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  Elikal

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Joined: 2/09/06
Posts: 8067

“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth

 
OP  3/15/14 10:09:13 PM#1

Believe it or not, but I was seriously positive when the beta weekend started. No seriously.

But now... dammit, BOTH characters I created this weekend are STUCK and I can't even proceed with them!

My Woodelf I made for Daggerfall has a quest stopper in Stros MKai, because the chest doesn't spawn. And YES I tried the relog. Many times. Nothing.

My Imperial in Auridion had 2-3 quests I simply could not finish because the NPCs or boss mobs didn't spawn. At all! And HOW the heck can that be, two weeks before release? Those are early starter quests! Isn't a simple boss spawn a simple mechanic, a game SHOULD handle by now?

 

But what really just topped it all was - again - Doshia. It's that boss mob in the solo instance. Now ZOS PROMISED they made those boss mobs easier. Now I KNOW the mechanics. She heals herself with orbs. But in the Dominion variant, for some reason, she just summons endless undead minions. Which she never does in the Daggerfall or Ebonheart variant. And I simply COULD NOT defeat her. With the exorbitant repair cost, I just lost half the meager money I had and I accomplished NOTHING. I am so angry and frustrated now, because to top it all we still just CAN'T take in a friend to help!

HOW THE HELL CAN THAT MAKE SENSE IN A MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER GAME!

That's just absurd! Ok, make the bosses difficult if you must, but the heaven's sake, this is a MMO! Allow us to bring a friend!

 

I am just so outraged! I really want to give ESO a chance. Just believe me I am *no* hater. But I am just sick and tired of these FORCE solo dungeons and my patience already was worn out by about 6-7 quests which were SO bugged I could not finish them! TWO WEEKS BEFORE RELEASE!

This is just not right!

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  rojoArcueid

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Joined: 8/13/09
Posts: 5898

"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

3/15/14 10:16:21 PM#2

i killed Doshia in the dominion side during the previous beta and i dont remember the endless minion spawn (maybe they added that this weekend? no idea). I died a few times until i realized that killing the health orbs was the way to go. I just ran around shooting the orbs and she died really fast. But yeah it was annoying, but i hope more boss fights are tough. Easy boss fights only hurt the game more making it even more inclined towards solo which makes no sense in an mmo

 

Edit: They do need, they MUST allow everyone to group in and share quests. Fix phasing and all that.

  Distopia

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Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 16185

"what a boring life, HATING everything" -Gorilla Biscuits

3/15/14 10:19:34 PM#3

It's hard to believe you could be let down after so many "I was let down" posts about ESO (kinda like crying wolf in my op). Anyway as for being stuck, keep trying I just had to relog about 6 times for the hagraven boss to respawn, my third beta weekend here haven't been stuck on a single quest, they all have eventually worked.

The last time I noticed I was transferred between a number of phases for the boss, some would have two to three sitting around waiting, others would have 10 or so, the last log had no one and worked.

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  Bad.dog

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Joined: 5/20/10
Posts: 1159

3/15/14 10:21:14 PM#4
I think the games just to hard for you ...the lack of mini maps , the long running in AvA , all the problems you are having with the quests , sometimes you just have to face the fact you just can't adapt to a new game ,
  rain.bird

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Joined: 3/14/14
Posts: 16

3/15/14 10:22:29 PM#5
or face up to the idea that this beta is full of bugs which is turning people off ... and so close to release what is one to think ?
  Elikal

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Joined: 2/09/06
Posts: 8067

“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth

 
OP  3/15/14 10:22:44 PM#6
Originally posted by Bad.dog
I think the games just to hard for you ...the lack of mini maps , the long running in AvA , all the problems you are having with the quests , sometimes you just have to face the fact you just can't adapt to a new game ,

That may be so. But there is NO justification to make a MMO and FORCE people to solo something! Why do you make a MMORPG and then NOT allow people to bring friends?! That's just absurd!

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  obake90

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Joined: 1/30/13
Posts: 60

GOD WILLS IT!!!

3/15/14 10:27:35 PM#7
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Bad.dog
I think the games just to hard for you ...the lack of mini maps , the long running in AvA , all the problems you are having with the quests , sometimes you just have to face the fact you just can't adapt to a new game ,

That may be so. But there is NO justification to make a MMO and FORCE people to solo something! Why do you make a MMORPG and then NOT allow people to bring friends?! That's just absurd!

I agree, if its a MMO why force people to solo and not allow to bring friends.

 

besides that I really like the games, it has a different feel to it... take your time and enjoy your toon, its not about rushing to level 50.

  Braindome

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Joined: 12/06/11
Posts: 657

3/15/14 10:35:39 PM#8
I prefer tactical and varied deep gameplay mechanics to a gear grind/number crunch and that's all I have to say about that.

Like x 56

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 4252

3/15/14 10:40:33 PM#9
Originally posted by Elikal

Believe it or not, but I was seriously positive when the beta weekend started. No seriously.

But now... dammit, BOTH characters I created this weekend are STUCK and I can't even proceed with them!

My Woodelf I made for Daggerfall has a quest stopper in Stros MKai, because the chest doesn't spawn. And YES I tried the relog. Many times. Nothing.

My Imperial in Auridion had 2-3 quests I simply could not finish because the NPCs or boss mobs didn't spawn. At all! And HOW the heck can that be, two weeks before release? Those are early starter quests! Isn't a simple boss spawn a simple mechanic, a game SHOULD handle by now?

 

But what really just topped it all was - again - Doshia. It's that boss mob in the solo instance. Now ZOS PROMISED they made those boss mobs easier. Now I KNOW the mechanics. She heals herself with orbs. But in the Dominion variant, for some reason, she just summons endless undead minions. Which she never does in the Daggerfall or Ebonheart variant. And I simply COULD NOT defeat her. With the exorbitant repair cost, I just lost half the meager money I had and I accomplished NOTHING. I am so angry and frustrated now, because to top it all we still just CAN'T take in a friend to help!

HOW THE HELL CAN THAT MAKE SENSE IN A MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER GAME!

That's just absurd! Ok, make the bosses difficult if you must, but the heaven's sake, this is a MMO! Allow us to bring a friend!

 

I am just so outraged! I really want to give ESO a chance. Just believe me I am *no* hater. But I am just sick and tired of these FORCE solo dungeons and my patience already was worn out by about 6-7 quests which were SO bugged I could not finish them! TWO WEEKS BEFORE RELEASE!

This is just not right!

I believe the beta is running off a build from several weeks ago. If it is, you shouldn't judge how far until the release is and being disappointed about it. This is a beta for goodness sake! :)

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  Distopia

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Joined: 11/22/05
Posts: 16185

"what a boring life, HATING everything" -Gorilla Biscuits

3/15/14 10:42:40 PM#10
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Elikal

Believe it or not, but I was seriously positive when the beta weekend started. No seriously.

But now... dammit, BOTH characters I created this weekend are STUCK and I can't even proceed with them!

My Woodelf I made for Daggerfall has a quest stopper in Stros MKai, because the chest doesn't spawn. And YES I tried the relog. Many times. Nothing.

My Imperial in Auridion had 2-3 quests I simply could not finish because the NPCs or boss mobs didn't spawn. At all! And HOW the heck can that be, two weeks before release? Those are early starter quests! Isn't a simple boss spawn a simple mechanic, a game SHOULD handle by now?

 

But what really just topped it all was - again - Doshia. It's that boss mob in the solo instance. Now ZOS PROMISED they made those boss mobs easier. Now I KNOW the mechanics. She heals herself with orbs. But in the Dominion variant, for some reason, she just summons endless undead minions. Which she never does in the Daggerfall or Ebonheart variant. And I simply COULD NOT defeat her. With the exorbitant repair cost, I just lost half the meager money I had and I accomplished NOTHING. I am so angry and frustrated now, because to top it all we still just CAN'T take in a friend to help!

HOW THE HELL CAN THAT MAKE SENSE IN A MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER GAME!

That's just absurd! Ok, make the bosses difficult if you must, but the heaven's sake, this is a MMO! Allow us to bring a friend!

 

I am just so outraged! I really want to give ESO a chance. Just believe me I am *no* hater. But I am just sick and tired of these FORCE solo dungeons and my patience already was worn out by about 6-7 quests which were SO bugged I could not finish them! TWO WEEKS BEFORE RELEASE!

This is just not right!

I believe the beta is running off a build from several weeks ago. If it is, you shouldn't judge how far until the release is and being disappointed about it. This is a beta for goodness sake! :)

It's a new build. As far as I know, pretty sure collision is in.

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 6792

3/15/14 10:43:09 PM#11

So many bugs in Cyrodiil this weekend - ugh

1. Transparent/invisible walls ok keeps - you see people waking on AIR - also siege engines in AIR - because the wall is completely see-through/invisible. you can also see enemies behind the wall - lol.

2. Rubberbanding - haven't seen it this bad, just lots of snapping back - especially behind doors. 

3. Flying forward at SUPER HIGH SPEED - this is a first time I've experienced this bug personally - I was on a keep wall defending - then I ran forward and I just flew about 400-500 yards through the air *behind enemy lines* - like seriously?? - Complete WTF moment - I was so far behind them, they didn't even attack me.

If I saw an enemy player doing that I'd report them for hacking  - now I know first hand that the game can just freak and fling you forward direction that's REALLY far (like 50x extended chain range)

4. Sliding enemy players that can't be targetted at about 5% health - usually stuck in a weird half/dead animation - but moving around the map, obviously still alive

 

Just lots of F'd up bugs - wasn't like this last weekend.

Me thinks this one needs more bake time before it's ready.

 

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 4252

3/15/14 10:59:49 PM#12
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Amjoco
I believe the beta is running off a build from several weeks ago. If it is, you shouldn't judge how far until the release is and being disappointed about it. This is a beta for goodness sake! :)

It's a new build. As far as I know, pretty sure collision is in.

Oh, I also thought the game had collision in it but it was disabled. Perhaps it was just enabled this weekend. /shrug

Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.

  AzurePrower

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Joined: 3/18/07
Posts: 1546

Ahh yes, "Hypers." The people who praise and hate every MMORPG... We've dismissed that claim.

3/16/14 6:37:33 AM#13

See quote on left side.

 

Nothing breeds haters faster than hyping people to disappointment. I tried my best to derail the hype train.

 

But the cycle continues.

  Lord.Bachus

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Joined: 5/14/07
Posts: 8966

I believe in life before death... So dont forget to enjoy it while you still can.

3/16/14 6:48:32 AM#14

There is two kind of people on these boards (and in the world), those that see a cup as being half filled and those that see a cup as being half  empty... Currently nobody can see how much water there actually is inside the cup, we will know in a few months

 

these two kinds of people will allmost never agree. I am of the possitive type of people, that only see opportunitees about how to refill or fill up the cup.  In the end we might get dissapointed, but for the time being we had some great time and fun and enjoyed the stuff that actually was in the cup. And by the time a cup gets empty, we allready have found us a new cup to dream about.. 

 

I know what type of people have happier lives, you too?

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  Spiider

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Joined: 2/15/05
Posts: 457

3/16/14 6:49:58 AM#15

There are two kinds of people in this world:

1. Those that would pay for alpha version of a game

2. Those who don't want to pay for unfinished products and hate being lab rats

I guess the rest is irrelevant to discuss.

No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.

  muthax

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Joined: 11/15/05
Posts: 618

3/16/14 6:59:28 AM#16

Doshia and the other Guild Quest Line Bosses have to be soloed, can't be grouped, because it's a test and honestly because if you can't figure out how to defeat them, maybe you wanna stick to easier content. Guild Quests are optional.

For the rest, I really hope people who are so frustrated in life to behave like this about a game, eventually find peace

  LordZeik

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Joined: 2/17/08
Posts: 209

3/16/14 7:03:38 AM#17
Heck the lag in pvp at times was a letdown. But, understandable when a good 50-60% of the population are just there taking up space hoping the game either goes f2p or waiting for a different game to go into beta. I'm waiting for launch to hit. Will give the game the standard 30 days to see if it up to par or not. Can't really judge it too much with what we currently have or didn't have.
  mbrodie

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Joined: 5/15/04
Posts: 823

3/16/14 7:06:02 AM#18
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Elikal

Believe it or not, but I was seriously positive when the beta weekend started. No seriously.

But now... dammit, BOTH characters I created this weekend are STUCK and I can't even proceed with them!

My Woodelf I made for Daggerfall has a quest stopper in Stros MKai, because the chest doesn't spawn. And YES I tried the relog. Many times. Nothing.

My Imperial in Auridion had 2-3 quests I simply could not finish because the NPCs or boss mobs didn't spawn. At all! And HOW the heck can that be, two weeks before release? Those are early starter quests! Isn't a simple boss spawn a simple mechanic, a game SHOULD handle by now?

 

But what really just topped it all was - again - Doshia. It's that boss mob in the solo instance. Now ZOS PROMISED they made those boss mobs easier. Now I KNOW the mechanics. She heals herself with orbs. But in the Dominion variant, for some reason, she just summons endless undead minions. Which she never does in the Daggerfall or Ebonheart variant. And I simply COULD NOT defeat her. With the exorbitant repair cost, I just lost half the meager money I had and I accomplished NOTHING. I am so angry and frustrated now, because to top it all we still just CAN'T take in a friend to help!

HOW THE HELL CAN THAT MAKE SENSE IN A MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER GAME!

That's just absurd! Ok, make the bosses difficult if you must, but the heaven's sake, this is a MMO! Allow us to bring a friend!

 

I am just so outraged! I really want to give ESO a chance. Just believe me I am *no* hater. But I am just sick and tired of these FORCE solo dungeons and my patience already was worn out by about 6-7 quests which were SO bugged I could not finish them! TWO WEEKS BEFORE RELEASE!

This is just not right!

I believe the beta is running off a build from several weeks ago. If it is, you shouldn't judge how far until the release is and being disappointed about it. This is a beta for goodness sake! :)

 It sure isnt it's the latest build fresh from the PTS.. thats why we had 3GB patch before the weekend... all the bug fixes that were meant to be in, the screwy design they have done with the starter island and tutorial zone.. mob collision, you're basically looking at the most upto date version of the client, which will probably be the client it launches on! i'm a little concerned but w/e

  docminus2

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3/16/14 7:08:07 AM#19

Well, it is a beta after all .... *shrugs*

 

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  Gilllean

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Joined: 1/04/14
Posts: 195

3/16/14 7:08:22 AM#20

This should have been expected TES > ESO have  quite complicated quest  most of mmo are go kill bring and BB here in eso are a lot of variety and scripts are at a higher chance of getting broken ...

I suggest fans just  to believe for best .  I got PST played .... First zones just 1 bug found stopped playing to not spoil release experience ^^.

 

Just don't let you're self controled by this F2P haters flow and haters .... I was banned and was reading forum ... I face palm every time i'm here just don't listen to what whine ppl here...

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