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General Discussion  » ESO is M rated - but there are no kill moves

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  Rusque

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4/14/14 7:47:14 AM#41

I think it's the content that gave it the M rating, not the animations.

Other games with violent animations get M ratings for obvious reasons, but ESO is kind of brutal in content.

There are multiple instances in which you get to decide to kill or spare an NPC at the end of a quest chain. There's also the rampant skooma abuse, there are some high ass cats in this game.

 

Now, the ESRB is rere, but I can see the M given for thematic content.

  User Deleted
4/14/14 3:48:13 PM#42

I do think it's a little strange how it got an M rating.  Is there even blood in the game?  I honestly can't recall seeing any, although I could have just not been paying enough attention.

Compared to the stuff you can do in, say, SWtOR, this game is very light-weight on the moral scale.  I've yet to see instances where you can hack off a guys' head and show it to his wife, or proposition recent bombing victims for sex, or force your slave to join in on sex with a woman who just had you kill her husband...

Very strange.

  Thornrage

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Why kill them with kindness, when I can use an axe?

4/14/14 11:12:14 PM#43

I'm not seeing the M rating either.

I wish they would make use of it since it is there ... would love to see some AoC executes.

  Jyiiga

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4/14/14 11:18:34 PM#44

If you are not seeing the M rating then you are skipping all the conversations with NPCs.

- Minor Spoiler -

If you talk to Tharn after one of the main quest lines he says something along the lines of...

"I have a young lady to meet, need to go change out money. Those kind of woman do not work on credit."

Read between the lines.. Hes going to get a prostitute.

Beyond that the game has blood, killing, demons, drug use, all manner of talk about sex and sexuality.

  DMKano

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OP  4/14/14 11:24:04 PM#45
Originally posted by Jyiiga

If you are not seeing the M rating then you are skipping all the conversations with NPCs.

- Minor Spoiler -

If you talk to Tharn after one of the main quest lines he says something along the lines of...

"I have a young lady to meet, need to go change out money. Those kind of woman do not work on credit."

Read between the lines.. Hes going to get a prostitute.

Beyond that the game has blood, killing, demons, drug use, all manner of talk about sex and sexuality.

Again - all of this (except blood, and demons) is readily talked about on most TV "reality" shows on regular TV in US - and none of that is rated Mature.

Nothing is shown - having an NPC talk about going to see a virtual NPC hooker - that's not mature - that's PG13 - as NOTHING is shown. Talking about drugs - again PG13 - no actual drug use is shown.

The ESRB system is just absolute garbage.

 

  Jyiiga

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4/14/14 11:32:20 PM#46

Not that it matters at all at this point.

17+ is a guideline. Up to parents to make the call. It keeps a child from walking into a store and buying it (in most cases).

The intent is to leave the decision in the hand of the parent. As it should be.

I have listed what the rating states below and it is spot on. It has all this and oh... Your child may or may not be exposed people in the game that are insane, homophobic, racist and more!

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Release Date: April 4, 2014
M for Mature: Blood and Gore, Sexual Themes, Use of Alcohol, Violence, Includes online features that may expose players to unrated user-generated content
 
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  DMKano

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OP  4/14/14 11:39:25 PM#47
Originally posted by Jyiiga

Not that it matters at all at this point.

17+ is a guideline. Up to parents to make the call. It keeps a child from walking into a store and buying it (in most cases).

The intent is to leave the decision in the hand of the parent. As it should be.

I have listed what the rating states below and it is spot on. It has all this and oh... Your child may or may not be exposed people in the game that are insane, homophobic, racist and more!

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Release Date: April 4, 2014
M for Mature: Blood and Gore, Sexual Themes, Use of Alcohol, Violence, Includes online features that may expose players to unrated user-generated content
 
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I am not arguing the validity of what ESRB states and where ESO falls according to ESRB's made up rating system - so you are 100% correct.

*However*

I am arguing the validity of ESRB period.

Slapping M on ESO is absurd.

Slapping M on Halo was even more absurd (green alien blood and .. space guns?..)

Seriously having a 16 year old not being able to purchase HALO 3 - .... /speechless

 

  BeansnBread

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4/14/14 11:40:08 PM#48

Here is an article about it. Bethesda said that they didn't agree with the rating either.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/elder-scrolls-online-rated-m-for-sexual-innuendo-severed-heads-and-drinking-games/1100-6417994/

 

Here is what the ESRB said specifically in that article that was the reasoning behind their choice:

This is a multiplayer online role-playing game in which players assume the role of a warrior in the fantastical world of Nirn. As players explore open-world environments, they can perform various quests and complete tasks. Characters use swords, arrows, axes, and magic attacks (e.g., lightning, fire attacks) to kill human-like and fantastical enemies (e.g., orcs, demons, giant insects). Players engage in melee-style combat, hacking and slashing at various enemies; battles are highlighted by cries of pain, impact sounds, and blood splashes. Some sequences depict large amounts of blood streaming up-close as vampires attack/feed on characters. In some quests players have the ability to mount creatures' severed heads onto pikes; some environments depict corpse piles or skeletons hanging from torture devices. Text descriptions or dialogue sometimes contain references to sexual material and/or innuendo (e.g., “She...raped the men as cruelly as Bal had ravished her”; “In his mind, she would be the sheath to every knight's blade”; “No sweetmeat for you”; But it is huge! It could take me all night!”). During the course of the game, alcohol (i.e., wine, mead, ale) can be purchased and consumed by the central character; one sequence prompts players to engage in a drinking contest, resulting in the central character's blurred vision/slurred speech.

 

And it was summarized by them with:

 "Blood and Gore, Sexual Themes, Use of Alcohol, Violence."

 

Here are the three official ratings categories that could potentially be applied to the game:

   
esrb ratings symbol for e10 games EVERYONE 10+

Content is generally suitable for ages 10 and up. May contain more cartoon, fantasy or mild violence, mild language and/or minimal suggestive themes.

esrb ratings symbol for T-rated games TEEN

Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language.

esrb ratings symbol for m-rated games MATURE

Content is generally suitable for ages 17 and up. May contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language.

 

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  Wolfshead

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4/15/14 12:42:37 AM#49
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by MikeJezZ
DMKano this is not skyrim.

Being locked into an animation would suck in PvP

Never played AoC - have you?

Worked fine in PvP there.

Yes i have and honest the kill moves do not work that good in PvP while you look at you get attack from other player so yeah it work fine there NOT!!!

Kill moves is all good and fun like 5 first time but after look at them for more then few time the get really boring and see what happen to AoC it went from great game to a really bad F2P i still miss AoC it have good story's and great ingame music that no other mmorpg have come close to but after there 1st expansion the went all F2P when most of community did not want them to do the did anyway it is to bad for if AoC never went F2P i would most like still play it.

  Distopia

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4/15/14 12:51:48 AM#50
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Volgore
Originally posted by Ineveraskforthis

Look who is complaining again.

 

I should had knew it.

 

 

Oh, and how the hell did you reach VR4 in such a short period of time while spending so much in this god damn forum? Jez

It's not a Trion game, what did you expect?

You guys didn't read the whole thread - I am saying that Zenimax got shafted by ESRB.

This is a complaint for how much ESRB fails.

 

 

when I read your title, as well as the 1st post it seemed you were asking why they didn't have a kill cam.

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  ravencult

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4/15/14 1:56:00 AM#51
I have noticed that my flame staff sometimes makes the enemies burst in flames and turn to ashes afterwards.I don't know if thats counts as a ''fatality'' but looked impressive anyway.
  Incomparable

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4/15/14 2:10:46 AM#52
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

because of violence and some story components..

 

On top of that...killmoves is a bad idea, as in general they get you locked in an annimation, and thats not my idea of fun

death animation.

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  versulas

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4/15/14 2:34:06 AM#53
Originally posted by DMKano

Anyone wonder about this?

Why is the game M rated anyway?

Lvl 50 here VR4 - I am not seeing the reason for M rating yet.

-

The thing is ESO is really lacking on Mature content - IMO.

Sorry the thread derailed to stupid "finishers" lol - but seriously, violonce in ESO is not that bad. There's no real sexual themes. 

 

^ M - rating =P

 

What happens at the Ebony Flask, stays at the Ebony flask...

Seriously though. If the items on the table are typical bdsm fare for them, I think it's safe to say dark elves play hard.

  Andistotle

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4/15/14 2:50:38 AM#54
Originally posted by Wolfshead
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by MikeJezZ
DMKano this is not skyrim.

Being locked into an animation would suck in PvP

Never played AoC - have you?

Worked fine in PvP there.

Yes i have and honest the kill moves do not work that good in PvP while you look at you get attack from other player so yeah it work fine there NOT!!!

Kill moves is all good and fun like 5 first time but after look at them for more then few time the get really boring and see what happen to AoC it went from great game to a really bad F2P i still miss AoC it have good story's and great ingame music that no other mmorpg have come close to but after there 1st expansion the went all F2P when most of community did not want them to do the did anyway it is to bad for if AoC never went F2P i would most like still play it.

Guess you are a Pve player then. in pvp fatalities never gets old.  I still enjoy them, and I play AoC everyday. The fatalities have nothing to do with the current state of AoC, There are other facotors to blame for that. Anyways, I agree with OP that TESO is lacking similar features.

  Xasapis

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4/15/14 3:50:03 AM#55

So far I've seen absolutely no reason for the game to have an M rating. Perhaps I'm playing in the wrong faction (Ebonheart) and the other two have more mature or controversial stories.

 

Makes you wonder how arbitrary those rating standards are.

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