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  Tolmos

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3/30/14 10:13:20 AM#21
Originally posted by MorningStarGG
Originally posted by Gaxusn
Originally posted by MorningStarGG
Why settle for "just fine" why not expect better with your money and time? Why let them get away with rushing a game out for profit instead of letting it sit in the oven and finish baking first?

You must be from another world my friend. 

"Why let them get away with rushing a game".... And what exactly are you going to do about it? If people enjoy the game, in its current state, what on earth has it got to do with you. Get off your high horse, find a game you enjoy and let the ESO players enjoy their game.

Sounds to me your butthurt because you bought the game, hyped up and it isn't what you expected. 

Go for a walk and stop being such a drama queen mate, laughable.

I am grounded in reality, I expect to get what I paid for, sue me. I am an ESO player, a very disappointed one that expected better, and more. Sadly, it is what I expected, however I bought the pre-order so I wouldn't get locked out later in terms of character choice. It's odd how you tell someone to get over themselves and it is you acting like the end all be all.

At this point you've pretty much said your peace on the matter. You are now faced with a few choices:

A) Continue to complain on various forums about the game, thus wasting your Sunday and not only subjecting yourself to an "unfinished" game, but also losing valuable free time because of it.

B) Play and move on, realizing there's really not a lot anyone could do about it and the things are saying have been said by someone about every MMO ever released.

C) Do something else, and feel strength in your conviction that you didn't stick with the game that didn't give you your money's worth, and didn't waste your time posting on a forum Zenimax doesn't even read with complaints that everyone has read 100000000x before.

Good luck to you! :)

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  Whacko

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3/30/14 10:25:46 AM#22
Originally posted by MorningStarGG
Why settle for "just fine" why not expect better with your money and time? Why let them get away with rushing a game out for profit instead of letting it sit in the oven and finish baking first?

Simple answer,  The players.

The great Hype machine created by Players starts the process of a product being rushed to launch.

If a Title is heavily hyped and shown strong interest from a craving playerbase, the publishers know damn well people will buy it. Regardless of what anyone says it's all about MONEY. Why release a completely finished game when you can tease players with a golden carrot?

Lets say for example a game  has a pre-order,  potential players have options of what packages to purchase. If you keep up the hype in the mainstream, players will buy it.

Why wait? 

The trend is to Launch a game as close to being STABLE as possible, then just produce patches to correct issues and of course keep that hype machine rolling.

Either way They make money, that's the goal of every business.

It's all an illusion.

Players cause all this.. 

 

 

  PsychoPigeon

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Joined: 8/15/07
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3/30/14 10:31:11 AM#23

Isn't it strange how people complain about issues like logging in if the server is getting hammered but will most likely be fixed quickly. People actually then say "oh that launch was bad" as if it mattered at all.

 


Originally posted by Whacko Simple answer,  The players.

The great Hype machine created by Players starts the process of a product being rushed to launch.

It's all an illusion.

Players cause all this.. 

 

 

I work in the gaming industry and player hype does not mean the game launches sooner than already scheduled. Don't talk crap.

 

  MorningStarGG

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Posts: 403

3/30/14 10:32:49 AM#24
Originally posted by Carnicide
Originally posted by MorningStarGG
Originally posted by Gaxusn
Originally posted by MorningStarGG
Why settle for "just fine" why not expect better with your money and time? Why let them get away with rushing a game out for profit instead of letting it sit in the oven and finish baking first?

You must be from another world my friend. 

"Why let them get away with rushing a game".... And what exactly are you going to do about it? If people enjoy the game, in its current state, what on earth has it got to do with you. Get off your high horse, find a game you enjoy and let the ESO players enjoy their game.

Sounds to me your butthurt because you bought the game, hyped up and it isn't what you expected. 

Go for a walk and stop being such a drama queen mate, laughable.

I am grounded in reality, I expect to get what I paid for, sue me. I am an ESO player, a very disappointed one that expected better, and more. Sadly, it is what I expected, however I bought the pre-order so I wouldn't get locked out later in terms of character choice. It's odd how you tell someone to get over themselves and it is you acting like the end all be all.

I can't believe you're disappointed the only 2 bugs I've come across was the zoom in on the character face and the auto dismount from the horse. I've only played one other MMO this smooth at launch...Rift. I am very pleased and I believe they did a great job listening to their fans.

I'm not even worried about the bugs, that is sort of expected, except the two I mentioned should never happen at any stage of development. I am disappointed by them rushing the game to release when it's not ready and feature incomplete.

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  Carnicide

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3/30/14 10:39:16 AM#25

I'm not even worried about the bugs, that is sort of expected, except the two I mentioned should never happen at any stage of development. I am disappointed by them rushing the game to release when it's not ready and feature incomplete.

See that's the point.... it doesn't feel rushed. How does it feel rushed, got any examples?

  Voiidiin

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3/30/14 10:40:42 AM#26
Originally posted by MorningStarGG
Why settle for "just fine" why not expect better with your money and time? Why let them get away with rushing a game out for profit instead of letting it sit in the oven and finish baking first?

Why hate a game you paid for to get into early access ? 

i find it mind boggling that you are so super critical of a game thats not even officially released. This is early access, and so far its almost perfect ... for me... seriously dont pre-order a game to get early access if you are gonna go fruit bat crazy on the smallest of bugs.

Jeesh, i mean really man get a grip here. Your ranting over the smallest of details.

I am more angry that my ISP found out it was early access for TESO and decided to go tits up all day off and on ruining my fun... TITS UP !

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  ApollosWill

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Joined: 5/29/06
Posts: 50

3/30/14 10:44:23 AM#27
Originally posted by MorningStarGG
Originally posted by Brixon
Originally posted by MorningStarGG
First off character creation only works half-ass. Most sliders have no affect, you cannot for some reason zoom in on your character(options are there they don't work). Oddly, they worked in "beta".

Secondly, the drop to the main city instead of the starter islands still feels off and like more work should have been done, or they should have just left them intact with an option starting from them to skip them.

Then I found I couldn't even report a bug that shouldn't even exist by the way and only does because of the above, the bug report part of the game kept asking me to "select an impact" or something stupid that for the life of me I couldn't figure out, or get to work.

Obviously the game is not ready for launch and any features added over the next several months(if they keep their word!) should have been in at launch. I feel they are just trying to release now to get money back from development so they can finish their game and called it "meaningful content updates". 

Trion is the only developer that released rapid, meaningful updates to their game(RiFT) sadly the lore and the story are not gripping and feels a bit uninspired. Love the game but wish if would hold my attention better.

With all this said I am working on getting Skyrim ready to play(have yet to get very far as I was awaiting DLC, and mods.) so there ya go. The game could have been great, and still might get better, but only because they finish the game a few months from now.

What irritates me is people who say companies sell betas, I never agreed with that before now. This is clearly a beta being sold as retail. And to get the most options(race, faction, and other goodies) you have to pre order, and get the Imperial Edition(I got it, but I am going to withhold my key so I can keep my free 30 days for later when the game is more complete, and ready). I also only paid standard edition price for the Imperial Edition(60 instead of 80).

So you had this post pre-typed and ready to post to every thread. Interesting how you claim to know about the current state of the game, yet admit your not currently playing it.

Never once did I admit I was not playing it. I said I won't play it further. The game is not ready, anyone who ignores that, brushes it off or otherwise is the very reason this game will have a rough time. The developer need to know these things and need to realize releasing games that are not ready will not be tolerated. The game has been live for over 4 hours now, I had plenty of time to see the current "launch" state. Your attempt to discredit me when I stated FACT, not opinion has failed. 

And before all the defenders and fanboys come out to play I never said the game was bad, I said it was, and remains thus far at "launch" incomplete and rushed.

You are kinda saying you are not playing it now, as you are withholding your key.

Anyhow, I'm really satisfied as well. One of the best and smoothest launches for me. Want to make a long post about how great this is, but I don't have time. Got to get back to Tamriel.

  Whacko

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Joined: 5/19/06
Posts: 136

3/30/14 10:46:06 AM#28
Originally posted by PsychoPigeon

Isn't it strange how people complain about issues like logging in if the server is getting hammered but will most likely be fixed quickly. People actually then say "oh that launch was bad" as if it mattered at all.

 


Originally posted by Whacko Simple answer,  The players.

The great Hype machine created by Players starts the process of a product being rushed to launch.

It's all an illusion.

Players cause all this.. 

 

 

I work in the gaming industry and player hype does not mean the game launches sooner than already scheduled. Don't talk crap.

 

You work in the Industry and you are saying that Marketing Feedback has no bearing?

Stop and realize it's all business 101.

And stop saying you work in the gaming industry. the true Gaming industry is that of Casinos, which you clearly don't understand. just say you work in the VideoGame Industry please.

LOL

So please tell the world why games get released half finished since you work in the industry.

  MorningStarGG

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Joined: 10/09/04
Posts: 403

3/30/14 10:55:37 AM#29

Originally posted by Carnicide


I'm not even worried about the bugs, that is sort of expected, except the two I mentioned should never happen at any stage of development. I am disappointed by them rushing the game to release when it's not ready and feature incomplete.

See that's the point.... it doesn't feel rushed. How does it feel rushed, got any examples?

Already posted them read back a page or two...

Originally posted by Voiidiin

Originally posted by MorningStarGG
Why settle for "just fine" why not expect better with your money and time? Why let them get away with rushing a game out for profit instead of letting it sit in the oven and finish baking first?

Why hate a game you paid for to get into early access ? 

i find it mind boggling that you are so super critical of a game thats not even officially released. This is early access, and so far its almost perfect ... for me... seriously dont pre-order a game to get early access if you are gonna go fruit bat crazy on the smallest of bugs.

Jeesh, i mean really man get a grip here. Your ranting over the smallest of details.

I am more angry that my ISP found out it was early access for TESO and decided to go tits up all day off and on ruining my fun... TITS UP !

Once a game hits 1.0 and releases for Early Access that game is launched AKA released. Never said I hated the game, I said it is rushed and has bugs that simply should never happen in any game at any stage of development.

Originally posted by ApollosWill

Originally posted by MorningStarGG
Originally posted by Brixon
Originally posted by MorningStarGG
First off character creation only works half-ass. Most sliders have no affect, you cannot for some reason zoom in on your character(options are there they don't work). Oddly, they worked in "beta".

Secondly, the drop to the main city instead of the starter islands still feels off and like more work should have been done, or they should have just left them intact with an option starting from them to skip them.

Then I found I couldn't even report a bug that shouldn't even exist by the way and only does because of the above, the bug report part of the game kept asking me to "select an impact" or something stupid that for the life of me I couldn't figure out, or get to work.

Obviously the game is not ready for launch and any features added over the next several months(if they keep their word!) should have been in at launch. I feel they are just trying to release now to get money back from development so they can finish their game and called it "meaningful content updates". 

Trion is the only developer that released rapid, meaningful updates to their game(RiFT) sadly the lore and the story are not gripping and feels a bit uninspired. Love the game but wish if would hold my attention better.

With all this said I am working on getting Skyrim ready to play(have yet to get very far as I was awaiting DLC, and mods.) so there ya go. The game could have been great, and still might get better, but only because they finish the game a few months from now.

What irritates me is people who say companies sell betas, I never agreed with that before now. This is clearly a beta being sold as retail. And to get the most options(race, faction, and other goodies) you have to pre order, and get the Imperial Edition(I got it, but I am going to withhold my key so I can keep my free 30 days for later when the game is more complete, and ready). I also only paid standard edition price for the Imperial Edition(60 instead of 80).

So you had this post pre-typed and ready to post to every thread. Interesting how you claim to know about the current state of the game, yet admit your not currently playing it.

Never once did I admit I was not playing it. I said I won't play it further. The game is not ready, anyone who ignores that, brushes it off or otherwise is the very reason this game will have a rough time. The developer need to know these things and need to realize releasing games that are not ready will not be tolerated. The game has been live for over 4 hours now, I had plenty of time to see the current "launch" state. Your attempt to discredit me when I stated FACT, not opinion has failed. 

And before all the defenders and fanboys come out to play I never said the game was bad, I said it was, and remains thus far at "launch" incomplete and rushed.

You are kinda saying you are not playing it now, as you are withholding your key.

Anyhow, I'm really satisfied as well. One of the best and smoothest launches for me. Want to make a long post about how great this is, but I don't have time. Got to get back to Tamriel.

I am withholding my retail key, I used my Early Access key, they are two different things.  Have fun. 

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  stragen001

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3/30/14 11:03:08 AM#30

MorningstarGG - If this is all it takes for you to quit a game maybe you need to find a new hobby.

Maybe this is your first MMO launch, or maybe you are just being argumentative, but MMO launches have issues. Always have, always will. 

In the grand scheme of things the ESO launch is pretty smooth. 

Seems to me like you are trying to find things to complain about rather than trying to enjoy the game. The things you have mentioned are so minor that most people will just say "hmmm thats a bit annoying" and then carry on enjoying the game 

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  Amjoco

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3/30/14 11:07:53 AM#31
Originally posted by stragen001

OP - If this is all it takes for you to quit a game maybe you need to find a new hobby.

Maybe this is your first MMO launch, or maybe you are just being argumentative, but MMO launches have issues. Always have, always will. 

In the grand scheme of things the ESO launch is pretty smooth. 

Seems to me like you are trying to find things to complain about rather than trying to enjoy the game. The things you have mentioned are so minor that most people will just say "hmmm thats a bit annoying" and then carry on enjoying the game 

I really didn't see the OP complain.

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  maple2

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3/30/14 11:18:01 AM#32
not so many people bought the game and thats why..
  seafirex

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3/30/14 11:18:32 AM#33

The OP never complained by the way it is a poster that replied to his post that voiced his opinion on how he found the game that he had enter his early access key. And it went downfall from there with all the fan boys of the game.

But the OP never complained

  Whitebeards

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Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 750

3/30/14 11:37:35 AM#34
Originally posted by seafirex

The OP never complained by the way it is a poster that replied to his post that voiced his opinion on how he found the game that he had enter his early access key. And it went downfall from there with all the fan boys of the game.

But the OP never complained

Doesn't matter. He didn't sing high praises for ESO so he should be burned!!!!!

'Fans logic'.

  stragen001

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Joined: 1/09/09
Posts: 1737

Mr Flibble is VERY cross

3/30/14 11:46:21 AM#35
Originally posted by seafirex

The OP never complained by the way it is a poster that replied to his post that voiced his opinion on how he found the game that he had enter his early access key. And it went downfall from there with all the fan boys of the game.

But the OP never complained

 

Apologies to LisaFlexy22, my comments were meant for MorningstarGG

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  Shonsbye

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Joined: 7/26/09
Posts: 7

3/30/14 11:50:15 AM#36

Not my experience.

Been trying to login for 3 hours with no success.

No problem logging in during beta, not even close to getting in today - puzzling.

  Distopia

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3/30/14 11:53:01 AM#37
Originally posted by Shonsbye

Not my experience.

Been trying to login for 3 hours with no success.

No problem logging in during beta, not even close to getting in today - puzzling.

What is the problem you're having exactly?

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  UWNVME

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Joined: 4/16/06
Posts: 174

3/30/14 12:19:37 PM#38
So what's the deal with this whole all NPCs, players, and monsters vanishing glitch? I relog and then a few seconds later it happens again. I'm hearing stories about people getting stuck in the Coldharbour tutorial because the Prophet isn't even spawning. Any news on a hotfix of some sort? I'm very tolerant on MMO launch issues but this is game-breaking.
  hail2dathief

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Joined: 3/10/09
Posts: 215

3/30/14 12:19:40 PM#39
I was in for a few hours but keep getting big lag spikes and keep getting dropped from the server.  Then I couldn't log in for a bit and now I'm back in and all that happens is nothing but huge lag spikes and I keep getting dropped from the server over and over.

  maple2

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Joined: 7/27/11
Posts: 103

3/30/14 12:21:41 PM#40

guys i am watching a stream and on that stream there are no one in the chat or in the game. and every so called rift or anything is just something u cannot do since no one play the game.

 

i guess only about 100k is playing now

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