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  Zalmon

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 323

3/28/14 3:45:08 AM#21
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Teala
 

If that is truly how you feel about games, maybe you shouldn't play them.   I mean, seriously...you and some others must really be a sad lot if games effect you that much.   So how often to you go all raging when you die in a game - all the time or just once in awhile?

What's hilarious is people are talking about how things like this can have an effect on people in really real ways, yet here you are still beating your chest like it's some form of forum PVP.  Again Victim or not is irrelevant it's the behavior that's a problem, left unchecked this kind of behavior can lead to terrible things, it's more or less a fact of life in this day and age. Are you blind to that or just extremely stubborn for nothing more than the sake of forum image?

Not worth it bro. Just look at her replies and the tone she uses.

Just ignore the whole thing and lets focus on ESO hype!!!! Erotica and his hooligans will get a visit from 'Karma' for sure i can guarantee you that. People under estimate power of words which are more powerful than any bullet or weapon in the world. They won't get away with this only because it's the internet.

  Phry

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Joined: 7/01/04
Posts: 5191

3/28/14 3:48:48 AM#22
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Teala
 

If that is truly how you feel about games, maybe you shouldn't play them.   I mean, seriously...you and some others must really be a sad lot if games effect you that much.   So how often to you go all raging when you die in a game - all the time or just once in awhile?

What's hilarious is people are talking about how things like this can have an effect on people in really real ways, yet here you are still beating your chest like it's some form of forum PVP.  Again Victim or not is irrelevant it's the behavior that's a problem, left unchecked this kind of behavior can lead to terrible things, it's more or less a fact of life in this day and age. Are you blind to that or just extremely stubborn for nothing more than the sake of forum image?

OMG...yes, scamming people in the game if EVE will lead to a life of crime and who knows what else in the real world.    I think Iceland needs to shut down CCP and close EVE down now before something terrible happens!  Who knows what twisted deprived things will happen to gamers minds if they play EVE!

 

You have a point, i mean all those battles over sovereignty too, those people might actually try to take over a country for real, its only a matter of time after all! and all those miners, before you know it, they'll be out in their gardens with a pick axe and a shovel making a nuisance of themselves

ps. gardening doesnt count

Those who have an issue with 'bad things' happening in games, Hello Kitty Online is just for you just stay away from sandbox games, or any game for that matter that doesn't have heavily moderated social interaction

  Akerbeltz

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Joined: 2/12/13
Posts: 151

3/28/14 3:53:16 AM#23
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Yeah yeah..when everything else fails hide behind 'its just a game' excuse. 

 

Oh yeah, because we are in front of a drama only comparable to domestic violence, Guantamo tortures or school bullying.

 

All this matter is of such triviality that boggles my mind to no-end the hysteria, hyperbole and fetish hate against EVE shown by the hollow drama queens here. It's in fact as trivial as:

 

- Erotica 1, one of the most popular scammers, information about him all over the EVE chats/forums and the internet.

- Sohkar had used Erotica 1's services previously. The latter had effectively doubled the former's investments.

- Sohkar did bite again when Erotica 1 selected him for the Bonus Round, an alleged unique opportunity to 5x his investments. Sohkar was greedy and consented.

- So Sohkar passed a huge amount of assets over to Erotica 1, just like that. The latter then told Sohkar to read funny stuff and sing songs. Sohkar had faith and consented to this.

- Sohkar got tired, lost control and went into a psychopathic display full of racial slurs, obscenities and real-life threats.

- Jester Trek, who has personal interest and personal animosity towards Erotica 1, writes a sensationalistic article on his blog. 

- Sohkar calmed down, got conscious of the scene he had made and apologized.

 

Keep on with the witch-hunting you tabloid feeders.

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

  cura

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/24/04
Posts: 864

3/28/14 4:00:34 AM#24
Originally posted by Caldicot
This was not about feeling sorry for the guy who got scammed. It was about the immoral and sinister behavior of the scammers who took things way too far.

This. I dont give a shit if he was stupid or not becouse that doesnt justify them being sick assholes. If your (not directing this at you Cadicot) parents didnt teach you that, now you know the reason why the earth is such a cesspool. 

  Zalmon

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 323

3/28/14 4:00:57 AM#25
Originally posted by Akerbeltz
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Yeah yeah..when everything else fails hide behind 'its just a game' excuse. 

 

Oh yeah, because we are in front of a drama only comparable to domestic violence, Guantamo tortures or school bullying.

 

All this matter is of such triviality that boggles my mind to no-end the hysteria, hyperbole and fetish hate against EVE shown by the hollow drama queens here. It's in fact as trivial as:

 

- Erotica 1, one of the most popular scammers, information about him all over the EVE chats/forums and the internet.

- Sohkar had used Erotica 1's services previously. The latter had effectively doubled the former's investments.

- Sohkar did bite again when Erotica 1 selected him for the Bonus Round, an alleged unique opportunity to 5x his investments. Sohkar was greedy and consented.

- So Sohkar passed a huge amount of assets over to Erotica 1, just like that. The latter then told Sohkar to read funny stuff and sing songs. Sohkar had faith and consented to this.

- Sohkar got tired, lost control and went into a psychopathic display full of racial slurs, obscenities and real-life threats.

- Jester Trek, who has personal interest and personal animosity towards Erotica 1, writes a sensationalistic article on his blog. 

- Sohkar calmed down, got conscious of the scene he had made and apologized.

 

Keep on with the witch-hunting you tabloid feeders.

Better than being a bottom feeder.

And i don't think you understand the term 'witch hunting'. The actions and behaviour of the guy is on display for everyone to witness. There is no need for witch hunting in this case.

Yes it was Sohkar's own fault that he got scammed. But what you and others keep ignoring is that it isn't just about scam. Try to separate the two issues here and you might be able to understand what actually caused people to get angry.

Or...don't and continue with your one sided defense rants. 

I am done either way because i am actually physically repulsed by this.

  tawess

Elite Member

Joined: 3/24/05
Posts: 1965

3/28/14 4:05:18 AM#26

yes it turned out fine this time... That is really good. Next time it might not turn out all that good. The next victim might not take the loss laying down... We as a community should never encourage scammer by legitimizing their behaviour.

 

Then again with that said i always hold to the idea that if someone is going to be scammed, let it be in a video-game where nothing of real value beyond time is lost. This might save them from loosing something of rreal value in the real world. After all i am not going to be naive enough to think that scammers just go away because we point fingers at them and call them bottom-feeding loosers. It is after all one of the oldest ways of getting by in this world.

Tomas Soapbox

This have been a good conversation

  Fly666monkey

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Joined: 10/25/11
Posts: 135

3/28/14 4:07:53 AM#27
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala

For those that were so upset and irrational about the scamming incident that recently came to light, from a blog post >>> here: Jester Treck.  Turns out that Sohkar, the guy that got scammed says that everything is cool...that he realized he made a stupid mistake and fell for it...then went on to apologize for his behavior...admitting he was tired and "just lost his cool" over being scammed and was more upset with himself that he had done such a stupid thing.      He says he was no "victim" of torture or anything of the sort and he wishes people would stop saying that.

He never wished this to be made into such a big deal...turns out this article was made by an EVE CSM that has an issue with a few players in EVE and he figured if he wrote about this incident he would garner people to his cause.   Sohkar was never a part of it...this CSM did it on his own accord without Sohkar's concent.  Well it now seems to have backfired and people are requesting that the CSM be removed.    Funny that.

Sohkar by they way managed to get back up on his feet, in game, in a couple of days after the incident- when he made 300m ISK from a salvage job.

If you think I am BS'n you and this is all made up...you can hear a live chat on Twitch TV right now between Sohkar and Erotica1. 

Live Twitch Chat Happening now.

I'm struggling to understand your reasoning behind wanting to defend and assist these scumbags.

It's a natural human response to traumatic incidents to downplay them and want it to just go away. Ask any woman who has been assaulted. These guys are pure bred 100% scumbags and their behaviour is the lowest possible denominator we have. Condoning this is beyond belief.

Crowing that in fact the guy who blew the whistle on this behaviour may himself be in trouble over this places you exactly amongst these guys as scum. Are you sure you want to identify yourself publically as such?

Hehehe...it's a game for Titus Flavius sake...stop making more of this than what it is..seriously.    Some of you are such drama queens.  

Yeah yeah..when everything else fails hide behind 'its just a game' excuse. 

Yes, because things that happen in EVE effects the "real" world and Universe.     ::rolls here eyes::

Yeah ofcourse because those are not real human beings you are interacting with right? because its internet so one can be a complete douche and  say whatever he or she wants. 

Keep digging that hole deeper..soon you won't be able to climb out of it.

If that is truly how you feel about games, maybe you shouldn't play them.   I mean, seriously...you and some others must really be a sad lot if games effect you that much.   So how often do you go all raging when you die in a game - all the time or just once in awhile?

So because it's "Just a game," we should ignore the fact that these guys bullied a man, who probably had no idea what he was getting in to, to the point of borderline psychological torture? It's all in good fun and shouldn't be taken seriously, right?

You are a complete scumbag! How do you sleep at night!?

  Solar_Prophet

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Joined: 11/10/13
Posts: 621

3/28/14 4:08:51 AM#28

By your logic, men beating their wives is perfectly acceptable if she says "It was no big deal, just a game, I'm fine, haha!", and drops any domestic violence charges.

The fact that you would even defend this type of behavior and the people who engage in it speaks volumes as to the quality of your character, just as CCP's tolerance of this kind of  garbage does of theirs. As such, I'm not going to waste my time addressing you further.

Edit: Oh, and anyone who thinks Sokhar needed to apologize for being victimized, do you think bullied people should apologize to the bullies? Battered wives should apologize to their spouses?

Garbage like this makes me ashamed to be human.

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  Teala

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Joined: 6/16/04
Posts: 7432

"Really officer, they're herbs."

 
OP  3/28/14 4:11:06 AM#29
Originally posted by Fly666monkey
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala

For those that were so upset and irrational about the scamming incident that recently came to light, from a blog post >>> here: Jester Treck.  Turns out that Sohkar, the guy that got scammed says that everything is cool...that he realized he made a stupid mistake and fell for it...then went on to apologize for his behavior...admitting he was tired and "just lost his cool" over being scammed and was more upset with himself that he had done such a stupid thing.      He says he was no "victim" of torture or anything of the sort and he wishes people would stop saying that.

He never wished this to be made into such a big deal...turns out this article was made by an EVE CSM that has an issue with a few players in EVE and he figured if he wrote about this incident he would garner people to his cause.   Sohkar was never a part of it...this CSM did it on his own accord without Sohkar's concent.  Well it now seems to have backfired and people are requesting that the CSM be removed.    Funny that.

Sohkar by they way managed to get back up on his feet, in game, in a couple of days after the incident- when he made 300m ISK from a salvage job.

If you think I am BS'n you and this is all made up...you can hear a live chat on Twitch TV right now between Sohkar and Erotica1. 

Live Twitch Chat Happening now.

I'm struggling to understand your reasoning behind wanting to defend and assist these scumbags.

It's a natural human response to traumatic incidents to downplay them and want it to just go away. Ask any woman who has been assaulted. These guys are pure bred 100% scumbags and their behaviour is the lowest possible denominator we have. Condoning this is beyond belief.

Crowing that in fact the guy who blew the whistle on this behaviour may himself be in trouble over this places you exactly amongst these guys as scum. Are you sure you want to identify yourself publically as such?

Hehehe...it's a game for Titus Flavius sake...stop making more of this than what it is..seriously.    Some of you are such drama queens.  

Yeah yeah..when everything else fails hide behind 'its just a game' excuse. 

Yes, because things that happen in EVE effects the "real" world and Universe.     ::rolls here eyes::

Yeah ofcourse because those are not real human beings you are interacting with right? because its internet so one can be a complete douche and  say whatever he or she wants. 

Keep digging that hole deeper..soon you won't be able to climb out of it.

If that is truly how you feel about games, maybe you shouldn't play them.   I mean, seriously...you and some others must really be a sad lot if games effect you that much.   So how often do you go all raging when you die in a game - all the time or just once in awhile?

So because it's "Just a game," we should ignore the fact that these guys bullied a man, who probably had no idea what he was getting in to, to the point of borderline psychological torture? It's all in good fun and shouldn't be taken seriously, right?

You are a complete scumbag! How do you sleep at night!?

lol...very soundly, thank you. 

 

Do you people read what you write? 

  Teala

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Joined: 6/16/04
Posts: 7432

"Really officer, they're herbs."

 
OP  3/28/14 4:12:35 AM#30
Originally posted by Solar_Prophet

By your logic, men beating their wives is perfectly acceptable if she says "It was no big deal, just a game, I'm fine, haha!", and drops any domestic violence charges.

The fact that you would even defend this type of behavior and the people who engage in it speaks volumes as to the quality of your character, just as CCP's tolerance of this kind of  garbage does of theirs. As such, I'm not going to waste my time addressing you further.

Well, so...I asked you once before, should we ban football? [mod edit]

  AzurePrower

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Joined: 3/18/07
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Ahh yes, "Hypers." The people who praise and hate every MMORPG... We've dismissed that claim.

3/28/14 4:20:26 AM#31
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala

For those that were so upset and irrational about the scamming incident that recently came to light, from a blog post >>> here: Jester Treck.  Turns out that Sohkar, the guy that got scammed says that everything is cool...that he realized he made a stupid mistake and fell for it...then went on to apologize for his behavior...admitting he was tired and "just lost his cool" over being scammed and was more upset with himself that he had done such a stupid thing.      He says he was no "victim" of torture or anything of the sort and he wishes people would stop saying that.

He never wished this to be made into such a big deal...turns out this article was made by an EVE CSM that has an issue with a few players in EVE and he figured if he wrote about this incident he would garner people to his cause.   Sohkar was never a part of it...this CSM did it on his own accord without Sohkar's concent.  Well it now seems to have backfired and people are requesting that the CSM be removed.    Funny that.

Sohkar by they way managed to get back up on his feet, in game, in a couple of days after the incident- when he made 300m ISK from a salvage job.

If you think I am BS'n you and this is all made up...you can hear a live chat on Twitch TV right now between Sohkar and Erotica1. 

Live Twitch Chat Happening now.

I'm struggling to understand your reasoning behind wanting to defend and assist these scumbags.

It's a natural human response to traumatic incidents to downplay them and want it to just go away. Ask any woman who has been assaulted. These guys are pure bred 100% scumbags and their behaviour is the lowest possible denominator we have. Condoning this is beyond belief.

Crowing that in fact the guy who blew the whistle on this behaviour may himself be in trouble over this places you exactly amongst these guys as scum. Are you sure you want to identify yourself publically as such?

Hehehe...it's a game for Titus Flavius sake...stop making more of this than what it is..seriously.    Some of you are such drama queens.  

This particular set of behaviours has nothing to do with a game. It is emotional torture. It is depraved. Kids play 'games' all the time that we adults actually call 'bullying'. Bullying behaviour can result in things like suicide.

If someone goes through this and then kills themselves, is it still a game to you?

So...are you saying that games shouldn't be played by mentally unstable people?

That's pretty cold.

 

That's just as bad as saying minority groups shouldn't be playing games because people might harass them with racial/bigotry slurs.

 

Are you defending that type of toxic attitude too? Can you not see what you are saying is morally wrong? Where do you draw the line?

  Teala

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OP  3/28/14 4:24:36 AM#32
Originally posted by AzurePrower
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala

For those that were so upset and irrational about the scamming incident that recently came to light, from a blog post >>> here: Jester Treck.  Turns out that Sohkar, the guy that got scammed says that everything is cool...that he realized he made a stupid mistake and fell for it...then went on to apologize for his behavior...admitting he was tired and "just lost his cool" over being scammed and was more upset with himself that he had done such a stupid thing.      He says he was no "victim" of torture or anything of the sort and he wishes people would stop saying that.

He never wished this to be made into such a big deal...turns out this article was made by an EVE CSM that has an issue with a few players in EVE and he figured if he wrote about this incident he would garner people to his cause.   Sohkar was never a part of it...this CSM did it on his own accord without Sohkar's concent.  Well it now seems to have backfired and people are requesting that the CSM be removed.    Funny that.

Sohkar by they way managed to get back up on his feet, in game, in a couple of days after the incident- when he made 300m ISK from a salvage job.

If you think I am BS'n you and this is all made up...you can hear a live chat on Twitch TV right now between Sohkar and Erotica1. 

Live Twitch Chat Happening now.

I'm struggling to understand your reasoning behind wanting to defend and assist these scumbags.

It's a natural human response to traumatic incidents to downplay them and want it to just go away. Ask any woman who has been assaulted. These guys are pure bred 100% scumbags and their behaviour is the lowest possible denominator we have. Condoning this is beyond belief.

Crowing that in fact the guy who blew the whistle on this behaviour may himself be in trouble over this places you exactly amongst these guys as scum. Are you sure you want to identify yourself publically as such?

Hehehe...it's a game for Titus Flavius sake...stop making more of this than what it is..seriously.    Some of you are such drama queens.  

This particular set of behaviours has nothing to do with a game. It is emotional torture. It is depraved. Kids play 'games' all the time that we adults actually call 'bullying'. Bullying behaviour can result in things like suicide.

If someone goes through this and then kills themselves, is it still a game to you?

So...are you saying that games shouldn't be played by mentally unstable people?

That's pretty cold.

 

That's just as bad as saying minority groups shouldn't be playing games because people might harass them with racial/bigotry slurs.

 

Can you not see what you are saying is morally wrong?

Huh?  Are you equating me to saying that I am some how discriminating against a group of people because "I" posed the question to someone else?

  Akerbeltz

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3/28/14 4:32:49 AM#33
Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Akerbeltz
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Yeah yeah..when everything else fails hide behind 'its just a game' excuse. 

 

Oh yeah, because we are in front of a drama only comparable to domestic violence, Guantamo tortures or school bullying.

 

All this matter is of such triviality that boggles my mind to no-end the hysteria, hyperbole and fetish hate against EVE shown by the hollow drama queens here. It's in fact as trivial as:

 

- Erotica 1, one of the most popular scammers, information about him all over the EVE chats/forums and the internet.

- Sohkar had used Erotica 1's services previously. The latter had effectively doubled the former's investments.

- Sohkar did bite again when Erotica 1 selected him for the Bonus Round, an alleged unique opportunity to 5x his investments. Sohkar was greedy and consented.

- So Sohkar passed a huge amount of assets over to Erotica 1, just like that. The latter then told Sohkar to read funny stuff and sing songs. Sohkar had faith and consented to this.

- Sohkar got tired, lost control and went into a psychopathic display full of racial slurs, obscenities and real-life threats.

- Jester Trek, who has personal interest and personal animosity towards Erotica 1, writes a sensationalistic article on his blog. 

- Sohkar calmed down, got conscious of the scene he had made and apologized.

 

Keep on with the witch-hunting you tabloid feeders.

Better than being a bottom feeder.

And i don't think you understand the term 'witch hunting'. The actions and behaviour of the guy is on display for everyone to witness. There is no need for witch hunting in this case.

Yes it was Sohkar's own fault that he got scammed. But what you and others keep ignoring is that it isn't just about scam. Try to separate the two issues here and you might be able to understand what actually caused people to get angry.

Or...don't and continue with your one sided defense rants. 

I am done either way because i am actually physically repulsed by this.

Correct, it's about a guy getting scammed and ridiculed by a bunch of bastards because he consciously got into it.

 

He wasn't cornered or isolated, he wasn't forced into that decision, he could have logged off at any moment when the reading started. He didn't do so, he even neglected his wife.

 

The reaction of the sensationalistic crowd here is basically a tale of immaturity and not accepting nor respecting  responsibility for one's actions. You are gonna make mistakes and come across bastards, scammers and evil people in all aspects of life. From your workplace, to a game of poker, to an EVE session.

 

Personally, I believe that the ones that accept the above, deal with it and try to learn, tend to be better people and have more moral integrity. The rest tend to be hypocrite man-children  with double-edge morals that blame others for one's mistakes and who have an inclination towards paternalistic/totalitarian political regimes, all the while taking advantage of others' disgraces to promote their personal/political agendas.

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

  RollieJoe

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Posts: 399

3/28/14 4:37:14 AM#34
All I have to say is that mentally unstable people should not play multiplayer video games.  I see the same kind of rage in MOBA games every day.  These people should not be allowed to have internet access.
  RollieJoe

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3/28/14 4:38:31 AM#35
Originally posted by Akerbeltz

Correct, it's about a guy getting scammed and ridiculed by a bunch of bastards because he consciously got into it.

 

He wasn't cornered or isolated, he wasn't forced into that decision, he could have logged off at any moment when the reading started. He didn't do so, he even neglected his wife.

 

The reaction of the sensationalistic crowd here is basically a tale of immaturity and not accepting nor respecting  responsibility for one's actions. You come across bastards, scammers and evil people in all aspects of life. From your workplace, to a game of poker, to an EVE session.

 

Personally, I believe that the ones that accept the above, deal with it and try to learn, tend to be better people and have more moral integrity. The rest tend to be hypocrite man-children  with double-edge morals that blame others for one's mistakes and who have an inclination towards paternalistic/totalitarian political regimes, all the while taking advantage of others' disgraces to promote their personal/political agendas.

This is one of the most intelligent posts I've ever read on these forums.

  Teala

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OP  3/28/14 4:45:19 AM#36
Originally posted by Akerbeltz
Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by Akerbeltz
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Yeah yeah..when everything else fails hide behind 'its just a game' excuse. 

 

Oh yeah, because we are in front of a drama only comparable to domestic violence, Guantamo tortures or school bullying.

 

All this matter is of such triviality that boggles my mind to no-end the hysteria, hyperbole and fetish hate against EVE shown by the hollow drama queens here. It's in fact as trivial as:

 

- Erotica 1, one of the most popular scammers, information about him all over the EVE chats/forums and the internet.

- Sohkar had used Erotica 1's services previously. The latter had effectively doubled the former's investments.

- Sohkar did bite again when Erotica 1 selected him for the Bonus Round, an alleged unique opportunity to 5x his investments. Sohkar was greedy and consented.

- So Sohkar passed a huge amount of assets over to Erotica 1, just like that. The latter then told Sohkar to read funny stuff and sing songs. Sohkar had faith and consented to this.

- Sohkar got tired, lost control and went into a psychopathic display full of racial slurs, obscenities and real-life threats.

- Jester Trek, who has personal interest and personal animosity towards Erotica 1, writes a sensationalistic article on his blog. 

- Sohkar calmed down, got conscious of the scene he had made and apologized.

 

Keep on with the witch-hunting you tabloid feeders.

Better than being a bottom feeder.

And i don't think you understand the term 'witch hunting'. The actions and behaviour of the guy is on display for everyone to witness. There is no need for witch hunting in this case.

Yes it was Sohkar's own fault that he got scammed. But what you and others keep ignoring is that it isn't just about scam. Try to separate the two issues here and you might be able to understand what actually caused people to get angry.

Or...don't and continue with your one sided defense rants. 

I am done either way because i am actually physically repulsed by this.

Correct, it's about a guy getting scammed and ridiculed by a bunch of bastards because he consciously got into it.

 

He wasn't cornered or isolated, he wasn't forced into that decision, he could have logged off at any moment when the reading started. He didn't do so, he even neglected his wife.

 

The reaction of the sensationalistic crowd here is basically a tale of immaturity and not accepting nor respecting  responsibility for one's actions. You are gonna make mistakes and come across bastards, scammers and evil people in all aspects of life. From your workplace, to a game of poker, to an EVE session.

 

Personally, I believe that the ones that accept the above, deal with it and try to learn, tend to be better people and have more moral integrity. The rest tend to be hypocrite man-children  with double-edge morals that blame others for one's mistakes and who have an inclination towards paternalistic/totalitarian political regimes, all the while taking advantage of others' disgraces to promote their personal/political agendas.

  With this...I'm going to go blast the hell out of mine enemies in the skies over WWII Europe!  

BTW here is a really cool War Thunder Video I made - seriously...its cool.   Enjoy the carnage!

B17's Over Berlin!  Be sure to watch in HD...it's awesome!

  kaiser3282

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3/28/14 4:54:26 AM#37
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Raven322
Originally posted by Teala

For those that were so upset and irrational about the scamming incident that recently came to light, from a blog post >>> here: Jester Treck.  Turns out that Sohkar, the guy that got scammed says that everything is cool...that he realized he made a stupid mistake and fell for it...then went on to apologize for his behavior...admitting he was tired and "just lost his cool" over being scammed and was more upset with himself that he had done such a stupid thing.      He says he was no "victim" of torture or anything of the sort and he wishes people would stop saying that.

He never wished this to be made into such a big deal...turns out this article was made by an EVE CSM that has an issue with a few players in EVE and he figured if he wrote about this incident he would garner people to his cause.   Sohkar was never a part of it...this CSM did it on his own accord without Sohkar's concent.  Well it now seems to have backfired and people are requesting that the CSM be removed.    Funny that.

Sohkar by they way managed to get back up on his feet, in game, in a couple of days after the incident- when he made 300m ISK from a salvage job.

If you think I am BS'n you and this is all made up...you can hear a live chat on Twitch TV right now between Sohkar and Erotica1. 

Live Twitch Chat Happening now.

I'm struggling to understand your reasoning behind wanting to defend and assist these scumbags.

It's a natural human response to traumatic incidents to downplay them and want it to just go away. Ask any woman who has been assaulted. These guys are pure bred 100% scumbags and their behaviour is the lowest possible denominator we have. Condoning this is beyond belief.

Crowing that in fact the guy who blew the whistle on this behaviour may himself be in trouble over this places you exactly amongst these guys as scum. Are you sure you want to identify yourself publically as such?

Hehehe...it's a game for Titus Flavius sake...stop making more of this than what it is..seriously.    Some of you are such drama queens.  

This particular set of behaviours has nothing to do with a game. It is emotional torture. It is depraved. Kids play 'games' all the time that we adults actually call 'bullying'. Bullying behaviour can result in things like suicide.

If someone goes through this and then kills themselves, is it still a game to you?

So...are you saying that games shouldn't be played by mentally unstable people?

No I am saying human beings should not treat each other this way. In your previous comment you mentioned games don't affect real life.

Ask all the women beaten by their drunk husbands after their football team loses if games affect real life.

Your inability to realise that these kinds of actions can absolutely have very very real consequences in the 'real' world shows just how out of touch with others you really are. People have emotions, games affect those emotions. Those emotions are carried over into the 'real' world. Often with 'real' consequences.

Your little buddies have no idea whether their victim is unstable or not. They cannot control that. What the can control is the entire scenario that sets someone off. To knowingly do it, is at best, 'bullying' and at worst, which this case most certainly is, 'actual torture'.

I'm now done replying to you, you're clearly quite immature and incapable of seeing this situation beyond your lens of 'I like this game' therefore no-one else should criticise it as it might impinge on me. It's selfish, but hopefully you will one day grow up and recognise this behaviour for what it is.

 

Watching you post is extremely amusing.

So that drunk wife beater wouldn't have hit his wife if not for the football game? It was all a consequence of the game happening, not a consequence of him being a shitbag to begin with?

If someone is unstable, abusive, etc they're going to be that way regardless of what does or doesnt happen in a game. Someone doesnt beat his wife "because" their football team lost. They do it because they're an abusive asshole. Someone doesn't kill themselves "because" something happened to them in a video game. They do it because they were unstable to begin with.

It's just like the accusations of "gaming" being the cause of death of some of these people who are obese, lack any sort of real nutrition, get very little sleep, no exercise, and live on energy drinks and fast food then "suddenly" have heart attacks and stuff. The obsessive gaming is just a symptom of other underlying issues and lack of self control, not the cause of it.

BTW, this guy, as he himself said, knowingly submitted himself to this and it was stupid of him. He was not "tortured". He did it to himself. He could have simply accepted his losses, logged out and been done with it. He was not forced into anything. He put himself through it in the hopes of gaining something.

By your logic, anyone who competes in gameshows / contests (survivor, fear factor, any number of similar shows) is being tortured. Thats idiotic. Theyre not being forced into it. They are doing it to themselves out of greed. They never had to put themselves int hat position, and can walk away any time it gets to be too much.

You people are acting like this guy was forcibly raped at gunpoint or something. You REALLY need a reality check.

I'm just glad some of these folks aren't the lawmakers and moral compass for the rest of us. Then again, I guess if they were I could go beat the hell out of my wife and kids whenever I feel like it, or go stab random strangers repeatedly and take their wallets and say "It isn't my fault. World of Warcraft made me do it" and I wouldn't even get arrested. I mean come on, I'm no threat to anyone due to my own mental state or lack of morals. It's all just a direct consequence of a game right?

  lizardbones

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3/28/14 5:43:53 AM#38

This is a little more complex than just, "no harm, no foul".  Nobody was physically harmed, and maybe somebody learned a lesson.  More than one lesson maybe.  That may not excuse the behavior.

 

Someone brought up Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment in the other thread, and I'm going to use that here.  We learned a lot of stuff from that experiment, and everyone involved in the experiment stated that they were not sorry they participated, including the guy who had a literal mental breakdown.  That doesn't mean it was OK, and the experiment has never been repeated because of the results.  Sometimes the only way to know where the line is, is by stepping across it.

 

First, we have to allow that scamming, murder, theft, etc. are all allowed within the context of the game.  If Eve were an alien culture full of immortal beings and limited resources to police their frontier, this makes sense.  Murder and loss of property are all things that wash out over time so there's not really much point in expending all the resources to police them.  So, moving on past the accepted cultural norms, we ask a couple of questions.

 

Did the scammers step across a line by their behavior, regardless of the end result?  Not the scam mind you, but the aggressive and for lack of a better word, "Trolling" nature of the encouter.

 

Did the person who released the encounter step across a line, regardless of the end result?

 

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  Uhwop

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3/28/14 5:56:34 AM#39

I thought it was common knowledge that EVEnews24 was nothing more than an outlet for a few people to rant about the big bads of EVE online; it's a garbage site. 

Honestly, the people that got upset over this weren't actually EVE players and only use stories like this to disparage the community.  Hence the original thread about this scam. 

  Distopia

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3/28/14 5:57:35 AM#40
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Teala
 

If that is truly how you feel about games, maybe you shouldn't play them.   I mean, seriously...you and some others must really be a sad lot if games effect you that much.   So how often to you go all raging when you die in a game - all the time or just once in awhile?

What's hilarious is people are talking about how things like this can have an effect on people in really real ways, yet here you are still beating your chest like it's some form of forum PVP.  Again Victim or not is irrelevant it's the behavior that's a problem, left unchecked this kind of behavior can lead to terrible things, it's more or less a fact of life in this day and age. Are you blind to that or just extremely stubborn for nothing more than the sake of forum image?

OMG...yes, scamming people in the game if EVE will lead to a life of crime and who knows what else in the real world.    I think Iceland needs to shut down CCP and close EVE down now before something terrible happens!  Who knows what twisted deprived things will happen to gamers minds if they play EVE!

 

 Scamming is a part of EVE,  within the confines of the game it is okay, who cares about that. To think this has anything to do with sandbox game play is completely missing the point here. There's a line even in meta one shouldn't cross, they seem to have gone far beyond that line. More of this ignorant chest thumping I see. It's ridiculous to not see where people draw the line and what people are taking issue with here.

 this is really your argument? Blah, shut eve down, blahh? really?

 

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