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  Sovrath

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4/14/14 3:27:34 PM#41

I can't say I agree with everything but the one thing I whole heartedly agree with is that they have quest objectives that are shared by numerous people in the same space.

So if you need to kill a min- boss then "good luck" as you might have to wait. Heck, several times I arrived as the boss was going down only to get the "kill" even though I never did anything. I'd always wait around for the respawn just to do it.

I do think the quests are better than he says. As an example, last night I did a quest called "the witch of Silitar" and I really wanted it to be more of a full fledged quest as I found it very interesting. It is part of a quest chain but it was very well done for an mmo quest.

  rodingo

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4/14/14 3:33:46 PM#42
Originally posted by Rusque
Originally posted by gonewild
Originally posted by Volgore
In before "review is irrelevant" and "author is a hater".

Looks like  this game has more haters than allies then.

What does this tell you ah?

ESO does have an abnormal amount of hating going on. I've been around a long time and I don't recall seeing this level of hate.

You must have totally glossed over GW2 forums during it's launch, and subsequent year after that, then.

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  Rusque

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4/14/14 3:36:07 PM#43
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by Rusque
Originally posted by gonewild
Originally posted by Volgore
In before "review is irrelevant" and "author is a hater".

Looks like  this game has more haters than allies then.

What does this tell you ah?

ESO does have an abnormal amount of hating going on. I've been around a long time and I don't recall seeing this level of hate.

How quickly we forget SWTOR, Conan, WAR, et al....

No, I was specifically looking back at some of the rougher games like SWTOR and Conan. SWTOR had quite a bit of a lovefest going on, it wasn't until the game just fell flat that it became acceptable to hate on it, up to that point it was pretty well received. ESO has had an exceptional amount of hate since beta.

Conan also had people fawning over it, and despite being one of the buggiest, laggiest horrid launches, people STILL loved it . . . right up until they left Tortage. Then it became one of the most hated games ever, but that's less because people were haters and more because funcom forgot to finish the game.

WAR was a lovefest and it died a slow death. People were so hyped for this game, I remember it as one of the first proclaimed "WoW-killers", actually, it was the first wasn't it? That's when people started saying WoW-Killer. Turned out not so much to be what people had hoped, but it was definitely not a hatefest.

 

If any game had as many haters, I'd say it was TSW. That game did get a lot of hate, primarly because of the clunky combat.

  Kaneth

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4/14/14 3:43:08 PM#44
Originally posted by rodingo
Originally posted by Rusque
Originally posted by gonewild
Originally posted by Volgore
In before "review is irrelevant" and "author is a hater".

Looks like  this game has more haters than allies then.

What does this tell you ah?

ESO does have an abnormal amount of hating going on. I've been around a long time and I don't recall seeing this level of hate.

You must have totally glossed over GW2 forums during it's launch, and subsequent year after that, then.

Not to mention the years upon years of WoW hate that still boils up from time to time.

  Mothanos

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4/14/14 3:46:51 PM#45


Glad i am having fun at least, been awhile since i soacked up so much immersion from an mmo.
How long it will last is remain to be seen, but so far i can honestly say that this mmo just gives me that flavor i wanted.

Does ESO has bad things or could have done things better ? hell yes...

Animations / Combat
Bugged Quests / Bad Phasing
Lack of Pet Control / there is none
Better keybinds like "Shift"

But the fun comes from story telling, getting sucked into a story while questing hasnt happened to me for a loooooong time.

And pvp ? i love every single minute of it.
All sorts of pvp going on.

have fun peeps :P

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  CoffeeBreak

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4/14/14 3:51:14 PM#46
Originally posted by Aroukos

I guess everybody is a hater. Both critics and users...

 

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-online

 

One might think many of the User Reviewers on Metacritic don't realize there are numbers other than 0 and 10.  It's hard to put much stock in a overall score based on "reviewers" that score at random.  

 

"Not the best game in the world but I like it..."  10

"Not bad, but really not my thing."  0

 

 

 

  jacktors

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Posts: 130

4/14/14 4:03:26 PM#47

I have been playing ESO since the 5 day early access.  I also participated in 4 or 5 beta sessions.  I really like the game, and I am having a lot of fun. But I have to agree with many of the PC Gamer reviewer's criticisms.  

For one, the reviewer is correct in saying that the buildings and houses in towns across the game are very repetitive. It would have been nice to have more unique layouts, with better, more unique loot.  It seems like I loot the same crap in every single building. 

The public dungeons are extremely linear and boring. There is rarely any loot to grab.  It drives me crazy to come up to an armor rack or chest in a dungeon, and not be able to loot it.  They might as well just delete it from the game.  

I really hope that Bethesda adds much more content to the game, because I would really like this game to have a very long and successful life.  PVP alone, will not keep the majority of people subscribing every month.  

They need to add housing as a priority.  And not that instance crap like in Rift.  They need to do it the same way as Dark Age of Camelot did, with neighborhoods.  

They need to add a lot more environmental loot in the game.  In my opinion, if it cannot be lootable, it shouldn't be in the landscape.  MMORPG gamers love to loot stuff. We can all agree on that. 

They need to keep expanding the map with unique lands, not more of the same.  Lets see a continent overrun by Werewolves or vampires.  Keep the content coming. 

They MUST add the Darkness Falls style PvP dungeon.  That content can put them over the top.  It certainly did for Dark age of Camelot. 

I hope that Zenimax does not just sit on their asses, and assume that  those who are playing the game happily right now, will continue to subscribe.  This same thing happened in Guild Wars 2.  When the game first came out, people buzzed on and on about the game. But when people ran out of content, they quit the game. Now Arenanet is talking expansion.   Ever expanding, engaging content is the only way to keep mmorpgs afloat.  

  Soki123

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4/14/14 4:05:28 PM#48
The reviewer is  generous IMO.
  DMKano

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4/14/14 4:08:38 PM#49

In its current state (I'm lvl 50 VR4 now) - the game is somewhere around 65/100 to 70/100 so this review falls within the range that I agree with personally.

The good thing about MMOs is that over time they are often improved, so Zenimax has their work cut out for them.

 

 

  ohioastro

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4/14/14 4:11:35 PM#50

What's fascinating to me is that professional reviews have become utterly uncorrelated with how I react to games.  AAA single player games get uniformly strong reviews, whether the players love or hate the games.  Indy games tend to get harsh reviews, especially if they're challenging at all.  MMOs tend to get reviews all over the place.

So I saw glowing reviews for Dragon Age 2 and Civ 5; in both cases I found them to be huge steps backwards relative to their predecessors.  You could beat the release version of Civ 5 on deity with 4 horses and the AI had no idea at all about tactics.  Total War Rome 2 got strong reviews despite crippling bugs (I waited; it's better now).  If you want a credibility hit for PC Gamer, look at their TW Rome 2 review - which didn't even mention that the AI *could not siege player cities at all on release.*  As in, their units could not carry ladders to walls and climb them.  This is a non-trivial drawback for a game focused on, you guessed it, conquest and sieges.  SimCity(!)  had the critics liking it and users hating it -  I didn't bother.  On the other side, I liked Europa Universalis 4 (and so did the reviewers), and Bioshock Infinite was a fun, if short, ride; and both users and reviewers really liked Skyrim and Fallout New Vegas (again, modulo bugs in the latter.)  Reviewers hated the difficulty of the Witcher 2, Might & Magic X, Eador, Don't Starve.  I liked all of them.

 

So, forgive me if people looking for Skyrim 2.0 didn't find it.  And forgive me if I attach little or no weight to pro reviews (whether good or bad.)

  Aroukos

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Joined: 6/13/13
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4/14/14 4:11:45 PM#51
Originally posted by Mothanos


Glad i am having fun at least, been awhile since i soacked up so much immersion from an mmo.
How long it will last is remain to be seen, but so far i can honestly say that this mmo just gives me that flavor i wanted.

Does ESO has bad things or could have done things better ? hell yes...

Animations / Combat
Bugged Quests / Bad Phasing
Lack of Pet Control / there is none
Better keybinds like "Shift"

But the fun comes from story telling, getting sucked into a story while questing hasnt happened to me for a loooooong time.

And pvp ? i love every single minute of it.
All sorts of pvp going on.

have fun peeps :P

 

 

I dont like ESO and i dont like it not as a whole game, but when it comes to things like combat, animations, character movement & phasing. These things are the main reason i cant play it, considering i m no lore lover either.

On the other hand you find bad things in ESO but you still have fun. Now thats something i accept and respect. I respect it because its not a fanboys statement, like " i havent experience ANY problem" or " combat and animations are the best ever" or in general "everything seems superb" and everyone who opposes to this is a troll.

I respect you and your opinion because its by someone who is HAVING FUN, without feeling the need to defend anything. Without the need of bypassing and hiding the flaws. Its not a shame to admit that what gives you fun isnt perfect, but still you enjoy it.  So yes this is something i can only respect.

  ohioastro

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4/14/14 4:14:19 PM#52
Originally posted by CoffeeBreak
Originally posted by Aroukos

I guess everybody is a hater. Both critics and users...

 

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-online

 

One might think many of the User Reviewers on Metacritic don't realize there are numbers other than 0 and 10.  It's hard to put much stock in a overall score based on "reviewers" that score at random.  

 

"Not the best game in the world but I like it..."  10

"Not bad, but really not my thing."  0

 

 

 

Or "cash grab" "not worth a subscription fee" (e.g things that you could say without even playing the game) "no open world exploration" "quests just like WoW" (e.g. things that make it clear that you didn't even play the game).

  kakasaki

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4/14/14 4:29:28 PM#53
Originally posted by Volgore

Ok, i do not agree to all the points being raised as negatives in the review and i also think that the author missed some of the strong points of the game.

I do however wonder why he also missed some of the blatant flaws that game has at this point and think with 68/100 it got away generously.

6/10 on my scale, with a tendecy to go further down if you also want to bring up the "how much actual Elder Scrolls does Zenimax deliver with ESO?" subject.

Agreed. I would be more generous with 7 or 8 out of 10. What annoys me the most so far is the bugs, the horrible guild shop interface (really, can't search item by name!) and the vast amount of gold seller spam on general chat. I just play with guild or group chat on to avoid the endless spam...

 

(edit) One of the poster above brought up another gripe dear to my heart: the group dungeons. So underwhelming they choose to go with such a linear design. The group might as well be on a treadmill...

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  Volgore

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4/14/14 4:32:10 PM#54
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by Volgore

Ok, i do not agree to all the points being raised as negatives in the review and i also think that the author missed some of the strong points of the game.

I do however wonder why he also missed some of the blatant flaws that game has at this point and think with 68/100 it got away generously.

6/10 on my scale, with a tendecy to go further down if you also want to bring up the "how much actual Elder Scrolls does Zenimax deliver with ESO?" subject.

Agreed. I would be more generous with 7 or 8 out of 10. What annoys me the most so far is the bugs, the horrible guild shop interface (really, can't search item by name!) and the vast amount of gold seller spam on general chat. I just play with guild or group chat on to avoid the endless spam...

Your nick reminds me of my motorbike and i don't know why.

  kakasaki

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4/14/14 4:37:16 PM#55
Originally posted by Volgore
Originally posted by kakasaki
Originally posted by Volgore

Ok, i do not agree to all the points being raised as negatives in the review and i also think that the author missed some of the strong points of the game.

I do however wonder why he also missed some of the blatant flaws that game has at this point and think with 68/100 it got away generously.

6/10 on my scale, with a tendecy to go further down if you also want to bring up the "how much actual Elder Scrolls does Zenimax deliver with ESO?" subject.

Agreed. I would be more generous with 7 or 8 out of 10. What annoys me the most so far is the bugs, the horrible guild shop interface (really, can't search item by name!) and the vast amount of gold seller spam on general chat. I just play with guild or group chat on to avoid the endless spam...

Your nick reminds me of my motorbike and i don't know why.

Not kawasaki. 

Picked at random by my friends in the good old days of GEnie and Compuserve. Just shows what a fossil I am...

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  summitus

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4/14/14 4:40:30 PM#56
Hmmm average review eh ? .... but no matter , its coming from a very mediocre and below average website , I really like ESO but I don't think its the second coming or anything. But this guy is sooo way of the mark its kind of laughable . I'm not generally cynical , but maybe Zenimax didn't pay them enough money , who knows ...
  Volgore

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4/14/14 4:52:49 PM#57
Originally posted by summitus
Hmmm average review eh ? .... but no matter , its coming from a very mediocre and below average website , I really like ESO but I don't think its the second coming or anything. But this guy is sooo way of the mark its kind of laughable . I'm not generally cynical , but maybe Zenimax didn't pay them enough money , who knows ...

No worries, people will get their highscore, hard pros+soft cons "review" in time...just keep an eye on the mainpage of this website.

  Acidon

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4/14/14 5:00:47 PM#58
Originally posted by Rusque
Originally posted by gonewild
Originally posted by Volgore
In before "review is irrelevant" and "author is a hater".

Looks like  this game has more haters than allies then.

What does this tell you ah?

ESO does have an abnormal amount of hating going on. I've been around a long time and I don't recall seeing this level of hate.

 

That's because there doesn't appear to be the same zeal for containment from the powers that be that existed for GW2.

 

I know from personal experience that the fans were so rabid that any negative post was reported enough to warrant a ban.  I wasn't being nasty, just telling it like it was.  First bans in all my years here and since.  It was truly insane.

But any ignorant first-post can spread horrible misinformation about ESO, as well as general vitriol from our wonderful community here.  Go figure.

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  SalmonMan

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Joined: 1/06/10
Posts: 75

4/14/14 5:04:02 PM#59
Only 68? He must be one of the 10 million, or was it 20 million (?), that won't keep subbing/playing, huh?
  summitus

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Joined: 3/31/05
Posts: 1475

4/14/14 5:05:28 PM#60
Originally posted by Volgore
Originally posted by summitus
Hmmm average review eh ? .... but no matter , its coming from a very mediocre and below average website , I really like ESO but I don't think its the second coming or anything. But this guy is sooo way of the mark its kind of laughable . I'm not generally cynical , but maybe Zenimax didn't pay them enough money , who knows ...

No worries, people will get their highscore, hard pros+soft cons "review" in time...just keep an eye on the mainpage of this website.

Tbh , I have no problem with average reviews if they are well thought out and written with at least a little objectivity , but after reading this guys full review , I cant help feeling that he has a bit of an agenda against this game , I might be wrong ..  I personally like ESO and as I said its not perfect but I believe it deserves a little more respect than this guy gave it ...

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