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  Mr.Kujo

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Joined: 5/23/12
Posts: 392

“Discussion is impossible with someone who claims not to seek the truth, but already to possess it.”

 
OP  4/14/14 4:43:52 PM#1

I guess most of you that subscribed to ESO newsletter already saw latest email from Zenimax. I will probably get stoned to death for making this thread, but I just couldn't resist.

Those quotes at the beginning.... just out of pure curiosity, where in the world did they get them from??

I mean, if you can call "Stunning" a quote :D This is so hilarious, I even tried to find stuff like "A perfect sauce of awesome" on MMORPG.com by searching in every recent article about the game, but it is just not there.

Is it just some random stuff taken from forums, written by plain people? Did they really picked few of single words and small sentences out of the ocean of complaints, critisizm, and praise? I thought this stuff is always taken out of critic reviews, but I checked some of the english sites (yes, they even translated quotes to english from german sites :D) and there is nothing like this. Did they just made it up?

I'm just curious, is it completely random, and pathetic marketing, or is there a single quote actually taken from somewere? I don't want to bad mouth the game, as you see I said nothing bad about it, just that single mail made me laugh.

"AMAZING - mmorpg.com" :D Yea, that word probably came out at one point or another :D

  User Deleted
4/14/14 6:36:56 PM#2

It's in MMORPG.com's advertising contract to call every game "amazing" at least once a week, I'm sure...

If I want honest opinions, I never go to this site's formal reviews and commentary.  They have no credibility anymore.

  zakiyawow

Novice Member

Joined: 2/28/10
Posts: 631

4/14/14 6:38:21 PM#3

I got the same email and was as curious as you. I did some digging on google. Most of them were said as a matter of fact. They are just not said after the game released. They were said...mostly in 2013 way before game was published. Those are quotes from short previews.

  Volgore

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4/14/14 6:50:35 PM#4
Originally posted by Mr.Kujo

I guess most of you that subscribed to ESO newsletter already saw latest email from Zenimax. I will probably get stoned to death for making this thread, but I just couldn't resist.

Those quotes at the beginning.... just out of pure curiosity, where in the world did they get them from??

I mean, if you can call "Stunning" a quote :D This is so hilarious, I even tried to find stuff like "A perfect sauce of awesome" on MMORPG.com by searching in every recent article about the game, but it is just not there.

Is it just some random stuff taken from forums, written by plain people? Did they really picked few of single words and small sentences out of the ocean of complaints, critisizm, and praise? I thought this stuff is always taken out of critic reviews, but I checked some of the english sites (yes, they even translated quotes to english from german sites :D) and there is nothing like this. Did they just made it up?

I'm just curious, is it completely random, and pathetic marketing, or is there a single quote actually taken from somewere? I don't want to bad mouth the game, as you see I said nothing bad about it, just that single mail made me laugh.

"AMAZING - mmorpg.com" :D Yea, that word probably came out at one point or another :D

AMAZING - mmorpg.com

That is the verdict of the review ESO will get on this site by ad-contract, Zenimax was just to quick to already spoil it. Everyone who has not gotten the mail will have to wait two weeks to read it here.

  User Deleted
4/14/14 7:18:17 PM#5

Just out of curiosity, I decided to look these up myself.  Here are the "reviews" mentioned in that email, followed by the source.

 

"Truly lives up to the hype" -Just Push Start

So this one is apparently from an impression that dates back to E3 2013, but probably chosen to make it look like a post-release opinion.

 

"The next true great MMO" -mpogd.com

Comically, this one is from 2012, written after a very early preview where he got to spend most of the time talking with the Dev's, and only a little playing the game.  Again, from 2012.

 

"The Skyrim sequel we want" -IGN

A much more recent review of the game during beta, right after the 1st person view was introduced back in August 2013 or so.

 

"ESO seems to be worth every cent!" -spieletipps.de

This appears to be a basic opinion piece with practically no actual information.  I honestly have no idea when it was written, but judging by one of the game "facts" mentioning it will be released in 2013, it's safe to assume it dates to 2012-2013.  This is one of the more comical "reviews" taken for the email, and probably was included only to check off a box involving the subscription fee.

 

"Amazing" -MMORPG.COM

I honestly have no clue where this one comes from, and it's so generic that I didn't even bother trying to research it.  Best part is it was given the honor of having the largest font size, lol.

 

"100% amazing" -ZAM

This isn't even from an article, but it's the headline of a post that shows the CGI trailer.  It has a real "60% of the time it works every time" vibe to it, haha.

 

"Stunning" -Computer Bild Spiele

This is another that I have no clue what the source is, beyond the site.  It's simply too vague and generic to be of any use.

 

"A perfect sauce of awesome" -MMORPG.COM

This dates back to October 2012, and seems to be based on some early gameplay footage shown to some people back then.  The actual context of the comment is in how well it appears to combine Skyrim's solo experience with MMO elements.

 

"What RPG-fans have been waiting for" -stern.de

I believe this is the only actual "rave" in the email that's based on the game in its release form, since it was published on the actual release day.  The publication, stern.de, seems to be a general news publication as well, so the review would probably be about as relevant as a USAToday review of the game.  Still, this one is tons better than than the vague and outdated crap found above.

 

So there you are.  I had 20 minutes to kill, and kill them I did.  You're welcome.

  pappacube

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/08/10
Posts: 91

4/14/14 7:22:02 PM#6
First thing folks should be aware of is a ton of players are "raving" about losing all their purchased bank slots along with any loot that was stored in them.  Many folks have even lost skill points.  Many folks are stuck at different points in their main quest line and can't progress further.    So yea we are raving for sure....
  Kothoses

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/08/10
Posts: 692

4/14/14 7:30:51 PM#7
Originally posted by Mr.Kujo

I guess most of you that subscribed to ESO newsletter already saw latest email from Zenimax. I will probably get stoned to death for making this thread, but I just couldn't resist.

Those quotes at the beginning.... just out of pure curiosity, where in the world did they get them from??

I mean, if you can call "Stunning" a quote :D This is so hilarious, I even tried to find stuff like "A perfect sauce of awesome" on MMORPG.com by searching in every recent article about the game, but it is just not there.

Is it just some random stuff taken from forums, written by plain people? Did they really picked few of single words and small sentences out of the ocean of complaints, critisizm, and praise? I thought this stuff is always taken out of critic reviews, but I checked some of the english sites (yes, they even translated quotes to english from german sites :D) and there is nothing like this. Did they just made it up?

I'm just curious, is it completely random, and pathetic marketing, or is there a single quote actually taken from somewere? I don't want to bad mouth the game, as you see I said nothing bad about it, just that single mail made me laugh.

"AMAZING - mmorpg.com" :D Yea, that word probably came out at one point or another :D

 

Because no one ever does this in reviews.  Movies, TV shows, Games Books ect have been doing this for years 

 

Here is the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_quoting_out_of_context

 

It happens all the time, Movies do it on billboards, there have been several attempts to make the use of partial quotes in marketing illegal but so far it has not really come to pass.   However in order to attribute that quote, it must have been written by some one on an official article.  Otherwise it delves into false advertising and I highly doubt they would want to get into that particular batch of hot water.

Sure crucify them if you want, but not for having a marketing team.

Promoting thought a new Gaming video blog http://www.youtube.com/user/quinnthalas discussing games, gamers and the internet with gameplay footage as background.

  MsPtibiscuit

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Joined: 2/24/14
Posts: 163

4/14/14 7:34:27 PM#8
Originally posted by asmkm22

Just out of curiosity, I decided to look these up myself.  Here are the "reviews" mentioned in that email, followed by the source.

 

"Truly lives up to the hype" -Just Push Start

So this one is apparently from an impression that dates back to E3 2013, but probably chosen to make it look like a post-release opinion.

 

"The next true great MMO" -mpogd.com

Comically, this one is from 2012, written after a very early preview where he got to spend most of the time talking with the Dev's, and only a little playing the game.  Again, from 2012.

 

"The Skyrim sequel we want" -IGN

A much more recent review of the game during beta, right after the 1st person view was introduced back in August 2013 or so.

 

"ESO seems to be worth every cent!" -spieletipps.de

This appears to be a basic opinion piece with practically no actual information.  I honestly have no idea when it was written, but judging by one of the game "facts" mentioning it will be released in 2013, it's safe to assume it dates to 2012-2013.  This is one of the more comical "reviews" taken for the email, and probably was included only to check off a box involving the subscription fee.

 

"Amazing" -MMORPG.COM

I honestly have no clue where this one comes from, and it's so generic that I didn't even bother trying to research it.  Best part is it was given the honor of having the largest font size, lol.

 

"100% amazing" -ZAM

This isn't even from an article, but it's the headline of a post that shows the CGI trailer.  It has a real "60% of the time it works every time" vibe to it, haha.

 

"Stunning" -Computer Bild Spiele

This is another that I have no clue what the source is, beyond the site.  It's simply too vague and generic to be of any use.

 

"A perfect sauce of awesome" -MMORPG.COM

This dates back to October 2012, and seems to be based on some early gameplay footage shown to some people back then.  The actual context of the comment is in how well it appears to combine Skyrim's solo experience with MMO elements.

 

"What RPG-fans have been waiting for" -stern.de

I believe this is the only actual "rave" in the email that's based on the game in its release form, since it was published on the actual release day.  The publication, stern.de, seems to be a general news publication as well, so the review would probably be about as relevant as a USAToday review of the game.  Still, this one is tons better than than the vague and outdated crap found above.

 

So there you are.  I had 20 minutes to kill, and kill them I did.  You're welcome.

You did god's work there. Good job

  Dakeru

Elite Member

Joined: 9/21/09
Posts: 1076

4/14/14 7:38:12 PM#9
Originally posted by asmkm22

 

So there you are.  I had 20 minutes to kill, and kill them I did.  You're welcome.

You have my gratitude. Eso and their hyping combined with gamebreaking bugs is my daily dose of amusement on this forum.

And these fake quotes are the funniest thing since "We don't have a cash shop - we have a shop for extended service!"

  Aroukos

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/13/13
Posts: 584

4/14/14 7:40:15 PM#10
Originally posted by asmkm22

Just out of curiosity, I decided to look these up myself.  Here are the "reviews" mentioned in that email, followed by the source.

 

"Truly lives up to the hype" -Just Push Start

So this one is apparently from an impression that dates back to E3 2013, but probably chosen to make it look like a post-release opinion.

 

"The next true great MMO" -mpogd.com

Comically, this one is from 2012, written after a very early preview where he got to spend most of the time talking with the Dev's, and only a little playing the game.  Again, from 2012.

 

"The Skyrim sequel we want" -IGN

A much more recent review of the game during beta, right after the 1st person view was introduced back in August 2013 or so.

 

"ESO seems to be worth every cent!" -spieletipps.de

This appears to be a basic opinion piece with practically no actual information.  I honestly have no idea when it was written, but judging by one of the game "facts" mentioning it will be released in 2013, it's safe to assume it dates to 2012-2013.  This is one of the more comical "reviews" taken for the email, and probably was included only to check off a box involving the subscription fee.

 

"Amazing" -MMORPG.COM

I honestly have no clue where this one comes from, and it's so generic that I didn't even bother trying to research it.  Best part is it was given the honor of having the largest font size, lol.

 

"100% amazing" -ZAM

This isn't even from an article, but it's the headline of a post that shows the CGI trailer.  It has a real "60% of the time it works every time" vibe to it, haha.

 

"Stunning" -Computer Bild Spiele

This is another that I have no clue what the source is, beyond the site.  It's simply too vague and generic to be of any use.

 

"A perfect sauce of awesome" -MMORPG.COM

This dates back to October 2012, and seems to be based on some early gameplay footage shown to some people back then.  The actual context of the comment is in how well it appears to combine Skyrim's solo experience with MMO elements.

 

"What RPG-fans have been waiting for" -stern.de

I believe this is the only actual "rave" in the email that's based on the game in its release form, since it was published on the actual release day.  The publication, stern.de, seems to be a general news publication as well, so the review would probably be about as relevant as a USAToday review of the game.  Still, this one is tons better than than the vague and outdated crap found above.

 

So there you are.  I had 20 minutes to kill, and kill them I did.  You're welcome.

 

This really sucks big time! I ll send it to all my friends.

  Zorgo

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Joined: 12/05/05
Posts: 2267

Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising?

4/14/14 7:53:40 PM#11

Is this really your first lesson on the manipulation of advertising?

I know you may find this amazing, but scratching the surface of any ad for any product and you will find a dark soul beneath it. 

Should it be that way? No.

Is it that way? Yes.

Buyer beware.

Never put faith in advertising.

And stop being shocked that they hired advertisers who would use words which would help boost sales.

  Alalala

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Joined: 8/03/06
Posts: 303

4/14/14 8:00:22 PM#12

What my friends are 'raving' about is more like 'raving' mad.

Trainers, speed hacks, mining bots, and other cheats.

Lost items, lost skill points.

Total lack of immersion through the quest instance overlaps.  Lack of AH more and more a bad design decision.

Biggest talking point is what am I getting for the subscription, really?

  dotdotdash

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Joined: 6/01/11
Posts: 361

4/14/14 8:17:21 PM#13

I find your use of the word "everyone" pejorative.

  ohioastro

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Joined: 4/07/14
Posts: 394

4/14/14 8:27:33 PM#14
Are people seriously complaining that a game company chooses favorable quotes for a newsletter?
  User Deleted
4/14/14 8:31:52 PM#15
Originally posted by ohioastro
Are people seriously complaining that a game company chooses favorable quotes for a newsletter?

No.  We're just amused at the all-too-common use of quotes out of context for game advertisements.  No one is actually complaining though.

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4/14/14 8:37:16 PM#16
Originally posted by ohioastro
Are people seriously complaining that a game company chooses favorable quotes for a newsletter?

I don't really see any complaining. It's mostly laughing at how ridiculous the sources are. People market their product all the time while taking things out of context to make their product seem more accepted than it really is. But these are so obscure, as pointed out by asmkm22, that it's difficult to not just shake your head at their shameless attempt. Most of the time, people at least use recent quotes to pull from and try and use more than one word. When they don't, it looks silly and cheap.

 

I think it's just another example of how poor their marketing department is. I feel bad for the developers that deserve better than stuff like this or the whole host of other terrible marketing this game has exhibited.

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4/14/14 10:48:36 PM#17
Originally posted by Yoda_Clone

It's in MMORPG.com's advertising contract to call every game "amazing" at least once a week, I'm sure...

If I want honest opinions, I never go to this site's formal reviews and commentary.  They have no credibility anymore.

I agree. In fact, if there is a game on this site being trashed it is usually a good game and that is the one to buy.

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4/15/14 12:57:20 AM#18
Originally posted by Mr.Kujo

Is it just some random stuff taken from forums, written by plain people? Did they really picked few of single words and small sentences out of the ocean of complaints, critisizm, and praise?

Yes and yes.  Honestly, for how many "this game rocks" posts that are made here, with the OP never returning on some of them, I wouldn't be surprised if they were paid plant posts.  No doubt, ESO has it's fans (and it should)... but it is a stretch to say everyone is raving.  I, for one, couldn't care less.  And I'd bet there's at least 1,000 (def more, but trying to not be so ugh about it) people that share the mindset that ESO isn't the end all be all.  But if you enjoy ESO, well done you. 

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4/15/14 1:40:45 AM#19
I could accept a crop of praise quotes in a recent newsletter from recent articles or reviews about the game as par for the course but digging up stuff from 2012 , long before the game launched, to hype it now paints a dishonest picture of actual quality.  It's bad form all the way around.
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4/15/14 1:48:36 AM#20
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