what evidence do you have that mmorpg.com reviews games for money ? None is the answer, and accusing them of such is not fair. They have stated on many occasions that this view you and others have is nonsense and yet you still throw about accusations without proof.

Show the proof you have of this and then you can post it all you like.

  Horusra

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4/25/14 8:18:12 AM#58

Users here give the game an 8.2

 

  Pratt2112

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4/25/14 8:18:16 AM#59
Originally posted by ohioastro

Let me guess - you haven't played the game and are just reading from the hate parade cue cards, right?  I'm seeing the same handful of posters promoting this review who have been lingering in this forum giving cheap shots for weeks.  Look over the OP posting history here, for example, if you want a representative example...

What does the OP's posting history have to do with the review they linked? 

Another website reviewed ESO. Someone posted a link to that review on the ESO forums here.

It doesn't matter who posted it. The review stands on its own. That you don't like the review doesn't change that.

 

Again, it's just amazing the ridiculous things some of you people will say in defense of someone criticizing "your game".

 

  User Deleted
4/25/14 8:23:03 AM#60
Originally posted by Rusque
Originally posted by DEAD.line

Site gives a a not so positive review:

- Fanboys: OMG. Who cares? They gave COD a 9.

- Haters: Pretty accurate review. Just goes to show how crap the game is.

 

Site gives a glowing review:

- Fanboys: Pretty accurate. Just goes to show how awesome the game is.

- Haters: OMG. Who cares? They gave COD a 9

 

Sites gives a review:

- Me: Hey look, GS gave their review. Let's see what they have to saw (whatches review) OK, cool. Now, to the comments.

Well one thing we can all agree on, COD is a 9/10 game. lol

 

To be fair to GS, the reviewer is Kevin. The guy that gave COD:Ghosts an 8 was a different one.

Personally, i find Kevin to be a great reviwer from most of the ones i've seen. I don't follow him, but when i hear his voice, i almost always find the piece to be well written and the video to be good.

If you check his bio in the end, he's played mmos since AC and TES games since Daggerfall, so he's not so FPS guy that doesn't know what he's talking about. Now, i can't agree or disagree with him since i only played beta. 

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