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  amber-r

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3/31/14 7:47:39 AM#41
Originally posted by IfrianMMO

The first mmo developed for consoles?

Phantasy Star Online was on the Dreamcast, Gamecube and Xbox around 1999/2000 and up to 2006 and was one of the best online experiences money could afford at that point on any given consoles, and in general.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNIkmPi6VQ

 

PSO wasn't really an mmo.

 

 

  IfrianMMO

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3/31/14 7:51:38 AM#42
Originally posted by amber-r
Originally posted by IfrianMMO

The first mmo developed for consoles?

Phantasy Star Online was on the Dreamcast, Gamecube and Xbox around 1999/2000 and up to 2006 and was one of the best online experiences money could afford at that point on any given consoles, and in general.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNIkmPi6VQ

 

PSO wasn't really an mmo.

 

 

Yes, yes it was.

Massive= Check

Multi player= check

Online = Check

Role Playing Game = Check

And it is considered so by pretty much every gaming site or online encyclopedia.

 

  zevni78

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3/31/14 7:57:03 AM#43

Those thinking it will go f2p in a few months are missing that all those mmos that had to reluctantly convert to f2p within 2 yrs, such as AoC, SWTOR, Rift, etc all had flaws that prevented a stable player base contributing enough subs as EVE does.  I went into in an earlier vid, but apart from Zenimax's incompetent marketing department, the game itself has no major flaw, just lots of little ones, that amount to deal breaking for many of the more dedicated TESO fans, but may not be enough to significantly  lower the broader player numbers come sub renewal time. They have enough content, they have non tedious combat, they have the pvp, and some nice endgame planned. They are not making the same mistakes Bioware made with SWTOR, they are making different ones, and we have no where near enough data to make confident predictions of failure.

 

Oh, and its the first AAA western fantasy mmoRPG to come out on consoles, so everyone is partly right. (no I don't count EQOA)

  Moar61

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3/31/14 7:57:55 AM#44

I won't force the game on anyone else, and it's always good to remain skeptical at some level.

 

But so far, I have had lots and lots of fun with this game. Totally sucked into the world. Will it go f2p down the road? I dunno. I will simply continue to play until I no longer have any fun. 

  darker70

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3/31/14 7:59:08 AM#45

OP

I'm very tempted I was holding out for Archeage but after trying the Russian Beta the combat is so generic compared to ESO,one fact Archeage is the next big thing because most people like that tab combat which bores the crap out of me but ESO will gain that niche crowd who want something different AA is for the mass market sheeple.

Some of the stuff in AA is so unique but that does not make up for the combat which to me is lacking any of the ESO dodge roll,block counter moves which puts ESO way ahead on combat now if we had ESO combat In AA that would be Mo Heaven and my only hope of a true fantasy Mo after ESO now falls to Black Desert but that is yonks away so I think ESO will keep me happy for quite some time to come if I do buy it that is.

 

  Kaputzy

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3/31/14 8:02:52 AM#46
Originally posted by jesad

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! That was AWESOME!!  You guys crack me up!!!  No, seriously, I'm crying over here!  Plus I spit my coffee all over the screen! 

Of COURSE you're answer to why you are still waiting would be that you could play it for free in a few months!  I don't know why I didn't think of that.  I'm soooooo stupid LOL.

You guys rule.  I'm not kidding.  You slay me.   Whew!.......I gotta get a hold of myself after that.  Snot running all over the place from laughing so hard and whatnot.

So yeah......

 

 

The question is, why aren't you playing the game instead of posting on this board?

 

Can't be that good hey?

 

I'll pass like the rest, but thanks for the info.

  Bigdaddyx

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Posts: 1561

3/31/14 8:06:12 AM#47
Originally posted by darker70

OP

I'm very tempted I was holding out for Archeage but after trying the Russian Beta the combat is so generic compared to ESO,one fact Archeage is the next big thing because most people like that tab combat which bores the crap out of me but ESO will gain that niche crowd who want something different AA is for the mass market sheeple.

Some of the stuff in AA is so unique but that does not make up for the combat which to me is lacking any of the ESO dodge roll,block counter moves which puts ESO way ahead on combat now if we had ESO combat In AA that would be Mo Heaven and my only hope of a true fantasy Mo after ESO now falls to Black Desert but that is yonks away so I think ESO will keep me happy for quite some time to come if I do buy it that is.

 

What about Repopulation combat? i am asking because you seem to be backer for kickstarter.

I honestly don't care for combat. For me features and content is the king. A good combat alone can not carry a MMO for example Tera.

If you are passing on AA just for combat its your loss then because AA has amazing amount of features. 

  zevian

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3/31/14 8:06:43 AM#48
Ill grab it when its 30 ish bucks, and the bugs have bee ironed out, and the people who want to grief have moved on.
  Aulliwyn

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3/31/14 8:13:26 AM#49
You're not counting EQOA?!! BLASPHEMER!!


  darker70

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3/31/14 8:19:55 AM#50
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by darker70

OP

I'm very tempted I was holding out for Archeage but after trying the Russian Beta the combat is so generic compared to ESO,one fact Archeage is the next big thing because most people like that tab combat which bores the crap out of me but ESO will gain that niche crowd who want something different AA is for the mass market sheeple.

Some of the stuff in AA is so unique but that does not make up for the combat which to me is lacking any of the ESO dodge roll,block counter moves which puts ESO way ahead on combat now if we had ESO combat In AA that would be Mo Heaven and my only hope of a true fantasy Mo after ESO now falls to Black Desert but that is yonks away so I think ESO will keep me happy for quite some time to come if I do buy it that is.

 

What about Repopulation combat? i am asking because you seem to be backer for kickstarter.

I honestly don't care for combat. For me features and content is the king. A good combat alone can not carry a MMO for example Tera.

If you are passing on AA just for combat its your loss then because AA has amazing amount of features. 

Regarding Repop that is Sci-Fi,so did not mention it and as I Kickstarted it over 2 years ago have been with AB Tech from near day one if you go to the forums search my name check my handle colour and say no more there you go.

And yes AA has an amazing extra amount of features but the main focus is leveling a toon and if that is through generic button mashing and combat that to me has not progressed from the basic formula from the dreaded W word,then no thanks I'd rather have less features but a more enjoyable play experience than all the bells and whistles thanks very much.

  Bigdaddyx

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Joined: 5/24/10
Posts: 1561

3/31/14 8:28:14 AM#51
Originally posted by darker70
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by darker70

OP

I'm very tempted I was holding out for Archeage but after trying the Russian Beta the combat is so generic compared to ESO,one fact Archeage is the next big thing because most people like that tab combat which bores the crap out of me but ESO will gain that niche crowd who want something different AA is for the mass market sheeple.

Some of the stuff in AA is so unique but that does not make up for the combat which to me is lacking any of the ESO dodge roll,block counter moves which puts ESO way ahead on combat now if we had ESO combat In AA that would be Mo Heaven and my only hope of a true fantasy Mo after ESO now falls to Black Desert but that is yonks away so I think ESO will keep me happy for quite some time to come if I do buy it that is.

 

What about Repopulation combat? i am asking because you seem to be backer for kickstarter.

I honestly don't care for combat. For me features and content is the king. A good combat alone can not carry a MMO for example Tera.

If you are passing on AA just for combat its your loss then because AA has amazing amount of features. 

Regarding Repop that is Sci-Fi,so did not mention it and as I Kickstarted it over 2 years ago have been with AB Tech from near day one if you go to the forums search my name check my handle colour and say no more there you go.

And yes AA has an amazing extra amount of features but the main focus is leveling a toon and if that is through generic button mashing and combat that to me has not progressed from the basic formula from the dreaded W word,then no thanks I'd rather have less features but a more enjoyable play experience than all the bells and whistles thanks very much.

I just wanted to know if Repopulation combat is similar to ESO or AA. ;)

  Lugors

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Joined: 10/06/12
Posts: 174

3/31/14 8:32:15 AM#52
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by Sajman01
Because I can wait 3 months then play it for free.


Originally posted by delete5230

Originally posted by jesad

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! That was AWESOME!!  You guys crack me up!!!  No, seriously, I'm crying over here!  Plus I spit my coffee all over the screen! 

Of COURSE you're answer to why you are still waiting would be that you could play it for free in a few months!  I don't know why I didn't think of that.  I'm soooooo stupid LOL.

You guys rule.  I'm not kidding.  You slay me.   Whew!.......I gotta get a hold of myself after that.  Snot running all over the place from laughing so hard and whatnot.

So yeah......

 

OP, If you had been on these forums as of the past two years, You would find that 70% of the posters here are free loaders.

And the only reason they play mmorpg's is because it's one of the only ways to get games totally free.  All you have to do is bounce from one to another when it becomes time to pay anything !

 

I'm holding off because my friends and I decided to wait until some bugs are fixed, however I'm not sure if I could wait like they can.....I may take you up on that.

 

Well, with the upcomming console release, and the fact that is the first true AAA MMO developed for consoles...

 

those freeloaders might be surprised, the fact of a real MMO on consoles alone and the game being high quallity will make this game the most succesfull MMO since WoW..   If the quallity is right, people willpay for a game..  And so far the enthralling immersiveness of the game seems to work for a whole truckload of people..

 

There is not going to be any f2p any time soon....   

It has to go B2P like GW2, not F2P.  Since it has a console release, they can not mark that down to $0.

  Four0Six

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Joined: 12/18/11
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3/31/14 8:39:14 AM#53
Originally posted by jesad

Did you know that the digital download of the regular pre-order version came with 5 day access?

Don't believe me?  Go Look.

Buy your game directly from Zenimax and play right freaking now.  No codes to wait for, update is instant.  If you are patched you  can pop right over and log right in.

 

Because I just read in another thread that someone capped in less than a day.

 

 

  eldaris

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3/31/14 8:56:02 AM#54


Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by Sajman01 Because I can wait 3 months then play it for free.

Originally posted by delete5230 Originally posted by jesad HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! That was AWESOME!!  You guys crack me up!!!  No, seriously, I'm crying over here!  Plus I spit my coffee all over the screen!  Of COURSE you're answer to why you are still waiting would be that you could play it for free in a few months!  I don't know why I didn't think of that.  I'm soooooo stupid LOL. You guys rule.  I'm not kidding.  You slay me.   Whew!.......I gotta get a hold of myself after that.  Snot running all over the place from laughing so hard and whatnot. So yeah......  
OP, If you had been on these forums as of the past two years, You would find that 70% of the posters here are free loaders. And the only reason they play mmorpg's is because it's one of the only ways to get games totally free.  All you have to do is bounce from one to another when it becomes time to pay anything !   I'm holding off because my friends and I decided to wait until some bugs are fixed, however I'm not sure if I could wait like they can.....I may take you up on that.
 

Well, with the upcomming console release, and the fact that is the first true AAA MMO developed for consoles...

 

those freeloaders might be surprised, the fact of a real MMO on consoles alone and the game being high quallity will make this game the most succesfull MMO since WoW..   If the quallity is right, people willpay for a game..  And so far the enthralling immersiveness of the game seems to work for a whole truckload of people..

 

There is not going to be any f2p any time soon....   


The fact that is made for console is enough to wait, maybe at a sale in a year or two I could give it a try. It has nothing to do with the game being p2p but with their marketing tactics, lack of an immersive game world (loading screens every 3 m is immersion only if you are used to console games),console type controls,no ah,megaserver destroying communities outside of guilds,not much in common with Elder Scrolls game beside title and lore. For quality of this game to be right as you say it should offer something better than what's available (p2p or f2p) and TESO is not doing that for me, just a rehash of other games and lot of limitations, probably because of developers want to sell on consoles too.

  Amjoco

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3/31/14 11:28:51 AM#55
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by GwapoJosh
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

 


 

 

 

There is not going to be any f2p any time soon....   

People say that exact same thing with every p2p game that releases..  Good luck :)  I really do hope it stays sub based.

The game won't go f2p imho. Reason is it has such a huge fanbase and is a great game. Sure, there will be a lot of people who quit after the first month, every game has that, but it will still hold a huge niche base of players. FFXIV:ARR is a good example of this. 

Anyway, I will definitely pay the sub for this game. Once the curious players leave, and the hardcore ES players are left, it will be worth every penny. 

FFXIV ARR has in house publishers and investors.

Is that the same for ESO? by the way even YOSHI is open to F2P and is considering F2P as an option.

Huge fanbase and a great game..two things which has never stopped a MMO going F2P befoe. You guys need to touch base with reality and never say never.

In most cases people here use f2p as a way to describe a game as going to fail, and then having to go to that format. For those of you that are not real flexible, I will rephrase what I said. The game won't go f2p imho because of failure. The same was said about FFXIV ARR and it is slowly closing in on a year since it's release.  If either of these games do change its subscription format, it will not be because the games have failed.

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  Scot

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3/31/14 11:39:19 AM#56
Posters still talking about AA, there is no release date. Wait till Xmas if you want :)
  meddyck

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3/31/14 12:01:35 PM#57
I'm waiting because the only thing that interested me about TESO is AvA, but I'm not sold that it will in the end be a better version of RvR than we saw in WAR and GW 2. I don't want to spend $60+$15/month after the free month and do several months of boring PvE (I only really have time to play 1-2 hours a day) only to find out AvA is fail just like the RvR in those games. For once I am being patient and waiting to see what others say about a new PvE MMO that also has RvR after they have enough time playing it in the live game to have a legitimate opinion on how it works.

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  eldaris

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3/31/14 12:09:46 PM#58


Originally posted by meddyck
I'm waiting because the only thing that interested me about TESO is AvA, but I'm not sold that it will in the end be a better version of RvR than we saw in WAR and GW 2. I don't want to spend $60+$15/month after the free month and do several months of boring PvE (I only really have time to play 1-2 hours a day) only to find out AvA is fail just like the RvR in those games. For once I am being patient and waiting to see what others say about a new PvE MMO that also has RvR after they have enough time playing it in the live game to have a legitimate opinion on how it works.

If only AvA would be as fun as WAR in tiers 1-3 I would buy the game right now but it will be more like a bigger WvWvW area in GW2,with more running and no faction pride at all. While WAR had a lot of problems at least it had factions with different styles, classes and not a blue vs red type of pvp with players from all factions in same guilds etc.

  fivoroth

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3/31/14 12:31:58 PM#59
Originally posted by jesad

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! That was AWESOME!!  You guys crack me up!!!  No, seriously, I'm crying over here!  Plus I spit my coffee all over the screen! 

Of COURSE you're answer to why you are still waiting would be that you could play it for free in a few months!  I don't know why I didn't think of that.  I'm soooooo stupid LOL.

You guys rule.  I'm not kidding.  You slay me.   Whew!.......I gotta get a hold of myself after that.  Snot running all over the place from laughing so hard and whatnot.

So yeah......

 

Haha, you crack me up. Haters are going to hate so just ignore them. I seriously doubt that TESO will become free to play in 3 months.

Anyways I haven't done any research on the game before I bought it but even I knew that the standard edition from Zenimax comes with 5 days early access. I found out that when I was researching where to buy it from. I still bought it from a different place cause I saved almost 30-40% off the price by buying it retail. Thought the two extra days were not worth it.

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  JimmyYO

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3/31/14 12:34:34 PM#60
Originally posted by Sajman01
Because I can wait 3 months then play it for free.

Lmao! Exactly

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