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  iixviiiix

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Posts: 543

3/12/14 7:49:38 AM#121
Originally posted by ikcin
Originally posted by nariusseldon

well, i don't want to play with thousand of others in a virtual persistent world. I prefer good SP content.

So what if everyone goes through the same story content. We do that in SP games that that does not make the good SP games bad. The reality is that everyone who plays Dishonored plays Corvo, and goes through the same story. The story has great gameplay and content .. and since i am not seeing the other guy playing it .. what is the problem?

The same is true for MMO as long as the story is done in an instance, or a phase.

 

So you call it MMO, but you play it as a single player game. SP is bad for MMOs, cause when you play single you don't interact with other players, and the game is not a MMO anymore, at least for you and the people around you. So SP guests and so called single story shall be excluded from the MMO games. Quests shall be replaced by objectives, and players shall compete for rewards.

He prefer (F2P) MMO and play it as single player game because they are free and play as single player game because it keep him from spend money

That's great way to enjoy without much cost , at lest for him.

 

Pretty odd logic : "prefer massive multiplayers online games but solo play it"

 

  sethman75

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Joined: 3/14/13
Posts: 203

3/12/14 7:52:23 AM#122

So you want to take the MMO and the RPG out of the MMORPG genre?

Go and play LoL

 

  UngoHumungo

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I'm here......wheres the fish?

3/12/14 7:54:35 AM#123
Originally posted by doug200463
Game designers need to come up with new ideas when it comes to advancing your character, I have got so sick of the normal MMO grind, more and more levels added, quests holding me in zones, when i just want to move on to another zone.. I have went back to Ultima Online.. where you can explore the whole world w/o having to worry about mobs being over level.. NO MORE LEVELS!!! 

well you are gonna have to do that no matter what game you play, but try TSW the investigation quests set it apart from other games at least in that respect.

There are times when one must ask themselves is it my passion that truly frightens you? Or your own?

  bcbully

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3/12/14 7:59:44 AM#124
All you people who think mmorpgs need questing, try EVE and Wushu today. Both are free to try. Both will change your understanding in a profound way.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  iixviiiix

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Joined: 3/04/13
Posts: 543

3/12/14 8:14:15 AM#125
Originally posted by bcbully
All you people who think mmorpgs need questing, try EVE and Wushu today. Both are free to try. Both will change your understanding in a profound way.

They do need quests/task/mission , what ever you call it.

For example , npc buy a sword for 10 gold > 1 kind of task/quest which require you to bring a sword to NPC to get 10 gold reward.

 

But at less , at less please no more quest to quest to level up .. like .. like .. like wow "clone"

J/K

 

  GeezerGamer

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3/12/14 8:19:37 AM#126

It's been since the evolution of the "WoW End Game" that we have seen this. MMOs before WoW didn't have these concerns. While hitting level cap did cause a shif in player's agendas, it didn't completely alter the entire nature of the game itself.

In current theme parks, you level up as a hero,  the world begins to recognize you as a powerful force. And in fact, you are. Most leveling content is mind numbingly easy, especially in gamess like WoW with the account bound gear. The whole process has been reduced to a "Necessary Evil". Even the developers have taken this approach. They are flirting with the idea of removing it altogether now. 

I've said this before. It comes from a mind set of "playing the game you HAVE to play in order to get to the game you WANT to play" So, now they want to eliminate the "have to play" and only leave the "want to play" games. In one sense, this would be a return to old school. And while I agree that we need to consolidate the 2, I think cutting out one altogether is the wrong approach. MMORPGs will just become PVE versions of what MOBA games are. Multi-Player Online Raid Instances. I imagine there is a market for such games. And they'd certainly be easier and more cost efficient to develop. But To me, that would be a whole new fork of the genre.

 

My thoughts would be to bring the 2 play styles together but keep the player experience consistent throughout the game.

 

Take a look at :

 Should attaining max level be a given?

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 20168

3/12/14 12:14:14 PM#127
Originally posted by bcbully
All you people who think mmorpgs need questing, try EVE and Wushu today. Both are free to try. Both will change your understanding in a profound way.

Wushu is boring to me. Too much running around. I won't play it even though it is F2P.

Eve is also boring to me. PvE combat is easy mode meh.

 

  Cecropia

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Poacher killer.

3/12/14 1:35:10 PM#128
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by bcbully
All you people who think mmorpgs need questing, try EVE and Wushu today. Both are free to try. Both will change your understanding in a profound way.

Wushu is boring to me. Too much running around. I won't play it even though it is F2P.

Eve is also boring to me. PvE combat is easy mode meh.

 

You only skimmed the surface of PVE in EVE. You never made it to any content that would even be considered slightly difficult.

This has been explained to you several times already.

Until the next time, I guess...

"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

  nariusseldon

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3/12/14 3:27:50 PM#129
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by bcbully
All you people who think mmorpgs need questing, try EVE and Wushu today. Both are free to try. Both will change your understanding in a profound way.

Wushu is boring to me. Too much running around. I won't play it even though it is F2P.

Eve is also boring to me. PvE combat is easy mode meh.

 

You only skimmed the surface of PVE in EVE. You never made it to any content that would even be considered slightly difficult.

This has been explained to you several times already.

Until the next time, I guess...

So? If a game has a boring front part .. i will pass. If it make you feel better .... the front part of eve pve is boring, and easy-mode, and i have no intention to play a boring part of a game to get to a better part (if it exists at all).

 

  someforumguy

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3/12/14 3:46:29 PM#130
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by bcbully
All you people who think mmorpgs need questing, try EVE and Wushu today. Both are free to try. Both will change your understanding in a profound way.

Wushu is boring to me. Too much running around. I won't play it even though it is F2P.

Eve is also boring to me. PvE combat is easy mode meh.

 

You only skimmed the surface of PVE in EVE. You never made it to any content that would even be considered slightly difficult.

This has been explained to you several times already.

Until the next time, I guess...

I liked EVE when I played it, but I kind of agree with the person you quoted. If you are not interested in PVP in EVE, then there is not much left. PVE is very repetitive. I really liked the exploration in EVE using probes to scan, it felt like treasure hunting. But if I would only play in high sec, it would become boring very fast. Also the PVE random missions, they are at the most comparible to AO's mission terminals. Not really the main course of the game imo. In my eyes PVP and the politics surrounding it is the main thing in EVE.

  nariusseldon

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3/12/14 5:16:05 PM#131
Originally posted by someforumguy
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by bcbully
All you people who think mmorpgs need questing, try EVE and Wushu today. Both are free to try. Both will change your understanding in a profound way.

Wushu is boring to me. Too much running around. I won't play it even though it is F2P.

Eve is also boring to me. PvE combat is easy mode meh.

 

You only skimmed the surface of PVE in EVE. You never made it to any content that would even be considered slightly difficult.

This has been explained to you several times already.

Until the next time, I guess...

I liked EVE when I played it, but I kind of agree with the person you quoted. If you are not interested in PVP in EVE, then there is not much left. PVE is very repetitive. I really liked the exploration in EVE using probes to scan, it felt like treasure hunting. But if I would only play in high sec, it would become boring very fast. Also the PVE random missions, they are at the most comparible to AO's mission terminals. Not really the main course of the game imo. In my eyes PVP and the politics surrounding it is the main thing in EVE.

That is certainly true. I do not know why Eve would take the trouble to put in pve missions. Those are laughable, even at WoW standards.

There are few missions, and you start to repeat the exact same mission quickly. Combat is boring.

  sempiternal

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3/12/14 7:47:57 PM#132
Originally posted by vanderghast

I really don't get how aimlessly wandering around a world is gameplay?  Seriously, take out the things you say you hate and you'd have the most pointless game ever created.  No quests, no levels, can go anywhere you want upon logging in..........Why would anyone even play that?

@OP Ultima Online sucks! That game was awesome when it was released, but Electronic Arts has thoroughly neglected and destroyed it.

@vanderghast Are you kidding? The very best games don't have level, quest, and npc grinds! Those are for people with no imagination or sense of adventure. Sandbox games are the best.

Tired of MMO grinds, try DayZ Epoch with me. No levels, no quests, everyone restarts equal when they die, and the very latest in realistic military weapons are at your disposal. I'm having a blast. And, there's no monthly fee. Never have I had so much fun playing a game for only $6 total.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/407436/DayZ-Epoch-is-Epic.html

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