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  Avul

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3/19/14 4:26:14 AM#41
Originally posted by Kinado

1.Cartoony look doesn't make it like WoW I'm sorry. Games are about gameplay. Otherwise every asian game is the same crap since they all look the same. Doesn't work that way.

[...]

2.In my opinion Wildstar is a much more complete game, that's a fact, you can do a lot of more stuff with the sub that you are paying. More bang for the buck, plus you can buy play time with your in-game gold. If you do things right you ll probably won't have to pay every month to play which can make the sub to be half the price if you can manage. Or free.

[...]

3.It's easy to see which company is the greediest, specially with a inferior game all things accounted for. But in the end is matter of taste and wallet size.

1. Gameplay-wise WildStar isn't World of Warcraft at all. That is true and a good thing for WS! But you have to admit that it still feels like WoW all over again - even with the action combat. I played WoW just for a couple of months in 2005 or 2006 and I had a total flashback with WS. Not just the graphics are alike. Same boring quest design (kill 10 bears and collect their hides), same hand holding (no exploration but an arrow which is leading to the specific area and quest markers all over the map), similar areas (I mean.. for a SciFi MMO there are many areas which would perfectly fit in a pure fantasy MMO - even the Mobs are space-bears, space-wolves, space-birds.. not that many real aliens at all), fantasy currency (Gold, Silver, Platinum), small details like mailboxes instead of drones, dungeons feel like a tweaked version of some WoW instances etc. I could expand that list if you want. It's not necessarily a bad thing. If you liked WoW back in the days.. you will like WS as well. But saying they've got not many things in common.. is just wrong.

2. I beg to differ. Yes, WildStar has all in all more features like housing, different forms of PVP (battleground, arenas, duelling) or raids. But that doesn't make it the more complete game. In my opinion the game feels cluttered. Housing is more of a mini-game. It's fun but it feels very disconnected due to the instanced zone. Then there's a multitude of PVE content but at the end of the day it's just named differently (shiphands, dungeons and adventures are basically all the same.. just for different sizes - and the choices in adventures aren't that groundbreaking). PVP has nothing to do with the rest of the game as well.. it's just fighting in small instanced areas. PVP in ESO feels more connected.. every faction got its "homeland territory" and the big area in the middle is contested. WildStar doesn't feel complete to me.. more like a mixed bag of mini-games and standard features. Again.. this isn't a bad thing. It depends on what you like. If you don't need immersion and a reason behind all the different aspects.. WildStar could be a good choice.

3. Time will tell. While I really dislike some of the decisions of Zenimax (Imperial paygate, horse in a cash shop) Carbine has nothing proven yet. They made some strange decisions as well (drop the NDA and immediately stop the beta => just 4 beta weekends left while the performance of the game is really, really bad at the moment) and also said that at some point there could be a item cash shop as well (if WildStar fails and goes f2p maybe? If you don't believe me.. here's a German interview with CRB_Bronn: http://www.wildstar-arkship.de/news/ama-mit-community-manager-bronn-release-lokalisierung-gameplay-und-vieles-mehr/8234/ - quote: "Zum Release wird es auf jeden Fall keinen Itemshop geben! Aber im Endeffekt kann es immer sein, dass irgendwann eine solche Sache kommt"). I wouldn't be surprised if Carbine has some back-up plan with a f2p model and a cash shop. Maybe ESO goes f2p as well.. who knows? We'll see.. but don't judge them right now. That's unfair!

 

  Mothanos

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3/19/14 4:34:35 AM#42

Wildstar +10
Seeing that my bet wow time was in Vanila + TBC expansion and that all these devs worked on that masterpiece is for me without a doubt a promise of qaulity gaming.

You can say you dont like its cartoon style, but once you play it you get used to it in no time.
ESO is to frustrating and outdated in my opinion, not to mention the horrible target system and greed from Zenimax.

Defently Wildstar :)

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  Phertias

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3/19/14 4:59:38 AM#43

You should just ignore all "I have tried WS for 1 hour and deleted it" because the first hour of gameplay is really not representative. The Wildstar "first hour" is boring as hell, but when you get off the damn ship, the game gets 100 times more interesting and fun. I have tried ESO (and I am NOT a fan of the ES games, so I am not influenced by being a fanboy) 

 

ESO is a real open world with neat quests, clunky combat (comeon, its like Rift all over again) and a various of options to do. I think it is a game that succeeds in what it tries. To be an Elder Scrolls Online. Open world, nice story, PvP... end of story. The questing however is so easy, I have never been so handheld in my entire life of MMORPG´s (and I have played everything on the list) 

Wildstar is for people who like(d) WoW, but need something new that still has that "WoW feeling" that all MMORPGs have been trying to crave. WIldstar is the first game to succeed in that. While questing is rather...meh..., combat is fun, dungeons are the best dungeons I have ever tried, PvP is so hard because not only do you have to dogde enemy skillshots and kite yourself into your healers, you also never know what spells the others are using due to the Limited Action Set. Wildstar is about adapting your gameplay into the environment and that makes it more dynamic than any other game.

 

Conclusion:

ESO is for ES fanboys who enjoys the ES universe and an open world with few linear structures

Wildstar is for the MMO player who miss hardcore mechanics, a WoW-like world and enjoys dynamic fighting.

 

For me. Wildstar wins. Because I miss the "WoW feeling" and after trying +30 MMORPGs, I have finally found it.

  Gilllean

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3/19/14 5:09:26 AM#44
OMG !! realy you need to know what this kids on mmorpg think in order to decide what game to play ? you don't have your own head ? low self esteem ? don't listen to any one !! follow you're heart  people how follow their heart call are much happier than those that heavenly base on logic !
  Kyleran

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3/19/14 5:09:46 AM#45
Chutes and Ladders or Candyland, whichever you prefer. I went with ESO.

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  Avul

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3/19/14 5:15:35 AM#46
Originally posted by Phertias

You should just ignore all "I have tried WS for 1 hour and deleted it" because the first hour of gameplay is really not representative. The Wildstar "first hour" is boring as hell, but when you get off the damn ship, the game gets 100 times more interesting and fun. I have tried ESO (and I am NOT a fan of the ES games, so I am not influenced by being a fanboy) 

 [...]

Conclusion:

ESO is for ES fanboys who enjoys the ES universe and an open world with few linear structures

Wildstar is for the MMO player who miss hardcore mechanics, a WoW-like world and enjoys dynamic fighting.

 

For me. Wildstar wins. Because I miss the "WoW feeling" and after trying +30 MMORPGs, I have finally found it.

I love people like you who are saying that you have to be a fanboy to like a certain game.. such a grown-up argumentation. I just played Morrowind (no Oblivion, no Skyrim) back in the days.. never been a fan of the Elder Scrolls games and nevertheless had a blast in the beta. On the other hand I was cheering 2 years for WildStar (GamesCom 2011) until I finally had the chance to play it. Well.. I've got a lvl 50 Engineer (Exile), lvl 24 Stalker (Dominion) and lvl 14 Medic (Exile) and although I invested a lot of time playing it.. I deleted it 2-3 weeks ago because in the end it bored me to death. The questing experience is so tedious. I thought "Elder game will be cool and fun and all.. let's get through the shitty part". I was wrong. It's the same instanced standard like all other MMORPGs (I don't know ESO's endgame though.. just got to lvl 14). But you know.. that's just my opinion.

  LisaFlexy22

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3/19/14 5:26:21 AM#47

Very polarizing games and different types of crowds going for each one.  It seems quite rare for someone to be into both games.

Wildstar is attracting the wow crowd (current and especially ones who want more of a vanilla wow type of experience). Very typical wow style themepark with instanced pvp battlegrounds, large raids, quest hub level experience with generic quests, rep grinds, wow type graphics, fast paced combat.  If you liked WOW and want more of it but a fresh start go with Wildstar.

ESO if you want a more slow paced immersive lore/story heavy themepark.  Also ESO if you want big open world DAOC style PvP.  This game seems to be attracting the older school crowd a bit more than Wildstar. 

  SpottyGekko

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3/19/14 6:07:53 AM#48

These two games are very different. However, if you've played a beta weekend for both of them and you haven't "fallen in love" with either of them, then it's a really tricky proposition...

 

What kind of game play do you really enjoy in your MMO's ?

Fast, non-stop action with lots of colours and sounds and dozens of little "mini-games" ? Then Wildstar is your game.

Slower paced, more story-oriented with a "realistic" art style and great PVP options ? Then go for ESO.

 

I find Wildstar too "gamey" for my liking. It's very "busy", like watching a solid hour of Cartoon Network. Great fun while it lasts, but irritating in large doses. If you enjoy watching Cartoon Network all day, you'll most likely love Wildstar.

 

ESO has lower mob density than WS, so the emphasis is not "nonstop action". Theres more story and plenty of lore snippets that you can actually read. It tries to be more of a "virtual world" than Wildstar, which also means the colour palette is far more muted. Unlike WS, ESO does not have an endgame epic raid focus. ESO 's endgame is more solo and small group oriented on the PVE side, with solid RVR PVP component as well.

  Thorgor

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3/19/14 6:10:53 AM#49

With early access ... TESO starts on 30th March and Wildstar starts on 31st May

 

So I have about 2 month time to play TESO. That should be enough time to reach highest level and play some endgame content. Then I'll switch to Wildstar and I'll also play it for about 2 month to reach endgame content.

 

After both two month sessions I'll decide if I spend more time with one or both of those two games. It could also mean that a third new game wins out by that time (ArchAge or the new WoW addon are lurking at the horizon).

  LisaFlexy22

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3/19/14 6:10:58 AM#50
  Teh_Axi

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3/19/14 11:21:26 AM#51
Originally posted by Darwa

For me, the important parts of an MMORPG are combat, crafting, and the ability to walk my own path. 

So why did you buy ESO???

  Krayfish

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3/19/14 11:27:51 AM#52
I ended up getting both, honestly I am doubtful if I will stay long with either but I want to give them a fair shot first. I did play in both betas and neither games made me say 'that was so amazing I want to get naked' but I am sure at launch the feeling will be different. The feeling that it is just beta so there really isn't that much point in investing crazy amounts of time was constantly there for me so I guess that was why. Some might not agree with my way of thinking, but I have nothing better to spend my money on, I don't drink I don't smoke and my wife only wants the odd diamond here and there so I am wiling to give both a good go.

  archeageking

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3/19/14 11:34:12 AM#53

wildstar and archeage.

 

ESO is filled with gamebreaking bugs  all over the place from last open beta, ESO is  heading toward iceberg as we speak.

eso is pretty much DOA when it launches, eso is bug ridden piece of ****.

 

Also 4 imperial edition from amazon like the collector's edition is canceled and 2 regular edition is also canceled from my circle of friends. those collector's edition that cost $150 is canceled from 4 of my buddies after they experienced that final open beta out of eso. 

  Nithir

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3/19/14 11:45:27 AM#54

Grabbing both myself. ESO gives me the TES itch i need and the first person combat i like. 

 

Wildstar gives me awesome housing and a great Space-Western theme. 

 

They both gives me different kinds of exploration that i like so i don't see why i should pick one over the other.

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  dirtyd77

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Your "best"! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

3/19/14 11:47:46 AM#55

I have tried both and given both a fair shake.  I actually like both games however....

I just canceled my ESO pre-order yesterday ... not so much based off of anything game play related.  It was due to the fact that I have made a decision that going forward I am not going to support any game that tries to go with a Hybrid sub + cash shop model.  It is a personal decision but one that I have decided to put my money where my mouth is. 

I have pre-ordered Wildstar this morning it is a fun game ( as someone who only played WOW for about 3 months when BC came out) and is a breath of fresh air with the approach they are taking.  I will say this I am fine with them selling game time that can be sold in game. If it goes beyond that... I will bail on them to. 

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