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  pekshmaer

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Joined: 12/12/08
Posts: 61

hmmm

 
OP  3/09/14 12:38:01 PM#21
OK, you all talk about massive PvP over 200 players at same time ..Why waste time with PVE. Planetside 2 is for you than and there are much better and smoother character movement. Strafe Left/Right + Sprint in ESO is like from some low budget game. When you spend a lot of money on marketing and other staffs , invest some more in game engine and server.

hmm

  Wizardry

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Joined: 8/27/04
Posts: 7481

Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

3/09/14 1:02:22 PM#22
Originally posted by pekshmaer
Any words from devs. about fixing character animation? Movement is so stiffly, no smooth animation. I think it will be big problem for many players. Look at Skyrim ,how character has fluid movement's.

No Skyrim does not have anything good in animations either.it was one of the early turn offs for me,so much bragging but the game still looked like it was using old Bethesda software/code and same lazy animations with not enough effort put into them,.It does take some work to make all those animations,my guess is the guys doing it were always under pressure to get it done FAST and not with HQ.

There is of course a fine line between super great HQ animations and low end ones,the frame rates and gpu/cpu lag.If for example you made models with tons of vertices and 150 frames of animation there is no way that would go off too smoothly,game play would be slowed down big time.

So in saying that,i think you just need to look at them and decide if good enough when compared to other games doing it better.IMO FFXI was always spot on with their animations and that is a 11 year old game made for the PS2.As i said there is always trade offs,FFXI did not have any lighting/shader effects and the models were very low poly.IMO i would keep models low poly because nobody sees anything aside from the face anyhow and sometimes even that is covered by a helmet.

TESO is just using really cheap animations,there is no arguing the fact,they COULD do better.Are they bad enough to say WHOA i am not playing,geesh of course not but if you asked a professional modeler graphic artist they would grade TESO's work as C minus.

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  SolarRain

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Joined: 7/23/04
Posts: 32

3/09/14 1:18:09 PM#23

I think the reason the the movements look so stiff and odd is because there aren't enough animation frames. The animations themselves look decent enough though. This is also really obvious when you see someone strafing quickly with A and D, and changing between two different animations rapidly, those transitions don't look smooth.

 

With running/sprinting it seems they didn't bother to emphasise the weight of characters as the feet impact the ground, even the heads don't bob very much/if at all. But torso and low body movements also seems to be missing.

 

All in all it's not terrible, but a little more work in the animation dept. adding a few more frames here and there to smooth things out would go a long way.

  Neo_Liberty

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Joined: 11/08/06
Posts: 437

3/09/14 1:45:50 PM#24
looks great to me.

  RebelScum99

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Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 1127

3/09/14 1:55:09 PM#25
The animations are a bit stiff, but honestly, didn't really bother me.  Then again, I also enjoyed the combat, so I may just be crazy.  
  NomadMorlock

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Joined: 12/09/07
Posts: 480

3/09/14 2:03:16 PM#26

I've already seen two sets of patch notes that addressed improvement to animations for various abilities and classes and this is over and above the last two stress test clients used.

 

I really did not see much problem with the animations even in that version, but it's obvious that they are constantly revisiting this.  I'm satisfied with this.

  Mithrandolir

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Joined: 2/28/05
Posts: 1712

Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft' might win, by fearing to attempt

3/09/14 2:05:52 PM#27
Originally posted by RebelScum99
The animations are a bit stiff, but honestly, didn't really bother me.  Then again, I also enjoyed the combat, so I may just be crazy.  

I'm with you. Perhaps we'll end up sharing a padded room someday...

 

  Azzras

Novice Member

Joined: 2/10/14
Posts: 422

One Shot, Two Kills.

3/09/14 2:05:59 PM#28

Comparing Skyrim's animations to ESO's or even comparing GW2's isn't quite fair.

Both Skyrim and GW2 animations were patched, repatched, then patched again.

GW2 animations were shitty when launched  I mean complete crap.  Same with Skyrim.

It's amazing what a patch can fix...

  pekshmaer

Novice Member

Joined: 12/12/08
Posts: 61

hmmm

 
OP  3/09/14 2:38:12 PM#29
Who know's anything about animation ESO characters has basic rig animation. They need to add some steps when character turn around 360 degrees and some bone's. :) They have already low poly characters but come on add  setting option for animation:low/med/high. No point to discuss here some of us cant go deep into topic and devs don't listen :)

hmm

  Azzras

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Joined: 2/10/14
Posts: 422

One Shot, Two Kills.

3/09/14 2:42:12 PM#30
Originally posted by pekshmaer
Who know's anything about animation ESO characters has basic rig animation. They need to add some steps when character turn around 360 degrees and some bone's. :) They have already low poly characters but come on add  setting option for animation:low/med/high. No point to discuss here some of us cant go deep into topic and devs don't listen :)

This comment says it all.  The one thing everyone is saying is that the devs listen. 

Go play GW2, enjoy.  Combat and movement there is still as floaty as ever.  Just patched it up to try it out again today. 

Anyway.....

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  LisaFlexy22

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Joined: 2/10/14
Posts: 427

3/09/14 2:46:26 PM#31
Originally posted by pekshmaer
Any words from devs. about fixing character animation? Movement is so stiffly, no smooth animation. I think it will be big problem for many players. Look at Skyrim ,how character has fluid movement's.

A big problem for petty gamers maybe.  Animation quality adds or takes away nothing towards the overall fun I'm having in a game. 

  alexhpy98721

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Joined: 3/09/10
Posts: 250

3/09/14 2:49:15 PM#32
Originally posted by Preacher26

The run animations are really bad. The sprint "lean" really bothered me.

Not a game breaker but certainly expected better

When i first played in beta i laughed a bit and almost closed the game when i saw that.... i figured that if the basics are that bad the game is not worth trying... but i didn`t and i changed my mind later. 

That animation still sucks tho... but i hear they improved them for this beta... we`ll see.

  mothmar

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Joined: 2/25/14
Posts: 10

3/09/14 3:00:14 PM#33

The animations are one of my biggest gripes with the game, particularly the melee combat animations, as these are what you will be seeing most of the time, and helps combat feel more satisfying. The weapons need to be swung with a little more force, particularly some of the heavier two handed weapons, with a little more time given to the over shoot so they really feel like your swinging a large chunk of metal around.

When characters return back to there combat idle state, it looks really wooden and robotic, although I don't believe this is an animation issue, more to do with the code blending the animation back to the default posture. I understand you need to break out of animations fast so you don't have to sit and watch it finish before acting again, but making it feel more fluid would really make combat feel so much better.

Just needs that final level of polish.

 

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