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General Discussion  » ZeniMax's official stance is that the dupe only took place yesterday, the 17'th.

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  spizz

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Posts: 2583

4/19/14 11:32:57 AM#41
Originally posted by stickman1979

Here is the official ZeniMax reply from ZOS_JessicaFolsom :

 

Relevant snip:

Yesterday, we identified an item duping bug in ESO that some players chose to exploit. We acted quickly, and have since fixed the issue.

 


 

 

When I read this I dont come to the conlusion that Zenimax official stance is that the dupe only took playe yesterday.

They only write they did identify an item dupe yesterday and reacted.

  Fdzzaigl

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Joined: 8/22/09
Posts: 2002

4/19/14 11:43:31 AM#42

If you google how easy the dupe is to do.

It would actually be MORE insulting for them if they really did only figure it out that late, at least from a certain perspective.

  Alalala

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Joined: 8/03/06
Posts: 275

4/19/14 11:46:16 AM#43

dupes, speed hacks, trainers, and many other cheats and exploits.

 

lol

  mrgrimrpr

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Joined: 12/28/04
Posts: 92

4/19/14 11:59:10 AM#44
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Mothanos

Its fixed now so what gives ?
Does it affect me ? nope
I still like the game even tough mistakes were made.

But man does some people know how to cause drama !
Hilarious as if their entire life depends on it !

I have much more problems with bots inside public dungeons then some cheaters duping items.
All shit i need comes from out guild and master crafters where we donate most of our items to.
When i want a gear upgrade they make it.

Never used the auction house either as its useless with a good solid guild.
And gold ? got plenty of it but nothing to spend it on.

Back to Cyrodill now !

Well thank goodness then that world doesn't revolve just around you. I love how the most hardcore fans always find time between their busy playing schedule to drop in forum from time to time to downplay and insult those who are having issues with the game. it is as if they have one eye on forums and and one eye on the screen.

Seems like forums are more fun than the game itself.

Oh really? Please explain how that almost 200 hours of ESO was not worth your time?

 

You do tend to complain and bitch about a game that you played for 200 hours. It Must suck. Furthermore, Convenient time to take down your /played tracker huh?

 

Some people are just plain crazy.

  cura

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Posts: 862

4/19/14 12:16:48 PM#45
I dont get why people are so mad about this.  Duping bug is balanced out by dissapearing inventory stuff. Everyhings working as intended ;-)
  SBE1

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Joined: 6/05/06
Posts: 339

4/19/14 2:28:57 PM#46

I've got about 50 million gold from the dupe and some nice items, but I did it early in the game.  No ban, so I suspect they only banned people who were doing it on that particular day.

I reported the dupe bug back in beta, but since they didn't bother to fix it, I used it when the game went live. 

  stickman1979

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Joined: 4/17/14
Posts: 32

 
OP  4/19/14 5:17:26 PM#47
Originally posted by spizz
Originally posted by stickman1979

Here is the official ZeniMax reply from ZOS_JessicaFolsom :

 

Relevant snip:

Yesterday, we identified an item duping bug in ESO that some players chose to exploit. We acted quickly, and have since fixed the issue.

 


 

 

When I read this I dont come to the conlusion that Zenimax official stance is that the dupe only took playe yesterday.

They only write they did identify an item dupe yesterday and reacted.

That's even worse. It took them weeks to identify a dupe that was in the game since launch? They also took absolutely no action. Look at ownedcore and other hacking sites. People are posting "I'm safe after duping confessions" and time stamped screen shots with countless duped items.

  SalmonMan

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Joined: 1/06/10
Posts: 75

4/19/14 5:29:47 PM#48

Only identified recently huh? Sure! This was reported back in beta and they ignored it, and went and shipped the game anyway. Just shows their inexperience. And, then just flat out saying that all ES games ship with bugs? Jeeesuz.

  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 4844

4/19/14 5:47:40 PM#49

It's the exact same situation as with Neverwinter last year! Where a similar dupe made it to launch and existed for more than 2 weeks before Cryptic finally took action.... or rather inaction!

They know that in order to fix such a severe exploit, is to basically reset the entire game. Which they can't and won't do.

So instead, they just lie in our faces, saying it only existed for a day and do a small rollback as "token" action. Keeping up the appearance they are taking action. While in fact, they are not.

The amount of People that exploited is so staggering. And in case with ESO it's even worse and so many People could do it by accident without knowing. If they had to ban all these People, there won't be many active accounts left.

So there it is and that's that. The game will roll on and the exploiters get away with it. Economy wrecked.

Good Luck! Have fun!

I am out. Just like I did with Neverwinter last year! Will never touch another Cryptic game! That's for sure!

I just canceled my sub!  I will take a wait and see approach. But so far... things aren't exactly looking hopeful. /shrug

  stickman1979

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Joined: 4/17/14
Posts: 32

 
OP  4/19/14 5:58:45 PM#50
Originally posted by JeroKane

It's the exact same situation as with Neverwinter last year! Where a similar dupe made it to launch and existed for more than 2 weeks before Cryptic finally took action.... or rather inaction!

They know that in order to fix such a severe exploit, is to basically reset the entire game. Which they can't and won't do.

So instead, they just lie in our faces, saying it only existed for a day and do a small rollback as "token" action. Keeping up the appearance they are taking action. While in fact, they are not.

The amount of People that exploited is so staggering. And in case with ESO it's even worse and so many People could do it by accident without knowing. If they had to ban all these People, there won't be many active accounts left.

So there it is and that's that. The game will roll on and the exploiters get away with it. Economy wrecked.

Good Luck! Have fun!

I am out. Just like I did with Neverwinter last year! Will never touch another Cryptic game! That's for sure!

I just canceled my sub!  I will take a wait and see approach. But so far... things aren't exactly looking hopeful. /shrug

And it's because of this very attitude that I am taking advantage of the current mail chest dupe. My guess is there will be no consequences.

  onlinenow25

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Joined: 6/26/07
Posts: 278

4/19/14 7:14:17 PM#51
Originally posted by Necropsie
Originally posted by Skah2go

Oooh a google cache and some amazon review. Big whoop. 

I found out about this bug yesterday and guess what, I am in one of the biggest guilds in the game.

Amazon dates are easy to fake and that google cache date is the 16'th, so the longest this dupe has been around for is from the 16th.

Whatevah haters gonna hate.

I really dont understand this type of mentality. You may love a game, you may be fanboy of it, sure, but why the blind defense? It is obvious this account has been created just to post this kind of "no, everything is fine, you are all haterz" posts. Why? A simple Google search can show you that this bug is really in the game since beta. I am asking again, why? Why do a person wastes his/her time and energy to create a fake account just to blindly defend a game which he/she has paid for? Very empty life with nothing to do? Is it really hard to say "I love the game and i will keep subbing it, but this issue and official response is not good"?

I feel its better to assume this person is not actually a paying customer, but a paid worker to try and discredit forum posts like this.

 

Its just another way to try and stifle negative facts/opinion/comments to try and get those on the fence of any situation to side with the game company then actually look at the situation objectively. 

  onlinenow25

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Joined: 6/26/07
Posts: 278

4/19/14 7:28:06 PM#52
Originally posted by jircris
This bug has been around since beta sadly, the funny thing is they are starting to ban those who abused it. so if you were dumb enough to abuse it then expect a ban msg when you log on one of these days. My trading guild lost 60 members for abuse of this bug. I knew about it but being a long time mmo player i knew better then to abuse something such as this, or any explote in mmos...it never really pays off.

Those people will not be banned for long.  Its before the 30 day period and if any of them are EU they can get a refund.  Hell even if they are in the US they can just have their bank do a charge back for not providing 30 days of service.

 

When something is this easy to exploit, its pretty much impossible for them to do a mass banning w/out losing a large portion of their player base.  It sucks, but its their own fault for not fixing an exploit that is actually easily replicated on accident.

  Distopia

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4/19/14 7:40:02 PM#53
Originally posted by onlinenow25
 

I feel its better to assume this person is not actually a paying customer, but a paid worker to try and discredit forum posts like this.

 

Its just another way to try and stifle negative facts/opinion/comments to try and get those on the fence of any situation to side with the game company then actually look at the situation objectively. 

Look there's no getting around "the facts" in this case, the fact is there's a dupe, and people are questioning what's being done about it. Even the poster you're talking about said nothing about this not happening, it's about the time frame of it happening, there are no real facts; at least not what I'd consider facts, in regard to that. A lot of "he said, she said" yet no real concrete proof of that. I guess I must be paid to say this as well, because I certainly am not affected by something that happens in a game I do not own.

Some of us actually care about the facts, especially us fence sitters...to put it plainly, there's no reason to look at this objectively more than that. That's how one makes informed decisions on whether they should bother with a game or not. Posts like this are just muddying the waters at this point. IF you have facts present them, I'd love to see them.

I'd love to know if this was actually around since beta.  I"ve seen nothing yet that says it was or wasn't. Just a bunch of conjecture, the typical fanboi V hater dialogue and a whole bunch of questions/theories. Not to mention two questionable sources.. An edited ( multiple times) player review, and a screen capped forum post.  You know what they say about believing everything you see on the internet? Apply that here..

 

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

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  ElRenmazuo

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4/19/14 7:46:03 PM#54
Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun
  HorrorScope

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4/19/14 7:49:08 PM#55
Like real life, all the rich people aren't truly legit, many exploited their way their. A big reason to jump into a MMO early is to find the weak spots and gain power and wealth before they are found and nerfed.
  skeaser

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Posts: 3686

Don't die mad, just die.

4/19/14 8:27:47 PM#56

/shrug

Don't see how it impacts me. Whatever, back to having fun exploring!


A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
-Friedrich Nietzsche

  Zeblade

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4/19/14 8:49:25 PM#57

Like said above..you see people for what they really are. You see some that hide there head in the sand and don't want to get involved. Have some that just go crazy lol so to speak and then some that just plain out lie.

Me..I'm not like most. I look at life as..what if it was me what would I want..thats what I do. Game or real life I may not like it but I will help. If it was my game I would want players to help to report not to cheat. Most do..  You say sure you would here but in game or our in real life you wont.

Case in point took two kids to mall. The show asked just before this if you saw two kids lost in a mall would you help? DUH ALL said yes. So 616 people walked past the two little girls and never helped. Real life yet same in game. You dont care.

  flizzer

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4/19/14 8:54:19 PM#58
Originally posted by Bigdavo

This is nothing compared to the infamous Neverwinter Online's 'Caturday'.

Anyone else who was playing at the time will know what I'm talking about. The funny thing was, mass hysteria for a day, literally 2 days later it was like it never happened, I'm talking about massive exploit to gain cash shop currency.

Funny thing was, it was reported months in advance.

 

And that was when I left the game. Gamers are very forgiving for their favorite games. If I was playing ESO and had made a long term committment via subbing I would be trying to get a refund.  It is time enough companies stopped pulling this crap. I expect  ESO fans will simply suck it up and subscribe for another month however.  

  shawkandawe

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4/20/14 12:03:37 AM#59

sSome idiot does an Amazon review and we are supposed to take his word as gospel? Please there's no hireling dupe. 

And he edited his review a lot. Lists the edits on the bottom. He is just a hater.

  Bigdaddyx

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4/20/14 1:09:22 AM#60
Originally posted by ElRenmazuo
Havent experienced one bug yet, too busy having fun

Not even a single bug? i guess some people have all the luck.

I wonder how you escaped the slow loading screens when the entire mega server was having this issue along with delay in chats, mails etc.

 

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